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Sid Meier's Pirates - Live the life

Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:09 pm

(I realise there's a good chance this won't interest anyone and if it does, mostly older video game fans familiar with the older games, but I thought I'd post it anyway)

Before I was a fan of the NBA Live series...I used to play NBA Jam Tournament Edition. But before that, I discovered a game called Pirates! on the original Nintendo Entertainment System. The basic premise? Assume the role of a pirate captain in the 17th century, sailing around the Carribean capturing ships, plundering towns and getting into plenty of swordfights. Pure swashbuckling fun.

As many pirates or "privateers" did back then, you could gain a Letter of Marque which authorised you to attack ships and towns of a certain nation's enemy. As you picked your nationality when you started the game, by default you would be given your homeland's Letter of Marque, informed of their enemies and given permission to create havoc.

You could visit the Governor in each town and if you had proudly represented your country by interfering with the economy and resources of your enemies, you might get a promotion to a rank in the Royal Navy and eventually, a title of nobility. In each town you could also repair ships, trade with merchants, recruit new crew members or end your voyage by dividing up the plunder. You would also get missions from governors, duel evil nobleman for information on the whereabouts of your long lost family members, acquire old treasure maps and find chests laden with thousands of pieces of gold.

The game was repackaged as a "Gold" edition for the PC, with a few new features and better graphics. Unfortunately, I no longer have the NES version and Pirates! Gold doesn't work for Windows XP. However, last year I read that Pirates! would be making a return for the 21st century. The long wait is finally over and the other day I was able to get my hands on the game.

If it wasn't for NBA Live 2005 or GTA:SA, the new Pirates! would easily be the best game I've bought this year. They're pretty much tied on my list of favourite anti-social free time activities at the moment. ;)

I was amazed at how the classic gameplay remained unspoiled by the upgrades and new graphics. I was afraid that some of the old school gameplay and elements would suffer from making the transition to 21st century video gaming but I was relieved to find that it's the same old game updated for today's technology. There are some brand new elements, but these are either as good as or even better than the original games. All in all, it's a very successful remake.

For those keeping score, Sid Meier is also the creator of the Civilisation series. Pirates! is definitely one of his best games. Gamespot named the original the third best PC game of all-time a couple of years back.
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:24 pm

This game is great, I didn't actually play the original version (I was too young for it then probably). But the new version is simply wonderful, so easy to get into, the first time I played the game I played it for 3 straight hours. The game flows so smoothly, graphics look great (water has some nice reflection effects).

I finished playing the game earlier on today, retiring from pirating at the age of 47, I qualified as a surgeon :), played on rogue difficulty throughout the game (I found the last difficulty level duels a bit hard, rogue is about just right).

What stage of the game are you up to Andrew?
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Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:43 pm

I'm the 5th ranked pirate, an English Duke, French Admiral and Dutch Colonel - as usual, I have no Spanish titles since they've got the best towns to attack. In the original I managed to accumulate 114 pirate points and retired a King's Advisor, so I've still got a fair way to go to match my all-time best in any of the three games.
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:48 pm

One of the first things I did when I had a respectable ship was take out all the other pirates, I found about 5 of them around the same area actually so that helped a lot.

I actually sided with the Spanish, as you get free upgrades and repairs for your ships when you get a higher rank. And as you said the Spanish have a huge amount of cities where you can go whenever your ship is in need of a repair or if you just want to upgrade it.
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Postby Bill Russell on Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:55 pm

Could some blessed soul post pics of this amazing game?
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Postby Andrew on Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:16 pm

Sure Tales - there's some good ones here in the IGN PC Review.

SkipToMy_Lou wrote:I actually sided with the Spanish, as you get free upgrades and repairs for your ships when you get a higher rank. And as you said the Spanish have a huge amount of cities where you can go whenever your ship is in need of a repair or if you just want to upgrade it.


That's true, but once you install a few more English governors around the Spanish Main it evens things up. Besides, the Spanish towns are the best ones to plunder as they're the wealthiest establishments. ;)

By the way, how good are you at dancing? In the old game all you had to do was impress a governor's daughter (or in Pirates! Gold she might be a niece) with your rank and wealth, propose marriage and then fight a duel. I'm still getting used to the expanded courting side game. :)
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Postby J@3 on Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:25 pm

You play a game other than NBA Live!?!?! Blasphemist!

this does sound pretty interesting however
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:29 pm

By the way, how good are you at dancing?


I'm ok, at the start I was shocking stumbled every time :oops:
But as I went on you get more used to it, once you impress the daughters you get quests and items so the dances are worth it.
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Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:44 pm

Yeah I'm starting to get the hang of it, I've been able to acquire a few gifts. My pirate still hasn't found a wife yet though.
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Postby Donatello on Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:47 pm

Jae™ wrote:You play a game other than NBA Live!?!?! Blasphemist!

this does sound pretty interesting however


hm........you're the one who doesn't even own an nba live game, right? :wink:
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Postby J@3 on Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:20 pm

I've done my time.
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:12 pm

My pirate still hasn't found a wife yet though.


Poor bastard :P
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Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:27 pm

I know. He's still got a way to go before he surpasses the original Duke Andrew Begley, fearless English privateer. ;)
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Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:22 pm

I'm pretty much done with my first game now, as my pirate is 40 with failing health. I'm used to the new elements of the game and some of the new tactics I have to use, so I'm sure I'll do better in the next one. As it is, I've got 64 achievement points and could keep going, but in my pirate's current condition sword fighting is getting to be a bit of a struggle (if the opponent gets a couple of blows in) and it's difficult to recruit crew members.

Still loving the game though. (Y)
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Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:28 pm

A second game yielded better results. I still have a chance to defeat Marquis Montalban in my saved game, but as soon as I divide the plunder it will be the end of my career.

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Not bad, my experience with the original certainly helps. I should be able to do better with my next game as some of the newer strategies are becoming second nature now.
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:04 pm

Nice work Andrew (Y)
By the way what difficulty level did you play on?
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Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:20 pm

That second game was on Rogue. I was playing on Journeyman while I got accustomed to the new game. Even though I'm a veteran of the old game, there's still an adjustment to some of the changes. I'll definitely be playing Rogue or Swashbuckler now that I know I can handle the updated gameplay.
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:39 pm

Yeah definetely, I've put this game to rest for now going onto playing XIII which I've had for a while just hadn't got around to playing it.

It's actually a very satisfying game to play XIII, the cutscenes are great the story is a great comic book. Only annoying thing is there is checkpoints, meaning that you can only save the game when their is a checkpoint :cry: . Which is pretty annoying as I found out last night, when I was just near the end of the stage and I fell off a cliff :twisted: .
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Postby Andrew on Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:42 pm

Yeah, I started a new game but by the luck of the draw it started out pretty badly so I've put it aside for the moment to go back to my NBA Live 2005 Dynasty. I'm sure I'll start another career on the high seas before too long though.
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Postby Matthew on Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:21 pm

I got this game yesterday and it is alot of fun. I'm affiliated with the dutch and the spanish hate me. I married the governors daughter today... but i might retire soon and start a new game on a harder level.
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Postby Andreas Dahl on Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:20 pm

Sorry if I’m a bit late with this, but I just got the game and I’m loving it. I got it yesterday and it’s really addicting; I got a little to addicted and lost the track of time, the next thing I knew, the clock was soon to be 4 o clock in the night.
There is one thing that I wonder though, what is the best way of sailing in against wind? I hate that it takes so long to sail when the conditions are like that...
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Postby Andrew on Sat Jan 01, 2005 4:04 pm

The best way is to weave back and forth diagonally against the wind. If you have to sail into the wind (say, in a ship battle), it's best to find an angle to the direction of the wind that will give you some speed, then you can turn back into the wind, where you should be able to make some progress before slowing down again. Keep repeating this to avoid losing too much speed and being being blown backwards.
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Postby Andreas Dahl on Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:33 pm

Alrighty, thanks Andrew (y)
When the wind is with you, are you suppose to just let it go, or are you suppose to do small weaves? I tried that and it seemd to go well, I don't know which is better though.
One more question, is it just me that the wind always blows the same direction for? It's always straight towards west in between 3 and 11... (n)
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Postby Andrew on Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:39 pm

Small weaves work well, but when a strong wind is behind you, you can generally just let it go. And yeah, the wind always blows from the East.
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Postby Jay-Peso on Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:37 am

Andrew, I read a little about this game man and it looks pretty tight.

What are the pros and cons of this game?
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