What takes more skill? Rap or Rock?

[Riot]

What do you guys think takes more skill? Rap or Rock?

Rap-It's hard to spit out all of those words in so little time and you gots to make them rhyme. But then again, what kind of talent and skill does that take?

Rock-You actually have to play an instrument and rock singing is basically the same as rap singing just *sometimes* a little slower.

What do you guys think takes more skill?

[-BHZMAFIA-]

It's not all about spittin rhymes in rap. You have to be very creative to do some of these things, thats why some rappers succeed and some don't. You always have to bring something new and creative. Rappers also make different kinds of beats that makes things even better. It gives people something to dance too. You don't have that type of style in rock because the only thing u can do in rock music is jump up and down nodding your head. Rappers don't use instruments to express themselves, they use creative thinking in their beats. Some of the sounds you would hear in a rap song is something alot of people wouldn't even think about doing because its so creative.

[Riot]

Let's do this jackal style....

It's not all about spittin rhymes in rap. You have to be very creative to do some of these things

As with Rock...actually playing the music is hard too....

thats why some rappers succeed and some don't.

That's why some rockers succeed and some don't...

Rappers also make different kinds of beats that makes things even better.

Rockers make different kind of music and beats to make things even better

It gives people something to dance too. You don't have that type of style in rock because the only thing u can do in rock music is jump up and down nodding your head.

At rap concerts I don't see people dancing...I see them doing the same thing. You can't dance to rock music? I find it easier to dance to rock than rap. You can dance to anything.

Rappers don't use instruments to express themselves, they use creative thinking in their beats.

What the hell does that mean?

Some of the sounds you would hear in a rap song is something alot of people wouldn't even think about doing because its so creative.

Or computer generated?

[J@3]

Rap's boring and repetitive. There's only so many ways you can talk about cars and women before people will wake up and get tired of it.

[Riot]

Rap's boring and repetitive. There's only so many ways you can talk about cars and women before people will wake up and get tired of it.

That is so true.

"I got my hoes in my crib, I got my hoes in my crib and I got my ice on my neck, nigga"

[-BHZMAFIA-]

Rap's boring and repetitive. There's only so many ways you can talk about cars and women before people will wake up and get tired of it.

Well if rap is so boring, then why would so many people want to listen to it. That's the problem with people that don't like rap today, they think all rap is about cars and women and it really isn't...If you just didn't listen to like a song off the radio instead of like listening to a CD of the artist then you would realize that rap isn't all about the same thing. What exactly is rock about then? What do rock people talk about in their music? I can't never hear what they saying except for the chorus because instruments too loud

[Riot]

You can't understand rock but you can understand rap? Do you have the volume on?

[J@3]

I used to listen to rap. I had 30-40 CD's ranging from 2Pac to Trick Daddy, and listening back on it I've discovered it's absolute shit. For every 2 or 3 decent songs that come out there's another 20 or 30 about bullshit.

[Jowe]

Rap's boring and repetitive. There's only so many ways you can talk about cars and women before people will wake up and get tired of it.

Well if rap is so boring, then why would so many people want to listen to it. That's the problem with people that don't like rap today, they think all rap is about cars and women and it really isn't...If you just didn't listen to like a song off the radio instead of like listening to a CD of the artist then you would realize that rap isn't all about the same thing.

its because white teenagers listen to it on the radio, thinking 'yo thats i'm saying dawg, he knows how it is in the ghetto' despite the fact most of them are spoilt boys living in the suburbs.

What exactly is rock about then? What do rock people talk about in their music? I can't never hear what they saying except for the chorus because instruments too loud

You can't be serious. Its quite easy to listen to the words of rock song. Most of them have substance to them, a story, a lesson.

Like Jack Black said : " You haven't been Led'd?! "

[cklitsie]

I had 30-40 CD's ranging from 2Pac to Trick Daddy

i just lost all my respect for you

btw topics like these are useless, cant you guys just understand that not all people like the same kind of music?

[XianeX]

Rap's boring and repetitive. There's only so many ways you can talk about cars and women before people will wake up and get tired of it.

You've obviously been listening to wrongs artists/groups. Try listening to A Tribe Called Quest, Common, Talib Kweli, Rakim, RZA, Wu Tang Clan, etc. then tell me that.

[J@3]

You've obviously been listening to wrongs artists/groups. Try listening to A Tribe Called Quest, Common, Talib Kweli, Rakim, RZA, Wu Tang Clan, etc. then tell me that.

Nice job assuming, I've listened to all of them except Talib Kweli. I stand by what I said.

i just lost all my respect for you

Heh that was an impulse buy, I heard one song that I liked at the time... and soon found out that was the only half decent song he'd ever made.

On another note: Why is everyone a Common fan these days? When I first heard him you never heard anyone other than hardcore rap fans (i.e, no one from these forums) talking about him. Now he's got fans. Strange.

[Jowe]

On another note: Why is everyone a Common fan these days? When I first heard him you never heard anyone other than hardcore rap fans (i.e, no one from these forums) talking about him. Now he's got fans. Strange.

He's pretty big in the suburbs

[Matt]

Common owns cos he's a conscious rapper. Back in the day there wasn't as much rubbish rap but now there is so ppl cling to whatever good is left

[T-wolves]

Rock takes more skill. You have to get a whole band playing together to make a good sound and to also involving singing ( not in all cases). You need people to play instruments very well which is pretty hard. As for Rap its just lyrics rhyming to some crappy beat that repeats it self over and over.

[Matt]

the production side Rock is harder because of live instruments
the actual vocal side i'll go with Rap.

[Stevan]

Rappers have it easy, they just make up words to rhyme with stuff. Fo Sheezy. Rockers mumble. Neither have shit on the likes of Brittney and Hilary Duff, who have somebody else do everything for them while they "sing" the words and do the dance moves. Hard work it is.

[cklitsie]

Rappers have it easy, they just make up words to rhyme with stuff.

if its so easy, let me see you write a rap and post it here
everybody will laugh at you because it turns out to be not so easy as you thought, rhyming is easy but writing a rap isnt just rhyming

[J@3]

Yeah but to be fair, lets see you or any other rap fan on this forum write a decent rock song and post it.

[afroken]

I think rock does because not only do you have to play an insterment you also have to write songs.
They both are hard but rock has the edge.

[cklitsie]

Yeah but to be fair, lets see you or any other rap fan on this forum write a decent rock song and post it.

thats what i hate about such discussions, first a rock-fan says something whats wrong about rap and when a rap fan tells him otherwise, the rock-fan just says: yeah but that goes for rock too

[Riot]

My name is Riot and I'm the shit
Get in my grill and ill give ya fits
Everyone knows my rap sheet
I run from da cops with my quick feet
I got ice on my neck and rocks in my ears
When I look in you're eyes I strike fear
I like the women who screw for cash
I got lots of shit in my big stash
It's all legal though when I got the cash
If they raid my house I throw it in the trash
Cops can't bust me because I'm fast
Don't look now because it's all in the PAST.

[XianeX]

You've obviously been listening to wrongs artists/groups. Try listening to A Tribe Called Quest, Common, Talib Kweli, Rakim, RZA, Wu Tang Clan, etc. then tell me that.

Nice job assuming, I've listened to all of them except Talib Kweli. I stand by what I said.

Then, I guess you're just close-minded. I will admit that mainstream, these days are awful and can almost bring tears to my eyes. If you think the only thing those artists (the ones I stated) rap about are money, hoes and bitches then you're as wrong as could be.

[GloveGuy]

Yeah but to be fair, lets see you or any other rap fan on this forum write a decent rock song and post it.

I'm a fan of both genres(favorite rapper -- 2Pac, favorite band -- U2) and I think that writing a song for either is equally hard. While a lot rock songs require deeper lyrics, containing complex metaphors and similes, it isn't imperative that they rhyme, something required in rap songs.

While many of us can agree that a lot of rap sucks these days, the genre still contains some great lyricists such as Talib Kweli, Eminem, and Nas. In the past, there's been 2Pac, Biggie, Rakim -- lyrical geniuses who possessed great skill in writing songs.

Many of you biased rock fans look at rap only as what it is on the radio -- a bunch of "fo sheezy", "grabbin' my glock nine", and "fuking 9 hoes in the back seat of my Escalade".

There's a lot of rap that sucks. We can all admit that. But there's a lot of rock that is pure garbage too.

[Riot]

My rap could get on the radio, too.