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Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:52 pm
Riot wrote:They all sucked
Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:22 pm
Jackal wrote:Riot wrote:They all sucked
Lol, they sucked? These are classics, I doubt you would know anything about it though.
Black Hawk Down? Oh you mean where they shoot bang bang, one dies...the rest survives, another shoot out, bang bang, one dies, they cries, rest survives..yet again a shootout, bang bang, few die, rest cries, then survives and suddenly thrives in battle?
Yeah.![]()
Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:25 am
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Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:07 am
"We will not leave a fallen man behind"
"Right oh mate, ill be over there, away from those RPGS & AK47's sipping my Diet Pepsi...good luck bro"
Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:50 am
Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:13 am
Riot wrote:I got a hater!!!!!!!!!
Riot wrote:anyways, Black Hawk Down is the best war movie ever.
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:08 am
Jackal wrote:Riot wrote:I got a hater!!!!!!!!!
Eh?Riot wrote:anyways, Black Hawk Down is the best war movie ever.
Eh?
If anyone is interested in an oldie but a goodie, pick up The Guns Of Navarone.
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:13 am
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:38 am
This kid hsn't seen classic movies..let him be,Jackal![]()
Imo 1st one is the best but #3 has Mr.T...can't really decide...
What part was that stupid robot in?
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:49 am
Martin wrote:Jackal wrote:Riot wrote:I got a hater!!!!!!!!!
Eh?Riot wrote:anyways, Black Hawk Down is the best war movie ever.
Eh?
If anyone is interested in an oldie but a goodie, pick up The Guns Of Navarone.
This kid hsn't seen classic movies..let him be,Jackal![]()
Imo 1st one is the best but #3 has Mr.T...can't really decide...
What part was that stupid robot in?
Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:12 am
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Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:34 pm
refuze wrote:Rumor has it that Rocky VI is going to be make. The bad news is that Stallone is old as crap.
Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:59 pm
Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:04 pm
The operation was supposed to take 30 minutes; in fact it took many hours of desperate street-fighting, cost the lives of 18 Americans and more than 1,000 Somalis, and ended in failure.
An antidote, then, to American triumphalism over Afghanistan? No, not at all, because the film is cunningly designed as a tribute to the bravery, loyalty and fighting qualities of the US army.
In a sense, the battle is presented as the 20th century equivalent of the Alamo - a defeat but a glorious one, designed to stir the patriotic fervour of every red-blooded American.
War, it says, is bloody and brutal, but aren't our boys wonderful?
The Pentagon commended director Ridley Scott for rushing the film's release after 9/11. The Motion Picture Association of America arranged a private screening for senior White House advisors. Vice President Dick Cheney attended. So did Contragate criminal Col. Oliver North, as well as a group of U.S. Army Rangers.
"Black Hawk Down" pretends to tell the story of what happened on Oct. 3, 1993, when tens of thousands of Somali people, most of them civilians, fought off an attack by U.S. Rangers and Delta Force commandos in the center of the capital city, Mogadishu.
The heavily armed U.S. troops had come in Humvees and Black Hawk helicopters to try and kidnap Mohamed Farrah Aidid and two of his lieutenants. They intended to take them to a ship anchored off the coast. Aidid was the Somali leader most resistant to U.S. efforts to establish military and economic domination in the area, under the pretext of providing food aid.
The arrogant and racist presence of 28,000 U.S. troops was hated by the Somali people. Sent there originally by George Bush Sr. in December 1992, they had opened machine gun fire on unarmed protesters and flown their helicopters so low over the city that the downdraft pulled the tin roofs off people's houses.
When one of the helicopters sent to capture Aidid crashed near a crowded market and reinforcements were sent in with guns blazing, the Somali people responded in a massive uprising against them.
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The 16-hour battle ended in hundreds of Somali deaths-- helicopter gunships fired indiscriminately on the people in the streets and market. Mark Bowden, in his book on which this film claims to be based, wrote: "The Task Force Ranger commander, Maj. Gen. William F. Garrison, testifying before the Senate, said that if his men had put any more ammunition into the city 'we would have sunk it.' Most soldiers interviewed said that through most of the fight they fired on crowds and eventually at anyone and anything they saw."
U.S. forces with their sophisticated weapons have wreaked death and destruction on many oppressed peoples--most recently in Afghanistan. What made this battle different was that it ended in the deaths of 18 elite U.S. Army Rangers, the Pentagon's biggest battle loss since the Vietnam War. This led to a hasty U.S. withdrawal from the country.
The Somalis were jubilant at having defeated these flying death machines. "Black Hawk Down" was really a Somali people's victory over what had been considered the invincible Rangers and Delta Force.
But the film, in the words of New York Times critic Elvis Mitchell, "converts the Somalis into a pack of snarling dark- skinned beasts ... it reeks of glumly staged racism." (Dec. 28, 2001)
That's what the Pentagon wants U.S. audiences to get out of the film. Racism and fear of Third World peoples are being whipped up here as the Bush administration moves to spread its war of domination in Afghanistan to other Third World countries.