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Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:51 pm

Alot of people feel like they have to go against the grain with this stuff and pretend a person dying doesn't affect them, everyone else is being fake emotionally etc. There's alot of forums where it's happening, not to mention the garbage Germaine Greer came out with.

Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:44 pm

I see where you're comming from when you say its fake, but I think it's more to do with attention seeking and being self centered. By saying that he deserved it, or laughing, it put the focus back on the individual rather then the person who died. It's classless, pathetic and I'm not really suprised the people who say these kinds of comments are also so willing to show sympathy towards terrorists.

It's just unfortunate that people have resorted to stomping on peoples graves for attention.

Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:50 pm

I see where you're comming from when you say its fake, but I think it's more to do with attention seeking and being self centered. By saying that he deserved it, or laughing, it put the focus back on the individual rather then the person who died. It's classless, pathetic


Couldn't have said it better. Thankfully it hasn't happened here, but at alot of other forums it seems to be the trend.

Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:59 pm

I have to say I enjoyed Kevin Rudd's summation.

"I think Germaine Greer should just stick a sock in it," Mr Rudd said in Canberra today.

"You have got a grieving mother, you have got a couple of grieving young kids and a grieving nation and what to you get from Germaine Greer? You get a bucket load of politically correct pap – it's just nonsense.

"Steve Irwin was a nature conservationist, an animal conservationist and made a huge contribution to the preservation of wildlife worldwide.

"And what do we get from Germaine Greer? - some gratuitous, politically correct claptrap. She should put a sock in it," he said.

Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:21 pm

I respect the guy for his work with the animals, but when he put his baby into danger by offering her to the crocodiles just to prove his point, he really made me sick. He should had been put in jail for that.

RIP.

Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:51 pm

Fenix wrote:I respect the guy for his work with the animals, but when he put his baby into danger by offering her to the crocodiles just to prove his point, he really made me sick. He should had been put in jail for that.

I think you're way off base with that call, but it's your opinion so I won't get into it.

Back on topic, it's sad to see such a great, passionate person die. It was a freak accident & from what I've read & saw, he didn't provoke the stingray. I think people were more shocked because they would've thought it anything could take Irwin down, it'd have to be a huge croc or a deadly snake, not a stringray's barb that hit him in one of the few places that would turn the blow into being fatal. The world is a lesser place for having lost him.

RIP.

Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:44 pm

he should be honored with an award or something that makes his name live forever.

it's always sad to go leaving a young family...

R.I.P.

Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:52 pm

http://www.goodbyecrockhunter.com/

Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:36 am

crockhunter?

Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:30 am

It's just as well he didn't get taken down by a croc. I hate to say it this way, but it would be rather messy.

Sometime the video is going to be released, put on Youtube, and have a couple of million views. Sometimes technology is a curse as well as a blessing.

Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:32 am

Sometime the video is going to be released, put on Youtube, and have a couple of million views. Sometimes technology is a curse as well as a blessing.



it's owned by his production company, which is run by his manager and one of his closest friends. hopefully they destroy it. i certainly would never ever want to see it.

Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:34 am

I think I heard that his dad wants the footage destroyed so that's good news

Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:13 am

lpasso.sor wrote:http://www.goodbyecrockhunter.com/


Not sure what the proper abbreviation is, but "crock" sounds insulting whereas "croc" is the more correct term, imo.

Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:27 am

I heard on TV today that it was one of Steve Irwin's last wishes to show people the video.

Personally, I wouldn't watch it.

Also, another thing is that I heard the stingray was basically boxed in by Steve, a camera man and the reef, so it basically had no way to go but backwards and it got scared.

Anyways, he was a great guy and with all the stuff he did he seem invincible to me, so as much of you say it's no surprise, it's definitley a surpirse to me.

RIP

Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:12 pm

-|NN|-[pF]- wrote:I heard on TV today that it was one of Steve Irwin's last wishes to show people the video.


How could it be one of his last wishes if he was killed virtually immediately? He didn't pull out the stingray and screamed, "show everybody this video!!" before collapsing.

I think what the TV meant was he filmed it for a kid's show and that stingray of death was purely accidental. Either that, or the media likes to screw around as usual.

Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:33 pm

He said ages ago if something ever happened to him he doesn't want the camera to stop rolling, I'm guessing they might've interpreted it from that. A very lose interpretation but still.

Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:38 pm

cyanide wrote:
-|NN|-[pF]- wrote:I heard on TV today that it was one of Steve Irwin's last wishes to show people the video.


How could it be one of his last wishes if he was killed virtually immediately? He didn't pull out the stingray and screamed, "show everybody this video!!" before collapsing.

I think what the TV meant was he filmed it for a kid's show and that stingray of death was purely accidental. Either that, or the media likes to screw around as usual.


I'm not sure either, I never said I knew how it was just one of his last wishes, it's just what I heard. For all we know it could be totally false.

Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:57 pm

We all loved you. RIP Steve.

Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:23 pm

cyanide wrote:
-|NN|-[pF]- wrote:I heard on TV today that it was one of Steve Irwin's last wishes to show people the video.


How could it be one of his last wishes if he was killed virtually immediately? He didn't pull out the stingray and screamed, "show everybody this video!!" before collapsing.

I think what the TV meant was he filmed it for a kid's show and that stingray of death was purely accidental. Either that, or the media likes to screw around as usual.

He really did pull out the Stingrays barb that stabbed him though.

Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:46 pm

cyanide wrote:
lpasso.sor wrote:http://www.goodbyecrockhunter.com/


Not sure what the proper abbreviation is, but "crock" sounds insulting whereas "croc" is the more correct term, imo.

Just to point out how people can be dumb. Shit, there's like 100+ pages insulting Steve Irwin. That's just lame.

Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:54 pm

croc is the correct abbreviation.

if he didn't want the camera stopped, i don't see what use the footage is outside of showing everyone. also, he could have said something before he died, seeing as he pulled the barb out, he certainly had time.

Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:27 pm

wasn't he like under water? besides that thing pierced his heart....your not gonna be talkign after that.

Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:45 pm

he pulled it out. is talking that much of a stretch?

Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:28 am

Snakes On A Mazz wrote:He really did pull out the Stingrays barb that stabbed him though.


I know he did, but I was just trying to make a point regarding the "Steve Irwin's last wishes to show people the video" statement.

Matt wrote:wasn't he like under water? besides that thing pierced his heart....your not gonna be talkign after that.


I was just trying to make a point, sorry for the confusion.

Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:36 pm

An article I liked re: Germaine Greer

Inevitably, expat Germaine Greer pulled on her redundant fright mask and charged into print to bitchslap and rake at the dead father of two for his arrogance, his stupidity and his wanton cruelty to those poor dumb beasts ill-equipped by evolution to make a fast enough getaway when they heard the approaching thunder of Irwin's boots.

Professing her deep connection to all the dangerous thingies wrestled into submission by her erstwhile countryman, Greer championed the parrot that had once bitten him and scolded his millions of fans: "Every creature he brandished at the camera was in distress."

For the childless former Celebrity Big Brother contestant, the distress of Irwin's family was nothing when measured against the rightful vengeance of the animal world. Less a harridan than a poorly sketched caricature of a harridan, she would be easy to dismiss as some unwashed and wretched bag lady who had somehow stumbled on to the opinion pages of The Guardian, were it not for the fact this feral hag does actually speak for a significant minority.

Although, to be fair, she probably wouldn't like to think of herself as having anything to do with those three guys at the breakfast buffet, as they were grown men rather than hairless boys, and thus deserving only of her contempt rather than any creepy sexual consideration.

In one poisonous discharge of bile, Greer has condensed the ill feelings of a whole class of Australian sophisticates who found Irwin's cartoon imagery uncomfortable and even humiliating, given his global exposure. Why, oh why, when we are now so very grown up and important, did the world have to fall for this ocker buffoon's man-child routine? And to think of what Barrie Kosky could have done with an hour a day on Animal Planet! Oh the humanity.

Irwin was very much aware of the mixed feelings the inner urban elite had for him, but if it hurt his feelings, he never let it show.

He is well known for enormous sums of money he spent on conservation, but he was also a heavy donator to cultural institutions such as the Queensland Museum.

In the end he knew that he was doing more for the planet than any number of self-styled green activists or sympathisers. Yes, he was a showman, but when he had your attention by slamming a headlock on some recalcitrant man-eater, he wouldn't let you go until you understood just how close to annihilation was so much of the world's wildlife.

Greer and her ilk took umbrage at the fact that Irwin was a fan of John Howard and had even been invited to the Lodge to meet George W. Bush, on the insistence of the US President.

But a few words from the Crocodile Hunter to the most powerful man in the world could have done more to change the Bush administration's environmental policy than any number of rants by a barking maddie such as Greer..
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