if you had to pick...

[Axel]

I have yet to see the appeal of joining the military. Work your ass off so you can risk your life over frivolous combat. But I guess if some people want to sacrifice their life to fight Bush's war that's their perrogative.. but it sure as hell isn't mine.

[Riot]

I have yet to see the appeal of joining the military. Work your ass off so you can risk your life over frivolous combat. But I guess if some people want to sacrifice their life to fight Bush's war that's their perrogative.. but it sure as hell isn't mine.

"To fight Bush's war"? The fight against terrorism is a global cause. The fight in Iraq is being supported by over 35 nations. I wouldn't call it "Bush's war", but whatever floats your boat.

There is a lot of appeal for joining the military, but if you aren't inspired to join then you shouldn't. I don't know about you, but I want people who actually care about the lives of Americans and freedom to join the military. Many people joined the military after 9/11 if they were of proper age because they wanted to get revenge.

In fact, if you were of legal age to join the military after 9/11 and you are you didn't I am quite insulted. Some people are willing to sacrafice their lives so you and millions of others around the world can stay safe and free and most of you guys show no respect to those who do. And you know what pisses me off even more? People who aren't even from or living in America commenting on American armed forces and how they would not want to fight "Bush's war".

[J@3]

And you know what pisses me off even more? People who aren't even from or living in America commenting on American armed forces and how they would not want to fight "Bush's war".

"To fight Bush's war"? The fight against terrorism is a global cause.

[Axel]

In fact, if you were of legal age to join the military after 9/11 and you are you didn't I am quite insulted. Some people are willing to sacrafice their lives so you and millions of others around the world can stay safe and free and most of you guys show no respect to those who do.

I never asked them to 'stand up for my freedoms'. I dont believe you have to engage in warfare to have independence. There are plenty of nations which have avoided war yet have maintained their freedoms.

[Riot]

And you know what pisses me off even more? People who aren't even from or living in America commenting on American armed forces and how they would not want to fight "Bush's war".

"To fight Bush's war"? The fight against terrorism is a global cause.

Notice how I said American armed forces. If they don't want to fight in President Bush's (who is the President of the United States of Ameria) war then the good news is they don't live here so they don't have to. It is a global cause but I'm directly talking about the American influence/push.

And Axel those other independent countries didn't get attacked. America was attacked, your fellow Americans died (moms, dads, brothers, sisters) because someone doesn't like the way we live and for whatever reason some Americans don't find that something to fight for? Something to die for? I find it hard to respect a person who doesn't support the War on Terror. But hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this is a free internet. To each his own.

[Riot]

In fact, if you were of legal age to join the military after 9/11 and you are you didn't I am quite insulted. Some people are willing to sacrafice their lives so you and millions of others around the world can stay safe and free and most of you guys show no respect to those who do.

I never asked them to 'stand up for my freedoms'. I dont believe you have to engage in warfare to have independence. There are plenty of nations which have avoided war yet have maintained their freedoms.

You never asked for them to "stand up for your freedoms"? Are you fucking serious? After 9/11 I think all of us were begging for revenge and if you weren't shame on you. There are plently of nations who have avoided war, however war was brought to us.

I'm sorry, but I am fuming right now. This is my personal opinion and I know you probably don't give a damn but I think you are a coward and a prick.

[cyanide]

I can't believe how ignorant some people are about the military. You can join the Army and be a fucking cook, teacher or pastor.

I wouldn't want to be either a cook, a teacher, or a pastor, working for the US military. I wouldn't want to be affiliated with the US military. I don't support the war, and I wouldn't want to be part of it, simple as that. It's not that I'm a coward, it's just that I find "War on Terror" a crock of shit. I wouldn't do military service, unless it was mandatory, in any country, so it's not just the US military.

[Tuomas]

I've been in the finnish army

man I hate militarism now. the system is so stupid. especially here where it's compulsary. all the sergeants are same age as me and have no war experience, neither do the leutenants or other "bigger" guys, and still they act like the kings of the world. the whole place is ridiculous

[Riot]

It's not that I'm a coward, it's just that I find "War on Terror" a crock of shit. I wouldn't do military service, unless it was mandatory, in any country, so it's not just the US military.

Tell that to the family of someone who lost their life on 9/11 or in another terrorist attack.

[J@3]

Well he could also tell it to the numerous innocent Iraqi's killed by American bombings... there's no wrong or right in this argument. If he doesn't want to join the military he doesn't want to join the military. Your dick doesn't grow any bigger by joining.

[R.J.]

These Canadians probably don't even know the situation. And, I mean, why do they even care? They're not even involved.

[cyanide]

Tell that to the family of someone who lost their life on 9/11 or in another terrorist attack

Or you could tell a family of someone who lost their son/daughter in the Iraq invasion to have their second born son/daughter to join the military.

These Canadians probably don't even know the situation. And, I mean, why do they even care? They're not even involve

Naw, the only situation I know of is to avoid being exposed to a constant stream of militaristic propaganda of encouraging patriotism and avoid pledging allegiance to the ideology of war serving the good of mankind. Since I'm not 'involved,' maybe I should just let you guys do your thing while I go feed my polar bears and hibernate in my igloo, eh?

[Riot]

Cy, not everyone is Cindy Sheenan. Most families know that it was a choice made by thier son or daughter and that most of them believe in the cause. Instead of bitching about the war their son or daughter fought in, and believed in, she should be remembering her son and supporting other families that still have loved ones overseas. Some people expend the energy in the wrong way.

And Jae...the difference is the American bombs were not targeting innocent lives. Our goal is limit the loss of life for civilians and for the most part if we bomb a certain area it is because there is some sort of terrorist activity or personal in that area. America was attacked for our culture more than anything else. That is where I draw the line. Wars happen and sometimes people don't agree but when you target innocent lives by strapping a bomb your innocent child and sending her out to a busy marketplace, I start to get angry.

[cyanide]

Instead of bitching about the war their son or daughter fought in, and believed in, she should be remembering her son and supporting other families that still have loved ones overseas. Some people expend the energy in the wrong way.

I know we have different ideologies, but I think it's just scary for a family to be detached from their loved ones in favor of a love for a country. It's like we're being controlled by the state, which is just reminiscent of Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four.

the difference is the American bombs were not targeting innocent lives. Our goal is limit the loss of life for civilians and for the most part if we bomb a certain area it is because there is some sort of terrorist activity or personal in that area.

How many terrorists did we actually kill? I keep hearing about a substantial number of civilian losses and intelligence reports of a poor job on strategic bombing missions, which was contrary to Rumsfield's so called "smart" bombs/missles.

America was attacked for our culture more than anything else.

In terms of a thriving capitalist economy and freedom of speech, I greatly admire, but as for 'culture,' I have a great disdain for American culture, largely due to their detachment from other worldviews and their emphasis on materialism.

when you target innocent lives by strapping a bomb your innocent child and sending her out to a busy marketplace, I start to get angry.

I get angry too, but this kind of thing you can't ultimately stop.

[Riot]

We have killed a ton of terrorists, I can't tell you how many we killed in every air raid because I simply do not know.

That's ok that you don't like the American culture, but would you hijack a plane and fly it into a building because of that?

It is something we can stop and it is something we must stop. If they don't stop on their own they will get killed. Bottom line.

[cyanide]

That's ok that you don't like the American culture, but would you hijack a plane and fly it into a building because of that?

I'd like to briefly note that I'm not too fond of several aspects of Canadian culture either, since we're largely influenced by the States, so I'm not just singling out the States... as for the plane crash, no, I wouldn't, but there's political motivations behind that attempt as well.

It is something we can stop and it is something we must stop. If they don't stop on their own they will get killed. Bottom line.

Honestly, I don't believe it can be stopped. It's like the theory of Communism. It works in theory, but it can't be done in practice. Stopping terrorism can't be done in practice. Killings can't be stopped, violence can't be stopped, and sadly, wars can't be stopped.