Look how much money has usa spend on iraq war

[iKe7in]

Dear America, as a proud Canadian, I'm sorry for the lack of support we have shown through these difficult times. I think this says it all.

An Apology to Americans
From This Hour has 22 Minutes
By Reporter 'Anthony St. George' (Performed by Colin Mochrie)

Hello. I'm Anthony St. George on location here in Washington.

On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like to offer an apology to the United States of America. We haven't been getting along very well recently and for that, I am truly sorry. I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron. He is a moron, but it wasn't nice of us to point it out. If it's any consolation, the fact that he's a moron shouldn't reflect poorly on the people of America. After all, it's not like you actually elected him.

I'm sorry about our softwood lumber. Just because we have more trees than you, doesn't give us the right to sell you lumber that's cheaper and better than your own. It would be like if, well, say you had ten times the television audeince we did and you flood our market with great shows, cheaper than we could produce. I know you'd never do that.

I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. In our defence I guess our excuse would be that our team was much, much, much, much better than yours. As word of apology, please accept all of our NHL teams which, one by one, are going out of business and moving to your fine country.

I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against a crazed dictator, you want to have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons.

I'm sorry we burnt down your White House during the War of 1812. I see you've rebuilt it! It's very nice.

I'm sorry for Alan Thicke, Shania Twain, Celine Dion, Loverboy, that song from Seriff that ends with a really high-pitched long note. Your beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer, but we feel your pain.

And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we're constantly apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way which is really a thinly veiled criticism. I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this. Because we've seen what you do to countries you get upset with.

For 22 minutes, I'm Anthony St. George, and I'm sorry.

[Matthew]

He forgot "we're sorry you have the balls to step up and help other countries, we're sorry we dont complain and put down other countries to try and make ourselves look better, and we're sorry NLSC that Kevin is a part of your team".

Now that would be a good apology.

[Jackal]

all of the united states presidents have a history of being imperialist and colonialist. the country was built on the foundation of lies and greed, and it continues down that road.

If that's what a nation needs to be as big and successfull as the US, every damn president should implement it. That greed it the beating heart of the US. That's the reason hundreds of millions of people rushed to the US when the economy was stronger than at the moment, it's that greed that has led the world, now you bitch? Why? Because it's done something to help but you view it as a rush for oil? So what if it is? It's greedy you say? The US is selfish you say? Shit, forget about all the times the US have stepped into help other countries, so what if it was in their benefit? That's the way the world works, you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours, can't accept that? Then that's your tough luck.

Don't you dare bitch about how the US is so "greedy" & how it continues down the road, now everyones jumping ship and is all for the European Union, pff...go the hell ahead.

That's all people can do, first they are leeches, they suck everything they see dry, use all the resources, when it seems to be going a bit shakily everyone bitches & whines, throws hissy fits and shit like that. When it starts to improve they said they had all the faith in the world, then they commence to suck again.

Yeah, I'm an american, yeah I'm biased, so what?

Kevin, from the bottom of my shallow heart, you can go fuck yourself with that article. Enough US bashing, suddenly everyones against the US, all of you just go eat shit & die.

*sigh* Thank you for letting me rant, attack away as you wish. I've said my piece. Back to normal now...

[cyanide]

Jackal, I respect your opinions, but I still gotta comment

If that's what a nation needs to be as big and successfull as the US, every damn president should implement it. That greed it the beating heart of the US. That's the reason hundreds of millions of people rushed to the US when the economy was stronger than at the moment, it's that greed that has led the world, now you bitch? Why?

Greed is destructive.

That's all people can do, first they are leeches, they suck everything they see dry, use all the resources, when it seems to be going a bit shakily everyone bitches & whines, throws hissy fits and shit like that. When it starts to improve they said they had all the faith in the world, then they commence to suck again.

You're talking about the US, right?

*sigh* Thank you for letting me rant

You're welcome Thanks for hearing me out

[Ataraxia]

I think when ppl talk abt the US their regarded as the WORLD.....so when they mess up somewhere everyone thinks bad cause they all expect the US to be an example to all dwarf nations...

I love the US, but its President Bush that made a mistake....not the whole US....theirs soooo many good ppl there but sadly when the leader of a country is bad, the ppl of that nation r see as bad/corrupt/greedy/racist etc....

we got labelled as a anti-tamil nation for a long time till our current president came in....now shes brought in a helluva alotta corruption but still she changed the opinion of ppl and banned the LTTE and got them labelled as a terrorist organisation(which they r cause they slaughter anyone and everyone regardless of religion or race if their against them).....because if it went on we would have been thought to have a situation as bad as the white-black issue.

[Jackal]

Greed is what drives us. It's that greed that gives you motivation to go to school/work etc, that same exact greed. Pass the boundries and it can be destructive, I'll give you that much. I don't think the US has surpassed the greed boundry, depends on person to person I suppose.

No, I'm talking about the millions of immigrants that profitted from the US. I'm talking about every person in every country that bought something from the US. People use American stuff daily and yet they complain about how bad US is. If the US hadn't done what they've done all these years the market would have a lot less to offer. We'd have alot less variety. The Dollar wasn't the leader in currency for no reason.

[Ataraxia]

dude the US is full of immigrants....no one is actually from the US.....their roots are from some other country......

American Indians were the real ppl of the US........so I dont see why your complaining abt immigrants because u or your parents or your great grand parents were immigrants too........

by the way the US imports stuff too....not like they have every single thing there....

but again your Jackal, the dude that doesnt give a fuck although he argues and seems to have anger towards certain things.

[Jackal]

I didn't mean to go so far with the imigrants thing, you know what I meant. When it was booming there was a flock of people to the States.

by the way the US imports stuff too....not like they have every single thing there....

That wasn't the point, I never said that US doesn't import stuff. But think back to when you were like 11 or 12 (unless you still are, then I apologise think back 5-6 years back) and think, weren't you all up for that cool super water pistol soaker thingy they sold in Orlando? Yay!

but again your Jackal, the dude that doesnt give a fuck although he argues and seems to have anger towards certain things.

I forsee wrath on all those who see me as that person.

I'm NOT angry people, I just speak this way, let me repeat it, I AM NOT ANGRY, why does everyone think I'm angry? If people don't stop thinking I'm angry, I'm gonna get real angry, I'm gonna get so angry I'll tell Tales to pull out his spoon. "OOh, not the spoon" you say, hah, wrath be upon you foolish souls that think I'm ANGRY! x gazillion.

I'm not angry, really, I'm not, I just come off that way since I'm..anyways, shut the fuck up.

What were we talking about again?

[Ataraxia]

all my toys r made in Taiwan or some other asia pacific country....no US toys

and im 17

[iKe7in]

You guys need to learn how to take a joke, and Matt, you can drop the whole patching team thing now, its done. The "article" never criticized Americans, just your leaders, particularly the one you never elected in the first place, until recently.

I don't dislike the U.S., but in light of recent events, you have to expect that some of the political actions taken have to be questioned. I praise every one of the soldiers overseas fighting for Iraq's freedom. All I hope is that when their government has been installed and order is somewhat restored, that the army will return home and will not try to run their country for them., because that's still not freedom.

If Iraq can remain a free nation without war, then I will commend Bush on a job well done, because it's a difficult task that has been tried several times and has been unsuccessful. I still think that it is something that cannot be acheived though, no matter the sacrifice. The way of life in the Middle East seems to be that you live in constant fear for your life, and everyone is out to get you. I think there will always be a sense of "I have to fight to defend myself day-in, day-out, and no one can be trusted." The violent nature of the history of the Middle East tells me that even when "order" is restred in Iraq and the new government is in power, that it will be quickly overthrown, and the U.S. will have to step in once again.

[Indy]

jackal, so you are saying that the US can be as greedy as it wants, fuck the rest of the world as long as im well off?

well i think thats bullshit, americans arent special, were no better people then the rest of the world, africans, europeans, asians, there not below us they are no inferior.

[Matthew]

I never mentioned the "whole patching team thing now", and I'm not american. I'm Australian.

[iKe7in]

You mentioned me being part of NLSC in a negative way, I know you didn't use the phrase patching team, and I don't think anyone said you were American.

[Jackal]

jackal, so you are saying that the US can be as greedy as it wants, fuck the rest of the world as long as im well off?

What's with you people? Where the hell did I say that? Don't you get that the US economy is one of the biggest factor in the world's economy being stable? If they are being greedy and something positive is coming out of it, why not be greedy? Is the economy crumbling because of the corporate greed? No. If US's economy remains strong, so does the rest of the worlds. Where the hell did you see me say fuck the rest of the world?

well i think thats bullshit

I'm glad you think a statement I never made is bullshit, if that's what gives you kicks, so be it.

americans arent special, were no better people then the rest of the world, africans, europeans, asians, there not below us they are no inferior.

Again, do you have a PhD in pulling statements right out of your ass? This one stinks almost as much as the last one, where the hell did I say we're better than anyone? Dude, give me a break, I've lived in so many different countries with such drastic differences in their cultures that it's a joke for you to say I consider myself better than any other nationality.

Again, I respect you saying whatever it is you feel the need to say but atleast address issues I said. Don't just fabricate shit and make them my words.

Kevin, you suggest we get a sense of humor, frankly I'm not interested in your Canadian style of humor. Cam is Canadian and I appreciate his humor, yours, I dislike. It's not about not having a sense of humor, it's about not putting up with the endless amount of bashing the US has received. When it comes from a canadian, then it's all bad.

You mentioned me being part of NLSC in a negative way

Had you not given him reason to do so, he would've never made that comment. You are responsible for whatever is dished at you, take it like a man and stop whining.

[Indy]

the united states has an extremely high poverty rate, and jobless person rate.

we outscource a ton of our jobs for cheap labor in order to save money.

the minimum wage should at least be $10.50 per hour, in some states it is $3.50, it hasn't adjusted for inflation since 1960.

yes, our government has a ton of money, but it is at the expense of our citizens and peoples of other countries.

the reason the united states did not help the innocent tutsis getting slayed in rwanda, and the reason that the united states is not helping the people getting murdered in sudan is because it would not be a profitable investment for our government, money is more important then people, should be the motto of our government.

iraq however not only provides the us with oil, it falsley spreads us interest in the middle east.

[Matthew]

You mentioned me being part of NLSC in a negative way, I know you didn't use the phrase patching team,

I never brought that up in your thread. WHat have you done for nlsc so far other than bitch and whine and make yourself look like a tool? Thats what I thought.

and I don't think anyone said you were American.

and Matt, you can drop the whole patching team thing now, its done. The "article" never criticized Americans, just your leaders, particularly the one you never elected in the first place, until recently.

Lets see you backflip your way out of this one..

[iKe7in]

Where exactly did I bitch and whine. All I do now is spend my time here defending every one of my actions to you. In threads that have nothing to do with my membership here, why must you attack me instead of staying on-topic?

and I don't think anyone said you were American.

and Matt, you can drop the whole patching team thing now, its done. The "article" never criticized Americans, just your leaders, particularly the one you never elected in the first place, until recently.

Lets see you backflip your way out of this one..

It's two different sentences. I meant your in the sense of Americans, not just you and Jackal. That's what putting a period at the end of a sentence does. Magically, it can seperate two different ideas. Isn't puncuation cool?

[Ataraxia]

stop trying to be politicians.....

[Wall St. Peon]

If you think Michael Moore's words are gospel, you're an idiot. He brings up good points, but those points are backed by clipped statements that he has edited to support his cause. Why don't you go find the response to that documentary? I believe a senator from Minnesota put it together - he was quoted out of context in F. 9/11. I forget the name of it, though...

Moore doesn't let anyone speak against his views and reverts to name calling. He isn't a reliable source of anything; he's a moron who the anti-Bush embraced.

As for Korea, do you really think it would be a good idea, logistically, to invade the country with the fourth largest military in the world? Would it be a good idea to invade a country that has nuclear weapons? Hmmm....no. You do negotions, try to get treaties, etc. Which is exactly what you're doing.

Now, Sadaam is a threat to his own people. He's killed far more Iraqis than the US has or will. While the US did back Sadaam back in the day, we were also at "war" with the Soviet Union - the remaining countries are now allies. Alliances change. Sadaam hadn't killed all those people back then, as he was just in power.

OK, Saddam has been hated for a long, long time by nearly everyone. He turned away UN weapons inspectors on a consistant basis and had trade embargos (that, granted, hurt the Iraqi people far more than it did him - he could still get everything he wanted) against him for how many years? The US was in the area, constantly keeping an eye on him. Then there's bin Laden, in Afghanistan. The proximity of Afghanistan to Iraq makes it convenient and more efficient for the US to attack Iraq. The troops are there, for the most part. The plans have probably been around for a while (which is why some of them didn't work so well - outdated). Israel is right there to help, plus the Saudis. Who do we have to help us in Asian? Not China, not Russian, probably not Japan.

So family guy came on and I lost my train of thought...

[Matt]

watch China become the world power in about 30 years time.

[RamonRamirez.]

No,in 30 years it's still USA. Ask from Riot if you don't believe me

[Wall St. Peon]

You guys are idiots...China IS a world power... Not economically so much, but for all intensive purposes, they are.

And I highly doubt the US will fall in 30 years...it'd take a lot longer than that. Besides, if that happened, the world economy would fail.

[cyanide]

You guys are idiots...China IS a world power... .

I think he means superpower, rather.

And who are the other guys?

[Ataraxia]

I think Global Warming will kill the earth, not economic collapse....

[Jackal]

Besides, if that happened, the world economy would fail.

You're talking to a brick wall in that aspect.