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Postby Yessie on Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:58 am

When you become a Face in WWE you have to feel the wrath of Vincent Kennedy McMahon he will be the top Heel forever. :mrgreen:

i watch Raw last night and well Kane finally went Physcho to promote his new movie and choke slammed the Big show.
HHH And Cena beat Edge while still being able to kick each others ass in the process. after watching Cena cut his promo at the start of the show i feel the time for the Cena turn is getting Closer. and out of all 3 i think HHH is ready to turn Face. i Cant see Edge turn face anytime soon unless he gets the leaving shit kicked out of him by both Cena and HHH. HHH seems like the right choice Heel or Face HHH has always been a fan favorite. King of Kings will take the title from Cena at the right time. i doubt it will happen at Backlash. 8-)
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Postby Drex on Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:15 am

Andrew has a point though. Batista's "carry-able" especially when pitted with guys like Triple H and Kurt Angle.

I used to hate Angle (because I was more interested in the face pwnz heel thing), but he can carry any wrestler. Even Mark Henry. Kurt Angle is a great wrestler, IMO (Y)
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Postby Yessie on Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:45 am

Drex wrote:
Andrew has a point though. Batista's "carry-able" especially when pitted with guys like Triple H and Kurt Angle.

I used to hate Angle (because I was more interested in the face pwnz heel thing), but he can carry any wrestler. Even Mark Henry. Kurt Angle is a great wrestler, IMO (Y)


yup i use to hate Angle too. i started rooting for him whlie he was on Raw and it was good to see him moved to smackdown as the champ. Angle is the top Wrestler in WWE andi strees the word Wrestler.
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Postby shadowgrin on Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:16 am

One of my favorites, Chris Benoit, comes to mind if you're talking about top wrestlers

Lashley is starting to annoy me. He has the strength and amateur wrestling background but he limits himself to playing the "strongman" wrestler. He is strong, but he should also showcase his mat skills. A big strong guy with technical skills like Angle or Benoit would be great to watch but he seems contended with his present "strongman" moves.
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Postby Andrew on Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:56 am

Yessie wrote:i watch Raw last night and well Kane finally went Physcho to promote his new movie and choke slammed the Big show.
HHH And Cena beat Edge while still being able to kick each others ass in the process. after watching Cena cut his promo at the start of the show i feel the time for the Cena turn is getting Closer. and out of all 3 i think HHH is ready to turn Face. i Cant see Edge turn face anytime soon unless he gets the leaving shit kicked out of him by both Cena and HHH. HHH seems like the right choice Heel or Face HHH has always been a fan favorite. King of Kings will take the title from Cena at the right time. i doubt it will happen at Backlash. 8-)


HHH has been very effective as a face before but he's been the top heel for a long time now. It's probably about time to try another face run though. I really thought they should've tried for the double turn at WM22, the momentum was there. With the whole Matt Hardy/Amy Dumas/Adam Copeland situation in real life, it's going to be hard to turn Edge (or Lita for that matter) face again, I definitely agree there.

Drex wrote:I used to hate Angle (because I was more interested in the face pwnz heel thing), but he can carry any wrestler. Even Mark Henry. Kurt Angle is a great wrestler, IMO


He can do an OK job with Henry, but that still shows just how great he is; Mark Henry is just that bad. It doesn't matter who you put him up against. Put him in a program with Angle, HBK, Benoit, it's not going to matter. Even if you could put him against Bret Hart in his prime, Henry would probably find a way to make it lacklustre.

shadowgrin wrote:Lashley is starting to annoy me. He has the strength and amateur wrestling background but he limits himself to playing the "strongman" wrestler. He is strong, but he should also showcase his mat skills. A big strong guy with technical skills like Angle or Benoit would be great to watch but he seems contended with his present "strongman" moves.


Agreed, that would make him a lot better. Someone also needs to work with him on his character and promo skills. The fact they've all but abandoned the stables concept means it's harder for people with potential like Lashley to get over. He really needs to be part of a stable or at least a tag team to draw attention away from his weaknesses while he continues to improve them, then once he's ready break him away and push him in singles competition.
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Postby koberulz on Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:46 pm

it was weird watching his first promo (royal rumble acceptance), he's so big tough and strong in-ring, yet has such a soft voice.
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Postby Andrew on Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:50 pm

That needn't be a handicap though. Develop his character and his promo skills and have him take full advantage of his amateur wrestling experience for his in-ring arsenal and he should have a bright future.

Good promo on the latest RAW with Cena, HHH and Edge. Cena didn't do too bad a job getting the crowd on his side, but I'm not sure this approach will work in the long run. Perhaps it will work long enough to have him suddenly turn. HHH was playing to the crowd a bit too much, which he should be doing if he's supposed to be the heel. Edge on the other hand was quite effective in the heel role.
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Postby koberulz on Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:10 pm

didnt watch much of raw, ill catch it on saturday, but i did watch that promo. and the women's title match (had the audio on in the lounge while in here on nlsc....cause ihave nothing better to do)....just goes to show how good that angle is. normally i avoid womens matches like the plague.

anyway, back on the sub-topic (sort of)...has anyone else noticed that the heels seem to be trying really hard to out-heel cena? rather than having cena as a face, they're just having him as the lesser heel. at least that's the vibe im getting after the last two weeks' opening promos.
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Postby Andrew on Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:20 pm

I think that's all they can do at the moment. Well there is another option that we keep mentioning but the WWE seems intent on avoiding it.
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Postby koberulz on Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:46 am

but even if they're going to keep him face (which is stupid), surely you could have him act as a face and the others act as heels, rather than cena not really acting as either, and for all the facing that cena would normally do, edge and trips have to do extra heeling. so it ends up looking like they're trying to make everyone hate them. which they are, but it shouldn't appear that way. t just looks like they're going out of their way to be hated, while saying that they don't care what fans think. obviously, though, they do. but yeah, they really need to turn cena. backlash at the absolute latest. some smartass comment about the "god" matchup maybe?


Which is another retarded little angle. all these thunderclaps and lightning bolts and all that crap, its stupid. it just makes it look really fake. apart from the fact that the entire angle just makes a mockery of God, it would be somewhat better if there were no signs from God, Satan (other than his earthly persona in mr mcmahon), or any other heavenly (or hellly (if thats a word)) being.
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Postby Andrew on Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:52 am

Yeah that's another angle they don't need to be doing. I'm not personally offended by it but...well...it just doesn't need to be done. At the very least, it's a sloppy attempt to be controversial for the sake of being controversial. Something they do a lot these days.

But as far as Cena acting like a face, I don't know if they can do that. At least not a traditional face. We've seen him play to the crowd with the whole "Chain Gang" idea and he's been pushed as a man of the people and all that and people don't want that. It's very early 90s and by the mid 90s anti-culture and anti-hero worship had grown. Faces like Austin and The Rock often behaved as heels traditionally would. You've still got the clean cut heels but a character like Cena's does require some heelish tendencies.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:48 pm

From Rajah's:

Jim Ross is working with WWE semi-full time as the executive produced for the RAW announce team. Vince McMahon is unhappy with the announce team and feels that Ross will be able to help turn things around. He will occasionally do some announcing and interviews throughout the year. Ross is scheduled to do an interview with Chavo Guerrero on next weeks RAW.


Kind of makes you wonder why he thought going in a new direction with the announce team would be a good idea in the first place. :roll:
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Postby J@3 on Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:10 am

I see Dalip Singh made his debut, he actually killed a guy in the ring a while back which is always encouraging :?
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Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:20 am

I heard about that. So much for the WWE's concern for safety.
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Postby BZ on Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:20 am

Jae wrote:I see Dalip Singh made his debut, he actually killed a guy in the ring a while back which is always encouraging :?

What actually happened was that Dalip Singh was practicing powerbombs on another wrestling student by the name of Brian Ong when both were training for the APW in Japan. One powerbomb knocked Ong to a concussion, which obviously shows this big oaf can't protect other wrestlers. However, the trainers felt that Ong should suck up to the pain and sent him back in to his eventual death... where Dalip Singh blotched another powerbomb and Ong was knocked to unconscious again. The trainer then decided to leave Ong as he is. After a while some genius thought that they should call for medical assistance to check up on Ong, who by that time was in really bad shape, and by the time he reached the hospital, he was proclaimed dead. In short, Booker T should've made that Boogeyman/Teddy Long arrest clause for Dalip Singh instead.
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Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:35 am

For some reason, this whole brewing feud with the Undertaker brings back bad memories of his matches with the Giant Gonzalez circa 1993...
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Postby Null17 on Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:59 am

At least the Great Khali isn't wearing a stupid suit like Giant Gonzales did :lol:
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Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:08 pm

One small comfort, I guess. ;)
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Postby koberulz on Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:19 pm


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There is no singular, standout reason as to why Randy Orton was suspended. In the past few years, he had been fined often, usually for $5,000 per offense. Despite the fines, he'd often joke about them. The fines have largely been a result of his treatment of women, both in and out of the company. Also, he's used rude, abrasive language to people who didn't deserve it, not to mention that he's displayed antisocial behavior. WWE may want Orton to undergo counseling, to get to the root of his social issues. He may even have to get medical help, if it is necessary.

Johnny Ace was said to be fed up with Orton's rude behavior, as it was said to be getting out of hand. Orton's always displayed erratic behavior, however, it started to really get out of control at the start of the year. Also, the fines weren't sending a message to him. The decision to suspend him was based on an incident that took place at the 3/28 Smackdown tapings in Kansas City, at the Kemper Arena. Orton flagrantly violated a very public company policy. It was a lot more serious than your typical dress code issue, and it had nothing to do with either creative or economic issues. Apparently, whatever he did, was the final straw. Whatever he did, has been done before in the past as a form of protest, however, nobody was so brazen to do it inside of a building with plenty of people potentially witnessing it, including people not employed by the company who happened to be in the building at the time. Orton was informed of the WWE's decision to suspend him after Wrestlemania.

Nobody was defending Johnny Ace's decision to suspend him, including friends of Orton, who would normally not side with Johnny Ace. Although, these same people were surprised that WWE made the news of his suspension so public.

Orton's future in World Wrestling Entertainment will be decided upon in the next few weeks. It is likely that Johnny Ace and Vince McMahon will be discussing Orton's future in the WWE this week, and they may make some sort of decision. It should be noted that the day after Orton was informed of the WWE's decision to suspend him (the 4/4 Smackdown tapings), he seemed very interested in keeping his job.

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Due to a recent fake poster that features RVD and Triple H’s picture on it, speculation has run wild that RVD will cash in his “Money In The Bank” contract at the PPV. Despite contradicting reports, that poster was not issued by WWE and was created by a fan.

There of course is still a chance that RVD could indeed take on someone for the World Heavyweight Championship as initial rumors even before the poster was released indicated that it would be against Triple H. Triple H was originally planned to win the title from John Cena at WrestleMania 22, however, plans were later changed and the decision was made to keep the championship on John Cena. This is not to say that Triple H will not win the title by June, as it is still a possibility.
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Postby Yessie on Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:48 pm

WE all know Triple H is winning the title so he can lose it to RVD. NO MORE CENA PLZ. TURN HIM HEEL ALREADY.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:48 pm

I don't know that, it seems like a huge push for RVD who while being talented hasn't always been popular with management, especially after the IC title fiasco. But surely HHH will be taking the title at some point. I wouldn't be surprised if it's Backlash, though maybe they'll protect Cena by having HHH pin Edge.

There's whispers that Orton won't be back, though I'm sure the WWE would rather invest in counseling and doing what they can to straighten him out so they don't lose out on their investment in him. I'm sure they don't want him going to TNA, at least not without jobbing out and looking completely weak to preserve the idea that the WWE is the top company. That said, it sounds like he really does have an attitude problem, hopefully the suspension can snap him out of it.
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Postby shadowgrin on Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:25 pm

RVD as WWE Champion? Plausible, considering that Mysterio is WHC. It'll be a nice gimmick for WWE even if it's for a short time. If it's profitable is another question.

Isn't Daliph Singh that big prisoner in the movie The Longest Yard which starred Adam Sandler?
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Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:08 am

Yeah, that's him.
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Postby Jugs on Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:10 pm

A week too late but...

NOBODY CHEATS ON MICKIE JAMES *chick kick*
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Postby koberulz on Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:08 pm

:shake: that would be Mick kick.
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