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Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:55 am

Badger wrote:Not caring BP, but I care pelicans... We cant do anything from Turkey, I'm so sad for animals :cry:

and the humans as well. folks are getting sick like crazy down there!

Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:56 am

No shadow. God is not human and therefore the laws that apply to us do not apply to him.

Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:44 am

Oh man I just got...
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Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:28 pm

Last time I came here this thread was about an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:27 pm

puttincomputers wrote:el. you are right this did get off topic, because a certain person decided to bash me... ahem. (no not you el badman) :lol:
one final point on the off topic topic... can you explain why on a hot, muggy day with no wind why after I pray, while mowing, for a breeze that said breeze pops up? this has happened every time i have prayed in such manner. and i have done so numerous times. Can you explain dreams that come true the next day?

Better question. Would you really want to worship a God who gives you a breeze whenever you ask, but ignores far more important prayers? You know, for food, or shelter, or to not be abused, or to be healed, or thousands of other things that people find far more important than breezes. And don't you find it just a little suspicious that the only miracles this God ever performs are things that happen at random anyway? Nothing he's ever done could be construed as a true miracle (not since the days in which the Bible was written, at least).

To quote Tim Minchin:
"I was watching a show the other day...about multiple births. They had this woman on there who had given birth to identical quadruplet girls. She said, 'The doctors told me there was a one in 64 million chance of this happening. It's a miracle!' Except that it's not. Because as we all know, things that have a one in 64 million chance of happening happen all the time. To assume that your one in 64 million chance thing is a miracle is to greatly underestimate the total number of things...that there are. Maths."

Another example along those lines: the lottery. You've got an incredibly slim chance of winning, to the point where to win could be considered a miracle. What you don't think about is that people win all the damn time.

And no, I don't consider myself to be God. I know for a fact that much of the Bible has been proven false, and that there has been nothing to prove the existence of God. Why should I believe He exists purely because a book told me he does? I believe things that have been proven to be true, not things that someone wrote down once. As for this comment:
puttincomputers wrote:To say there is no god requires you to know for a fact that nowhere in the universe there is no higher power and you must ignore any evidence to the contrary.

That's just ridiculous. There is no evidence to the contrary, a fact the religious continue to ignore. If there ever were to be, 99.9% of atheists would immediately believe in whatever God was proven to exist. That's why they're atheists in the first place.

The whole point of faith in a God - and this is spelled out explicitly in the Bible - is to believe despite evidence to prove your faith in Him. The whole point of atheism, at least for most, is that no evidence proves God to exist, countless evidence contradicts the Bible (including other parts of the Bible), and that following from this there is no reason beyond the Bible to believe in a God. If such evidence were presented, I don't think you'd find any atheists who would continue to deny the existence of a God.

its like this.
Atheist: There is no god/higher power. If he is wrong he is in big trouble!
Christian: There is A God. If he is wrong, no harm no foul. Unless he tries to force everyone else to become his brand of "Christianity" through the sword in which case he is not a christian but heretic.

I choose my beliefs based on evidence, not on what gives me the best chance of avoiding eternal suffering. Besides, look at it this way: If there is a God, whose fucked up discriminatory abusive "moral" code I choose to live by, then my life is shit for now, until I die and get eternal happiness. If there isn't a God, but I did that anyway, my life is shit until I die and then that's it. If I believe there isn't a God, I don't have to adhere to to His entirely ridiculous "moral" code, and as such I get to enjoy my life. If there's a God, I burn in hell. If there isn't, I enjoy the only life I have. Of these two, the only life I can be certain of having is the one I'm living now, so I'm going to enjoy it rather than spend it pandering to my abusive imaginary friend in the sky.

FFS, this is a guy who needs to put rainbows in the sky to make sure he remembers to not drown the entire world. Do you really trust him?

Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:31 pm

actually God did miraculously provide for my family after my dad left. I personally know a lady who was at deaths door and due to a miracle did not die after much supplication. My sister is a miracle baby.
Have you ever wondered what might have happened to a person if they did not die/get injured in that manner/time?

Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:34 pm

"I was watching a show the other day...about multiple births. They had this woman on there who had given birth to identical quadruplet girls. She said, 'The doctors told me there was a one in 64 million chance of this happening. It's a miracle!' Except that it's not. Because as we all know, things that have a one in 64 million chance of happening happen all the time. To assume that your one in 64 million chance thing is a miracle is to greatly underestimate the total number of things...that there are. Maths."


I'd like to see these one in 64 million chance things that happen all the time. I can't respect anyone who wears guyliner.

Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:39 pm

puttincomputers wrote:actually God did miraculously provide for my family after my dad left.

How?

I personally know a lady who was at deaths door and due to a miracle did not die after much supplication.

What was she dying of? What happened?

My sister is a miracle baby.

How so?

Have you ever wondered what might have happened to a person if they did not die/get injured in that manner/time?

So children dying of AIDS and starvation is good, because something worse could have happened later? What, they were going to be forced to watch Uwe Boll movies?

Jae wrote:
"I was watching a show the other day...about multiple births. They had this woman on there who had given birth to identical quadruplet girls. She said, 'The doctors told me there was a one in 64 million chance of this happening. It's a miracle!' Except that it's not. Because as we all know, things that have a one in 64 million chance of happening happen all the time. To assume that your one in 64 million chance thing is a miracle is to greatly underestimate the total number of things...that there are. Maths."


I'd like to see these one in 64 million chance things that happen all the time. I can't respect anyone who wears guyliner.

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Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:40 pm

due to a miracle


That's very vague.

Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:41 pm

What does God need with a starship?

Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:38 pm

Bring the Ship closer.

Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:51 pm

I seek proof.

Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:16 pm

God is going to use the gamma rays from the starship to soak up all the oil. Then he'll open his own gas station and sell it at a discount rate. God is smart.

Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:29 pm

And God will turn those oil soaked animals into a new species that are resistant to oil spills.
Creationists wins, evolutionists wins, even economists wins. Everybody wins!
:bowdown: All praise Jaesus! Hallelujah! :bowdown:

Re: Gulf oil/gas gusher

Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:43 pm

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"Wait, I'm confused. So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?"

confirmed. Galveston tar balls not from deepwater horizon

Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:07 pm

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=7546056
Coastal officials in Texas now say that new laboratory tests show most of the tar balls that washed up on Texas shores in the past few days are not from the massive Gulf of Mexico oil spill.




so if they are not from that spill then where are they from?

hmmmmmm...... :wall: :seriouscat:

Re: confirmed. Galveston tar balls not from deepwater horizo

Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:10 pm

It's tar balls made by Galvatron.

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USA government stops capping of well

Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:53 am

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100714/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill
BP's work on capping the Gulf of Mexico gusher was frozen Wednesday after the federal government raised concerns the operation could put damaging pressure on the busted well that could make the leak worse.

An administration official, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the talks with BP, said the government was acting out of "abundance of caution" and didn't want potentially dangerous pressure tests on a tighter containment cap that has been placed over the well to go ahead until BP answers questions about possible risks.

At the same time, BP on its own halted the drilling of two relief wells that are designed to be a more permanent solution to plug the well.

Re: USA government stops capping of well

Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:00 am

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Re: USA government stops capping of well

Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:09 am

yup thats his plan! :lol:

Why BP is Readying a 'Super Weapon' to Avert Escalating Gulf

Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:52 am

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july ... are-ta.php
While the plan would admittedly only be executed if a worst case scenario seemed imminent, some geo-chemists have expressed concerns that detonating a nuke in the Gulf might ignite the methane.
Nuclear bomb
Courtesy: shatterlimits.com

(CHICAGO) - In a desperate attempt to stop a huge area of the Gulf ocean floor from possibly rupturing due to subterranean methane gas (leading to a calamity no human has ever seen) BP has ripped a page from science fiction books.

The giant oil company is now quietly preparing to test a small nuclear device in a frenzied rush against time to quell a cascading catastrophe. If successful they will have the capability to detonate a controlled fusion generated pulse.

While the world watches BP's attempt to contain the oil gusher at the former Deepwater Horizon site, company officials have given the green light on an astounding plan to use what is known as a nuclear EPFCG charge if all else fails.
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Re: http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july122010/gulf-nighm

Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:54 am

this couldnt've gone in your other threads bitching about this?

Re: Why BP is Readying a 'Super Weapon' to Avert Escalating

Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:58 am

those other ones have been hijacked. why not start fresh
oh and by the way. this site is actually a main stream news outlet

Re: Why BP is Readying a 'Super Weapon' to Avert Escalating

Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:09 pm

This isn't going to end well for you.

Oh, and claiming it's "ripped from sci-fi books" is so fucking stupid it discredits the entire article from the start. Nuclear bombs have been used many times to close open oil wells.

And some nobody from Helium.com is not a "main-stream news outlet." And such a thing would never cite Wikipedia as a source.

Re: Why BP is Readying a 'Super Weapon' to Avert Escalating

Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:10 pm

Why didn't they think of this like two months ago?
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