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Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:53 am

PHX4LIFE wrote:My other response to this was:

Another black man got shot, well that sucks. Mom, what's the number for Pizza Hut?


Thanks for that heartwarming sentiment. :roll:

Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:57 am

they would've said the same thing on Comedy Central, i'm sure

Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:58 am

Are you black? I don't think it's your "joke" to tell...

Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:10 pm

look, im one of the blackest people youll ever meet, and i take no offense to that at all. the fact is, its true. so many blacks are shot and killed in the projects i lost all interest in any news like that. besides, i dont think it was the fact that he was black that made him not care, it was the fact that it happens so much, am i right? if not, go fuck yourself.

Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:21 pm

Wankster, you're way too far on one side of the spectrum. Mike, you're too close to the opposite side.

Wankster, don't be a spastic like Jae said. You didn't know Proof so don't get your panties in a bunch.

Mike, yeah it happens a lot. That doesn't make going around saying 'you don't care' without being questioned or provoked allright. If I found out some guy on a forum had a cousin/friend/acquantance in Bedstuy that got shot, I would either say RIP, or just let him be.

Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:27 pm

besides, i dont think it was the fact that he was black that made him not care, it was the fact that it happens so much, am i right?


Right, and I'm fine with him not caring, if that's what he meant. The comment just struck me as fairly broad and encompassing, then alluding to it as comedy material seemed fairly rude. That's just my take though...

Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:33 pm

The G.O.A.T. wrote:look, im one of the blackest people youll ever meet, and i take no offense to that at all. the fact is, its true. so many blacks are shot and killed in the projects i lost all interest in any news like that. besides, i dont think it was the fact that he was black that made him not care, it was the fact that it happens so much, am i right? if not, go fuck yourself.


That doesn't mean it is right. A man died and you don't care because it happens all the time?

Wankster, you are right. They need to start paying more attention to cases like these because these gang related happen far too often here in America.

It really doesn't matter to me if it was Proof or if it was some other guy, it's still extremely sad that his life had to end so shortly. The difference is Proof is in the public eye so it gets headline news, but that doesn't mean the other guys aren't as important. I don't even know who Proof is, honestly, but it's a shame that a young man had to go.

Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:49 pm

Riot wrote:
The G.O.A.T. wrote:look, im one of the blackest people youll ever meet, and i take no offense to that at all. the fact is, its true. so many blacks are shot and killed in the projects i lost all interest in any news like that. besides, i dont think it was the fact that he was black that made him not care, it was the fact that it happens so much, am i right? if not, go fuck yourself.


That doesn't mean it is right. A man died and you don't care because it happens all the time?
Yes. I used to care. I've just seen too many shooting on the street and watched too many people die for it to affect me any more. Unless it's someone close to me or someone close to someone I know, it doesn't make a difference.

Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:54 pm

Proof was like "yo you bugging, i need you to think fast when you with me, think fast....What weighs more a pound of feathers or a pound a dope"

No disrespect meant, but that Proof is funny. :lol:

wankster wrote:But if like George Bush Dies they'll go to every fucking house in the country and wont stop until they find him/her

If that happens, it's expected considering he's the President of the United States. :roll:

Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:23 pm

OH, I thought the topic just says that he got shot but not killed. A sad news for D12 and the fans as well. He was the funniest in the group IMO. The funny thing is, the 'Toy Soldiers' skit came true. Proof was the one to die. RIP Proof. :cry:

Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:53 pm

RIP to him, dont really listen to d12 but oh well

Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:24 pm

I only liked Purple Pills from D-12. RIP for him.

Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:57 pm

Word.
I only like that song to back in the day.
Even though I dislike D12 and their music.
RIP PROOF aka Rasheed Wallace look-a-like.

Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:21 pm

What are rich black people still doing in the projects and why are people wondering why they got shot?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:34 pm

RIP, was pretty suprised to here this cause I thought Proof would be hanging out in a huge ghetto and not some poor excuse for a bar.

The G.O.A.T. - If you dont care about him, why just make disrespectful posts about someone thats died. I know none of us know him and he's not a great MC or even a good one but show some respect for human life, you might be as black as can be and live in the most ghetto neighbourhood out of everyone here but nobody really gives a shit.

Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:02 pm

He was my fav D 12 member, and seemed to be a really nice guy.

RIP, Proof!

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Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:48 pm

D12's song wrote: they say the good die young...


R.I.P. Proof.

Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:33 am

RIP Proof....You'll be greatly missed

Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:38 am

RIP DeShawn :(

Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:02 am

He seemed like a nice guy and even though I didn't pay much attention to D12, he was pretty good. RIP, Proof.

Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:44 am

R.I.P Poof. Err, Proof.

Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:24 pm

RIP, Proof...

I'm thinking that a new song is going to come out... 'Good Die Young, Pt. 2' or something similar.

Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:07 pm

Interesting, turns out he may not have been as innocent as people think:

Police: Proof Fired First

by Josh Grossberg
Apr 12, 2006, 6:00 PM PT

It appears the burden is on Proof.

Authorities in Detroit confirmed today that the D12 rapper instigated a deadly nightclub shooting early Tuesday that left him dead and another man critically injured with a bullet wound to the head.


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The incident occurred at club C.C.C. along Eight Mile--a road immortalized by Proof's longtime pal Eminem in his hit semi-autobiographical film--at approximately 4:30 a.m., after the bar remained open illegally past its regular business hours.

The 32-year-old Proof, whose real name was Deshaun Holton, was rushed to Holy Cross Hospital in a private vehicle, but was pronounced dead on arrival. The second victim, 35-year-old Keith Bender, is still reportedly touch-and-go at St. John Conner Creek Hospital.

According to Detroit police spokesman Sergeant Omar Feliciano, detectives on the scene have determined the hip-hopster was the first to draw a gun and started shooting at Bender after the two got into a heated argument.

Investigators were still trying to sort out who fired the fatal shot that struck Proof in the head, killing him. Police said that a man has turned himself in to police for questioning, but it was not immediately known if he was a suspect. His identity was not revealed.

A previous press report stating Proof was licensed to carry a firearm was false, the police spokesperson added. No other details were made available.

However, reports in the Detroit Free Press and AllHipHop.com shed a bit more light on the incident.

The Free Press says Proof pistol-whipped Bender, a former Army staff sergeant, before firing.

"Proof knocked the dude down and stood over him with gun in hand," a source close to the rapper is quoted by AllHipHop.com. "Proof shot first...Proof was shot four times--twice in the head and twice in the chest/stomach area."

Bender, who was discharged from the Army due to a heart condition, was at the club to celebrate that he no longer needed a defibrillator for a heart condition, his sister-in-law told the Detroit News.


According to police, the venue has racked up 18 incident reports since 1996, including a vice raid in December that netted citations, mostly for underage drinking.

In the wake of Tuesday's slaying, Snoop Dogg has called for unity among the hip-hop faithful.

"He was a part of the hip-hop family," said the Doggfather at the MTV Australia Music Awards. "We can't stop [the violence...but we can] try to be as positive as we can and do good things with our lives. I just know that every time somebody gets killed in hip-hop, we should look at it as a tragedy. There's nothing we can do to stop it as hip-hop artists, but be who we are and continue to make our good music."

Proof played a critical part in Eminem's transformation from budding freestylist who performed at Detroit-area rap battles into a rap superstar. Because of their long history together, Slim Shady considered the rapper his best friend.

"Proof was really the guy who got Eminem to be a rapper," Anthony Bozza, author of the Eminem biography Whatever You Say I Am, told ABC News Radio. "He really keeps only a few close people around him, so losing one of them is going to be completely devastating to him."

Aside from cofounding the Detroit rap collective D12 with Eminem, Proof appeared in several of his friend's music videos, including "The Real Slim Shady," "Without Me" and "Like Toy Soldiers," the last of which featured a scene showing Eminem attending Proof's funeral.

Em also asked his protégé to be his best man at his second wedding in January to ex-wife Kim Mathers, which just flamed last week.

Proof also served as inspiration for Mekhi Pfeiffer's character, Future, in 8 Mile. Proof also had a bit part as Lil' Tic, the wordsmith who smacked down Em in one of the movie's early contests.

After topping the charts with two D12 albums, Devil's Night and D12 World, Proof struck out on his own and released his debut album, Searching for Jerry Garcia, to wide acclaim last summer. He was expected to rejoin D12 in the studio later this month to begin work on their third album.

A rep for D12's record label said plans for a memorial service will be announced very soon.

Proof is survived by five children.

Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:21 am

^^Yeah, just found out Proof shot the dude he was standing over first. Two shots from Proof got him 4 shots. Too bad he had to go, but he definitely brought it upon himself.

Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:21 am

The G.O.A.T. wrote:chances are he did somethin bad enough to get himself shot anyway.
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