Government, Heath, Scott kennedy, Kevin Trudeau, and Life

How does Viagra kill hundreds of people? I haven't heard of a reported death from Viagra yet. If I did , wouldn't the FDA take the drug off the market?

man you are out dated. The FDA what money, I've saying that ever since my first post.

have you watch the news lately. people who takes viagra knows that they is a risk at a heart attck, but the just prefer the thrill over the risk.

http://www.heartinfo.org/ms/news/511203/main.html

Cases of heart attack and stroke in a small number of men who take Viagra have puzzled medical researchers

http://www.viagra-vision-loss.com/?OVRA ... C=standard

Viagra (generic: sildenafil), sold by Pfizer, Inc., was approved by the FDA in 1998. The FDA has 38 reports of the blindness among users of Viagra.

Cialis (generic: tadalafil) sold by Eli Lilly & Co. and Icos Corp., was approved by the FDA in 2003. The Cialis label was recently changed to notify patients of cases of non-arteritic anterior ischemic optic neuropathy. Five million men have been prescribed Cialis worldwide, and the FDA has 4 reports of vision loss as a result of taking Cialis.

Levitra (generic: vardenafil hydrochloride), sold by Bayer Corporation was approved by the FDA in 2003. Federal health officials are investigating rare reports of blindness among men using Levitra. The Food and Drug Administration is aware of 1 report of varying degrees of vision loss, including blindness, as a result of taking Levitra.

Believe me, many people have died from taking drugs. I'm not saying if you take it one time, and it will give you a diease (although it happens) but like I said, there is no diease out there has a cure according to the FDA. so if you're taking a drug for some sort of diease, you are required to take it for the rest of your life....because the diease don't away, you just treat them.

The drugs you take for diabetis. you know what they do? They basically tells your body to stop their natrual insolin making ability, becasue the drugs itself does it for you. so in the future it just sets you up for more problems like cancer.

Holy shit mr funk, you are so fucking stupid...

Fact is docters and drugs are bad for you. Do you know the 100 year old lady who are still living and ARE MORE ACTIVE THAN A KID? Well, if you ask her what make her so healthy, she'll tell you that she DON'T GO TO DOCTERS, DON'T TAKE DRUGS, eat right--which is basically your natural medicine right there, EAT RIGHT--and excerise everyday.

you have one fucking example from billions around the world, who doesnt go to the doctor, and that gets you to the conclusion that ALL people benefit from not going to doctors, not taking medication?? wtf is wrong with you? think of all the people who might never have even been born without drugs, painkillers that allowed the mothers to live through the pain of having children, the DOCTORS that not only helped get the baby out of the mum, but the doctors that saved all the babies with problems that occured in the womb... problems that i would fucking love to see natural medicine cure.

and im sorry, but natural medicine is not excerising and eating right, thats just common fucking sense. if everyone in the world ate healthy and excersised every day, guess what, we would still have viral infections, stds and whatnot - we would have shitloads less of heart problems but im guess that some people are born with bad hearts, they didnt grow a bad heart from taking medication that gave it to them

you say people die from drugs? holy shit no way! whats the bet it was because of allergies, overdosing, or even just taking drugs that werent prescribed to you in the first place?
how bout instead of listening to the FD fucking A and your dumass school who is trying to con all their fucking students into never joining the army, you make up your own mind on the subject, and talk to all the people who have survived cancer because of leukemia treatment... im sure they would just LOVE to hear how bad drugs are for you

all drugs causes dieases(period).

i took some painkillers yesterday, maybe i have cancer

AIDS would be exceptional, since it is not a diease, and there is no cure. And medicine is the only option (even though those drugs still have side effects, but not as bad as dying, so people prefer to live)

aids is a disease, there maybe no cure but medicine and drugs have given us preventions (better than a fucking cure) as well as drugs that can stop some of the effects of aids.

it seems you are paranoid about drugs... why ive got no fucking clue

go watch the episode of southpark where they talk about it... it basically sums up my opinion

South Park on Alternative Medicine

Kyle Broslavski is sick in bed. His mom explains to a neighbor, Sharon, that he is a diabetic and has always had kidney problems but lately they just seem to be shutting down.

Sheila: I don't know what to do Sharon. They want to have him go into surgery! It's so dangerous.
Sharon: Sheila, have you tried holistic natural medicines? They work wonders! I read all about it in People.
Sheila: Really? In People?
Sharon: There's a brand new shop in town that sells holistic medicines and all natural foods. It's run by this fascinating woman named Miss Information.
Sheila: Oh, well, with a name like Miss Information she must know something!

So they take Kyle to the holistic medicine store.

Miss Information: You see, the reason our bodies fail is because of toxins. All the horrible food we eat, the sodas and meat, are filled with toxins; and the only way for us to get better is to flush those toxins out of our system. Western Medicine is so quick to cut and carve up, when all your son needs is a constant flushing diet of lemon juice and cayenne pepper.
Sheila: Did you hear that Kyle? You don't need surgery after all! Kyle: (mumbles incoherently)
Stan (Kyle's friend, Sharon's son): Excuse me, but what do these toxins look like? Have you ever actually seen a toxin?
Sharon: Don't be a smart ass, Stanley!
Miss Information: Ms. Broslavski, I'd like to give your son herbs which focus on the kidneys. I have these excellent herbs from local Native Americans.
Sharon: Ooh! Native Americans. Now they know how to heal the body spiritually!

Next day we see Ms Information make a home visit. Kyle is in bed, stuporous, and a couple of neighbor moms are commenting how terrible he looks.

Miss Information(making a grand entrance): Good Morning everyone!
Sheila: Oh, thanks for coming Miss Information. Kyle seems to be getting worse!

Miss Information walks over to the bed, closes her eyes, and waves her hands over Kyle while humming. She does a two second assessment.

Miss Information: Oh, I don't agree! He seems MUCH better. Sheila: Really?
Miss Information: Yes. His chi is flowing much nicer than yesterday, and his aura is lighter!
Sharon: Oh that's great news!

Kyle suddenly vomits a bucketfull on the floor.

Sheila: Oh no!
Miss Information: No, no, that's GOOD! Those are the toxins flushing out of his system.
Stan: Those aren't toxins, that's the bean with bacon soup he ate a half hour ago!
Sharon: Stanley, what did I say about being a smart ass?
Miss Information: Now don't be fooled as Kyle's body sheds itself of more and more of the toxins. He may appear to be getting worse, but actually he's getting better.
Sheila: Oh! Well, I am SOLD on natural medicines. If only I had known sooner.

There's a great scene in the holistic medicine store where people are now lined up around the block to get in, and the place is crowed with shoppers all excited about finding products like "free range aspirin" and "all natural cell phones." The Native Americans then make their appearance, played by Cheech and Chong. They are obviously latinos, but the crowd believes Miss Information, and C+C play along with the charade. They are immediately mobbed by the crowd, demanding to know if they have any new holistic items for sale. Cheech reaches into a box and pulls out a clothes hanger held together with duct tape.

Cheech: Oh, yeah, ahh ... here! This is a, ahh ... a dream catcher!
Patron: Oh! A dream catcher! I'll buy one of those!
Crowd: Yeah! Me too.
Chong: And these here are Cherokee hair tampons. They're like all natural tampons made from the hair of Cherokee people.
Sharon: Ooo! A tampon made from Cherokee hair. Now that sounds all natural!
Miss Information: native Americans are more in tune with the earth than we are.

Miss Information then suggests that the Native Americans do a healing on Kyle the next day, which they readily agree to do ("Yeah, we'll give him a brain enema or something, man!") Miss Information then leads Sheila over to the cash register to take a deposit for the treatment. Meanwhile, Stan walks in after talking to the town MD. He says the doc told him that the holistic medicines won't work, and that Kyle needs a kidney transplant as soon as possible.

Ms Information: Well, of course the doctor told you that, because HE wants to make MONEY. Holistic medicine is about NATURE! (turning to Sheila) That'll be $233.
Sheila: Everything will be fine, Stan. We're bringing Kyle in to see the Native Americans personally.
Stan: Isn't is possible that these Indians don't know what they're talking about?
Sharon: You watch your mouth Stanley! The Native Americans were raped of their land and resources by white people like us!
Stan: And that has something to do with their medicine because...?
Sharon: ENOUGH Stanley!

Well, you get the picture. They bring Kyle in the next day for the "treatment" and Cheech and Chong see how sick he is, and suggest that, really, he needs to see a doctor. The crowd insists that they must know how to heal him, but then they confess that they are not really Native Americans, but, well, Mexicans, actually. One man spits out the potion he was drinking, and another woman grabs her crotch and screams in horror, most likely having second thoughts about the Cherokee hair tampon. It all ends well, though. Kyle gets his transplant in time, and the angry crowd beats up the owner of the holistic medicine shop.

The best part ever in a discussion where a nut is trying to defend why your pans are aliens but involved in a huge coverup from the american goverment is the facts that they refer to.

Talking to an alien nut? Then the facts will come from sites such as www.aliensexist.com, www.momisanalien.net and www.ohgodthealienisinmypants.org.

If the nut is a 9/11-nut, the facts will be from www.nineelevenisafake.com, www.dontbelievebush.tk.

In this case we have an obviously very lonesome virgin trying to convince himself and the world of viagras inherent evil-ness by linking to www.viagra-vision-loss.com.

Priceless.

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Of course Viagra causes vision loss, didn't your parents teach you anything!?! Sends you bind...

no jae, thats just masturbating...

Well I'm not convinced everyone who uses Viagra has someone to use it on...

Laxation basically just said everything i was about to.

This is the dumbest thing i've ever heard. Yes, eating right and exercising regulary will help you to live longer, but drugs won't give you diseases. Wtf? (Unless we're talking about a scenario where some dude gets drunk, fucks a hooker, and gets STD's).

Holy shit mr funk, you are so fucking stupid...

you have one fucking example from billions around the world, who doesnt go to the doctor, and that gets you to the conclusion that ALL people benefit from not going to doctors, not taking medication?? wtf is wrong with you? think of all the people who might never have even been born without drugs, painkillers that allowed the mothers to live through the pain of having children, the DOCTORS that not only helped get the baby out of the mum, but the doctors that saved all the babies with problems that occured in the womb... problems that i would fucking love to see natural medicine cure.

Let me welcome you to the world! HAVING A BABY IS NOT A DIEASE.

"AND THIS IS A FACT: DRUGS ARE ON THE RISE AND DIEASES ARE ON THE RISE! Anyone see a pathern? Drugs cause dieases, then, we take more drugs, and they make more money." - MR.FUNK

"If you go to the doctors, it means you sick. And in our natural state, we human beings are not suppose to be sick. Our body is built to be youthful. Of course, you can catch a cold, but its not normal.

And yes, you should go to the doctors. But all they'll do is prospribe you drugs; however, they won't teach you how to eat healthy, so to stay healthy. Kevin's book do list you all the doctors who use natural remedees." -mr.funk

Docters that proscribe you drugs, when the only thing you need to do is change your diet, is wrong.

and im sorry, but natural medicine is not excerising and eating right, thats just common fucking sense. if everyone in the world ate healthy and excersised every day, guess what, we would still have viral infections, stds and whatnot - we would have shitloads less of heart problems but im guess that some people are born with bad hearts, they didnt grow a bad heart from taking medication that gave it to them.

I've been saying it for too long....but i've give you a hint...DA V PILL.

you say people die from drugs? holy shit no way! whats the bet it was because of allergies, overdosing, or even just taking drugs that werent prescribed to you in the first place?
how bout instead of listening to the FD fucking A and your dumass school who is trying to con all their fucking students into never joining the army, you make up your own mind on the subject, and talk to all the people who have survived cancer because of leukemia treatment... im sure they would just LOVE to hear how bad drugs are for you

I guess I'm the only one who is sensable enough to know when technology and medecine is getting more advance by the minute, but dieases are going up and up and there IS NO CURE FOR ANYONE OF THEM, there must be something wrong. All what you know is from the goverment, people who want your people money. I ain't just liston alternative thinkers, but I can think for myself.

i took some painkillers yesterday, maybe i have cancer :roll

"If you saw those commercials; what do you hear? This: 'people with this....should not take it......for it may increase your chances of heart diease.....etc.'" - mr.funk

When the drug companies are admmitteing that their drugs causes diease, then I would liston.

"Believe me, many people have died from taking drugs. I'm not saying if you take it one time, and it will give you a diease (although it happens) but like I said, there is no diease out there has a cure according to the FDA. so if you're taking a drug for some sort of diease, you are required to take it for the rest of your life....because the diease don't away, you just treat them. " - mr.funk

aids is a disease, there maybe no cure but medicine and drugs have given us preventions (better than a fucking cure) as well as drugs that can stop some of the effects of aids.

When did HIV and AIDS become a diease?

"Take pills?!??!?!?!? I didn't even say that I'm sick. Even if you don't believe in natural remedees, you shouldn't ask someone to take pills just like that. Either way, you should know that pills have negative side effects, ALL. Pills and surgary should be your last option." - mr.funk

Yes, AIDS is expectional. And the drugs are your only option!







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When you read, keep the information in your brain, and don't let it go in one ear and go the other. so I don't have to quote everything i have already said.

And how everythig is being label as a "diease"

Trudeau claim that "not 99% of the drugs cause diease, but 100%."

He said that they is a "cure for virtually very diease".

does all their reaserch on "treatments" for dieases, which basically "baby sit" your diease

doesn't claim to cure any mature diease

which diease out there have a cure accounting to the FDA?

becasue if dieases are cure

DRUGS ARE ON THE RISE AND DIEASES ARE ON THE RISE!

like I said, all drugs causes dieases(period).

for it may lead to heart diease.....etc."

AIDS would be exceptional, since it is not a diease

since AIDS is not a diease

and it will give you a diease

but like I said, there is no diease out there has a cure according to the FDA.

so if you're taking a drug for some sort of diease, you are required to take it for the rest of your life....because the diease don't away

HAVING A BABY IS NOT A DIEASE.

When the drug companies are admmitteing that their drugs causes diease, then I would liston.

When did HIV and AIDS become a diease?

It's spelt 'Disease' you fucking retard

geez. I'm deeply hurt that i can't spell. But I guess having common sense count as being a retard, since you all are so smart.

I guess being bad at sarcasm is a diease as well that can't be cured.

i think there are cases where the government (any government) legalizes or doesn't legalize certain substances, etc. in order to somewhere down the line make money, but i think its apparent pretty much everywhere. i don't think america is sadistic enough to poison themselves in order to make money off the cure. isn't that the plot of mission impossible or something? key word, impossible. now, obviously there are sideffects to pretty much any drug, but i think its not neccessarily the sideffects that lead to a sickness to another drug, etc., etc.. it could be what we eat, our enviroment, who knows. drugs may just be a way of speeding up our evolution in order to protect ourselves against the sideeffects of technology in general.

joining the us army is good if you can't afford real college. if you can, go to real college. in my opinion, whatever heroism that is derived from being in the army of any country is pure propaganda. war is a neccessity only because we make it so. heroism is joining something like the red cross, heroism is helping people by helping people, not hurting others in order to help them which defeats the purpose. i would never join the armed forces of any country because even though i am only one person, its my belief that everything starts with one person, and by that joining the army you perpetuate the belief that violence is neccessary.

I'd rather buy a pill, take it, and not die than dig up some grass, eat it, and hope for a theoretical chance that I will be magically born again.

I guess being bad at sarcasm is a diease as well that can't be cured.

Funny thing, Lusy was the only other one who said that to me....Lusy my dog. I guss Lusy is pretty smart. I mean, atleast she talk, right?

i think there are cases where the government (any government) legalizes or doesn't legalize certain substances, etc. in order to somewhere down the line make money, but i think its apparent pretty much everywhere. i don't think america is sadistic enough to poison themselves in order to make money off the cure. isn't that the plot of mission impossible or something? key word, impossible. now, obviously there are sideffects to pretty much any drug, but i think its not neccessarily the sideffects that lead to a sickness to another drug, etc., etc.. it could be what we eat, our enviroment, who knows. drugs may just be a way of speeding up our evolution in order to protect ourselves against the sideeffects of technology in general.

The only post that make sense so far. Of course the government don't want to poison people just like that. After all, they are people, not monsters. But the money always comes first. Look at tobacoo, the makers know it causes cancer, and they still sell it and lied to us for 40 years. And the truth finally came of the box, what did our governement do, NOTHING!!!! Why shouldn't tobacoo be ban when the fact is it causes cancer? MONEY! The developers of Viagra knew it causes heart attacks when they put it on the maket. What happen when the goverment found that it actually did causes cancer? NOTHING! Its still on the market.

Of the reasearch that I done. They are one case where they found a cure for Diabetis, its a herd that comes from asia. It was "allegitly" have reported that it kill ONE person. And the goverment use that to ban it from the US. Com'on, work with me here, Tobacoo kills thousands a year, and its not ban?

Drugs will rarely cause diease if taken once to twice, but like I said, all the disaese out has no cure according to the FDA. Which means if you take treatment, in other words drugs, you have to it for LIFE. A long term of use of drugs is bad for anyone--I think all educated person should know that.

THIS IS COMMON SENSE: Technoloy and "medicine" gets more advance, yet there is no cure for any diease. But instead, the rate of the dieases have increase largely over the years, and "coincidently" drugs are rising dramatically. Their profit is rising, we americans are getting fatter and fatter, and sicker.....and the circle goes on.

And the FDA made this a law: any substances that cure or treat a diesae must be a drug, anyone without license to sells drug cannot sell the substances. Anyone here know of a diease call scurvy? its just a vitamen C deficiency. and the cure is eating fruits.....is fruits a drug?

You are obviously retarded, and I really dont think there is any more to it.

I welcome you to live a life of not taking drugs and medication, and well... dieing, but thats not for me

I've had enough of aruging with a complete moron who fails to see such obvious logic

I welcome you to live a life of not taking drugs and medication, and well... dieing, but thats not for me

....wait, I'm not going to get sick or have a major diease, why am I going to die.....or bet yet, why the hell do I need drugs when will be healthy all my life.

I've had enough of aruging with a complete moron who fails to see such obvious logic

I've got your "obvious logic" right here:

THIS IS COMMON SENSE: Technoloy and "medicine" gets more advance, yet there is no cure for any diease. But instead, the rate of the dieases have increase largely over the years, and "coincidently" drugs are rising dramatically. Their profit is rising, we americans are getting fatter and fatter, and sicker.....and the circle goes on." - Mr.Funk

Do you think America is the only country in the world where disease is rising along with the number of medicine? Do you ever think that maybe the amount of medicine is rising because of the number of diseases, and not the other way around? My dad takes these cholestorol pills to help lower his, I don't see him dying. He takes them 2 times a day I think. It's actually helping him, his cholestorol is dropping.

You mention these doctors with 'natural' remedies but all the good stuff you hear in these ads etc etc is just that, "all the good stuff.'' There are cases where these 'natural' remedies cause complications just as the 'evil drugs' do.