Letter from Iraq

[Andrew]

Michael Moore published a book of letters from soldiers and the families of soliders that were lost, injured, or currently serving in Iraq that opposed the war last year. The thing is, I just can't trust Michael Moore. While he makes some good points and it's good to have both sides, he just utilises "creative editing" too much and comes off as being as big a tool as the folks he criticises for me to join his camp. I'd rather believe what I truly believe than let an "analyst" like Moore tell me the "truth".

[Riot]

Here's another letter from Iraq, and guess what? It's not the only one, they just keep coming and coming ever yday.

Four US soldiers have been killed and more were injured in two separate bomb attacks north of the Iraqi capital.

Three soldiers were killed and another was injured in a blast late on Wednesday near Balad, 80km (50 miles) north of Baghdad.

The attack happened a few hours after a US soldier was killed and four were wounded in a roadside bomb near Tikrit.

At least 1,980 US troops have been killed in Iraq since the US-led invasion in March 2003.

Yup, it is a bloody war. We knew it was going to be a bloody war. 1,980 dead US Troops is 1,980 too many. However, sometimes a sacrafice has to be made to make a difference. I promise you, in 20 years we'll look back and remember President Bush for starting the War on Terror, capturing Saddam (maybe Osama, too) and freeing Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Jackal]

And Jackal, this is the general forum. I can post whatever pleases me as long as it follows the rules. I don't think there is an anti-political rule anywhere in the NLSC rulebook, is there? Thank you for respecting my opinion, Jack. Keep it real.

I'm pleased to read that you know that this is a general forum. You're progressing.

Just as you have the right to voice your opinion, I voiced mine, these threads are beginning to tire & all you're doing is spamming in a more advanced form.

Anyways, given I don't really care for these threads any longer, carry on.

[Riot]

Would it be better if I had my own politics thread? Maybe even worth a sticky.

[Jackal]

Yeah, maybe that's better instead of just having a new politics related thread every other day. The sticky I won't talk about given I wouldn't sticky it.

[Riot]

I can have a chit-chat with my good friend Andrew about a possible sticky. I will be making my politics thread shortly.

[Andrew]

I suppose we could try a single thread, but people didn't really care for the Kobe thread.

[Riot]

But you only talk so much about Kobe Bryant. Politics covers practically anything.

[Andrew]

That's actually the point. With so many topics, a single thread mightn't really be enough with so many tangents.

[Riot]

Are you trying to make me look bad? God Andrew.

[Jackal]

I think all politics in one thread is an awesome idea. This way I just have to skip one thread instead of like, 3.

[Riot]

To my defense, the hottest political threads lately haven't been made by me. But I think they have been aimed at me.

[shadowgrin]

he's asking for three extra months to prepare his defense better, since he fired most of his lawyers

Because his own lawyers also want him dead.

Kobe thread

There was one? Gahd, that's amusing.

[cyanide]

at the Kobe thread.. yeah, the bible thread wasn't stickied and that didn't matter, I have to agree with Andrew, there's always something different that relates to politics. Maybe the "war on terror" thread would be more appropriate, but then again, it'd be like the bible thread, surfacing then re-surfacing, but doesn't scream "sticky".

[Bang]

This reminds me A LOT when the American army occupied Korea. The whole cheering in the streets thing. Of course they do that regardless of whether they hate America or not. They want to live, they want some food or whatever. Heck, if I were starving and desperate for supplies, I'd do that as well, for a small chance that I'd get the food.

I've heard tons of stories of my father's generation (not from my father though) constantly following the American troop trucks trying to get some food or supplies. Yet most of those Americans then insulted us behind their backs and never gave out food or anything because they didn't get what the hell we were talking about. You know how I can prove this? Easy. They called us Gooks. Mi Gook In in Korean means American. So being american (in other words monolingual) they thought we were saying "me gook in". You think this phrase wouldn't have become commonplace if it weren't the case that a lot of soldiers said it?

I can just imagine those americans saying "hahah, look at that gook". "Look, they want to be called gooks." I can just imagine their cruel smiles. I can imagine they're probably saying "look at those stupid a-rabs" or something for the Iraqis as well.

They were calling out to the Americans, but the Americans thought we were shouting out "we're Gooks". They were referring to Americans, which is sort of funny since than means Gooks should refer to Americans.

Iraq is a puppet state, and will be a puppet state, much like Korea, japan and basically all those other countries in the world. Yes, it's much better than living under Sadaam but things won't be so happy go lucky for so long. Let's see if in 50 years the people will be happy to have those soldiers when they were supposed to leave 30 years ago or something. I hate this fucking freedom bullcrap. Just fucking say you want oil. Or you want a bigger market. I don't mind capitalist evil, but I mind the fucking lying.

[Riot]

But Bang, you know what? We are giving them food. We're fixing their schools. We're fixing their water treatment plants. We're giving them better medical treatment. We're fixing their hospitals. We're fixing their electrical issues.

I don't quite get what you are trying to say. You can hate on the politics and George Bush but those soldiers are doing what they are told. They are told to be friends to the Iraqi people and to give them supplies and food. Protect them. But you know what? If the general told them to blow thier heads off, they would in a second too. It doesn't matter what the politics is about war. The soldiers do as they are told.

I don't give a fuck about your little gook story. Different people in different situations and circumstances equal different results. I know people who WERE IN IRAQ and they are getting kissed and invited for food and tea and being hugged and mobbed by the Iraqis. Begging for food? Yes. But who's giving them the food? Americans. The bridge between the two gets larger.

Iraqi's have their own state. They elected their own officals and America had little to do with the constitutional writing. America is just there to police their country and to secure it until Iraq can fully do it. Then America will back off and serve mainly as an anti-terrorism/insurgent squad. Basically, letting the Iraqi's do the patrolling and the searches while Americans get called when the job is too big for the Iraqi's.

The war is for oil? How so? You know that oil that is in Iraq? Yeah, some of it's going to America. Most of it's going to Iraqis. Some of it's going to Asia. Saddam would take it and not give to his people. America secured the oil fields but they are in the control of the Iraqi government. Puppets? They are puppets if the Iraqi's want them to be. I've heard many stories, puppets they are not. The two sides hardly ever agree on anything and Americans and Iraqi's politcally are at odds. They are a pain in the ass to deal with.

Lying? By who? WMD's? Saddam had them. Terrorists? Their in there. Puppets? I don't think so. Anti-Americanism? You bet.

You are missing the whole point. America is rebuilding the country and giving them supplies and more importantly, hope. I don't give a shit if Bush's main objective was to go in there and get oil. It doesn't matter. What matters is what is being done and what's being done is a lot of progress and hope for the Iraqi people. You don't think they appreciate what Americans are doing? You think the dancing in the streets, the pulling down of Saddam's statue, the hugging and kissing American troops, waving American flags and the 67% voting turn out is all propaganda? I think you are searching for reasons to hate on the war. You guys finally see the war making progress and you quesiton the legitmacy of it all.

You say I should stop watching CNN and Fox News. You guys realize that all CNN and Fox News shows is the bad stuff? They'll go over an American soldier dying a 1,000 times but they won't even discuss the the capture of top terrorist leaders or the American troops working side by side with Iraqi civilians building new schools and hospitals.

Honestly, I don't really give a shit if you think the war is justified or not. I don't care if you think this is all propaganda and I'm a brainwashed motherfucker who only can see things with his red, white and blue colored glasses on. The bottom line is this: we're in Iraq and we're making progress. You can't deny that. You can't fight that. We'll be there until the job is complete.

[Riot]

I'm sorry for being so aggressive, I must have been drugged up or something.

[Maaarf]

Yeah but can you ever stop this?

http://www.funnydump.com/videos/carbomb.htm

[Riot]

Yeah but can you ever stop this?

http://www.funnydump.com/videos/carbomb.htm

No, but can we ever stop AIDS?

[Maaarf]

Yeah but can you ever stop this?

http://www.funnydump.com/videos/carbomb.htm

No, but can we ever stop AIDS?

Yeah, don't you know the government has the cure but won't reveal it because it's a good business right now?

[shadowgrin]

AIDS is only a result of HIV.

Like most viruses, HIV cannot be eliminated by a cure (for now). That's why a cure for the common cold virus, if ever discovered, will be a major breakthrough for science. The only way to eliminate a virus for now is to let it run its lifespan. The medicines are merely to minimize the damage/side effects that the virus brings with it. When the virus dies from your system then you're healed/safe, assuming your body withstood the the effects of the virus.

There are no cure for AIDS but medicines are present that lessen its damaging effect. For as long as you have HIV you're always susceptible to AIDS. Medicine for AIDS are already in production by major pharmaceutical companies and are accessible to individuals that have the means to get it, i.e. Magic Johnson. That's the sad part of it, only rich persons can buy those medicines to keep AIDS at bay while the less fortunate are neglected by those companies. Some organizations do fight against these companies so that these medicines will be available to the majority.

[Riot]

But like I said; there is no cure for AIDs or HIV or whatever you want to call it.

[shadowgrin]

Yes Riot, you are right. (again)
There is no cure for AIDS, HIV (for now)
My previous post was in response to Maaarf's post, to put an end to that "government doesn't want to reveal the cure" because there is no cure, yet.