9/11 - Never Forget

by **Anthony15** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:47 am

Uncommon Sence has some big issues...

by **Emiliano** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:17 am

Legend wrote:
no, i can voice my opinion and if shutup is the only thing you can say to me than you my dear are the one who needs to shutup. you know nothing of what the people who live here went through all you know is what you've been told, you didnt see this first hand so you think you know but you have no idea

Listen twat-juice.. I can get into an in-depth argument with you if you like.. and I said shutup because you go on ranting about how we dont know how it felt and all this shit .. blah blah blah.. I couldnt care less to tell you the truth.. shit happens.. people died.. people are dying all over the world every fucking day.. and we cant do shit about it.. the course of life takes its turns everyday. We got starving kids in 3rd world countries dying everyday and we dont do shit about it.. so dont go on saying shit like:

yeah its great that you all care for this, but how many of you were literally in walking distance of the towers when they fell? i bet none. how many of you actually live in the city where you can still describe to a tee what the air smelt like, what the streets looked like, how many people that you personally know died

Why dont you go fuck yourself... so you know more about this than me just because you went up to a tree and smelt it? The 9/11 attacks were tragic yes.. but dont get all hostile on people just because we werent there to see it.. we saw enough of it on television.. and yea you probably see a different perspective when you see it upfront but again dont go around flaunting your shit just because you saw it firsthand. This isn't a competition. So good for you..

I try and stay outta these political debates as much as I can because none of us are going to agree on the same thing. And it doesn't help when uneducated cunts such as yourself throw yourself into the mix.

You voice your opinion based on the world you live in, can the thousands of innocent civilians that are homeless now voice their opinions? No. Try putting yourself in their shoes for a day. Thousands and thousands of innocent civs died in Iraq and Afghanistan and all you fucks do is honor the Americans that died in 9/11. I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you about "How it all started" or "Why Americans are in Iraq". Just want to make it clear to you that ranting on about how you've seen the worst is bullshit.. you wanna see the worst? Get mommy or daddy to get you a ticket to Iraq.. go visit a hospital.. look at all the kids with amputated legs and arms.. with no home to return to.

you my dear are the one who needs to shutup. you know nothing of what the people who live here went through

How bout you go fuck yourself? Sounds like a great idea to me.. did you lose your fucking home? Was the food taken off your table? Were you forced to drop out of school to support a family because your father died? My point exactly. Unless you've lost a loved one in the attacks you got no right bitching and whining about "how your life has changed drastically".

Definately a great post...couldn't have said it better.

by **Mentally Hilarious** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:54 am

cyanide wrote:Ah, such patriotism! Can we mourn without the propaganda that's making this whole thing into a farce?

WHAT?! Now you're just silly. Soon you'll suggest something as crazy as internal politics separated from the intrests of say, TNC's. Decisions without lobbying that is. Which would just be crazy, we all know when Texaco says jump, Bush jumps.

by **Jackal_** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:05 am

Thanks for the support guys.. just had to throw it on the table.. it was botherin me lol..

And Jae, next time I'll have some ebonics for you

G!

by **Riot** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:26 am

Ok, for all of those people who say we only care because it's Americans. YOU ARE RIGHT! It was our fellow countrymen who were attacked by a bunch of pansies who wouldn't face us face to face.

If something like this happened to your country you'd feel the same way.

We're fighting in honor of those who lost their lives on this day four years ago. We never forget.

by **Riot** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:29 am

Mazzlowcchi™ wrote:...your constantly being reminded of what happened on 9-11-01 and its really pissing you off.
Post here
The government kept telling us to live our lives, and yet they keep shoving memories of this tragic day into our heads evry miniute for the past week and its really annoying.

If it was up to me, I'd show that footage everyday. Some people forget and this is something that should never be forgotten.

You can live your life and remember at the same time. If you died or if your wife or dad or mom died in that tower you'd want people to remember that day.

by **Fitzy** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:36 am

Shaun Livingston's birthday is September 11 :mrgreen:

by **Uncommon Sense** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:08 am

Legend wrote:
no, i can voice my opinion and if shutup is the only thing you can say to me than you my dear are the one who needs to shutup. you know nothing of what the people who live here went through all you know is what you've been told, you didnt see this first hand so you think you know but you have no idea

Listen twat-juice.. I can get into an in-depth argument with you if you like.. and I said shutup because you go on ranting about how we dont know how it felt and all this shit .. blah blah blah.. I couldnt care less to tell you the truth.. shit happens.. people died.. people are dying all over the world every fucking day.. and we cant do shit about it.. the course of life takes its turns everyday. We got starving kids in 3rd world countries dying everyday and we dont do shit about it.. so dont go on saying shit like:

yeah its great that you all care for this, but how many of you were literally in walking distance of the towers when they fell? i bet none. how many of you actually live in the city where you can still describe to a tee what the air smelt like, what the streets looked like, how many people that you personally know died

Why dont you go fuck yourself... so you know more about this than me just because you went up to a tree and smelt it? The 9/11 attacks were tragic yes.. but dont get all hostile on people just because we werent there to see it.. we saw enough of it on television.. and yea you probably see a different perspective when you see it upfront but again dont go around flaunting your shit just because you saw it firsthand. This isn't a competition. So good for you..

I try and stay outta these political debates as much as I can because none of us are going to agree on the same thing. And it doesn't help when uneducated cunts such as yourself throw yourself into the mix.

You voice your opinion based on the world you live in, can the thousands of innocent civilians that are homeless now voice their opinions? No. Try putting yourself in their shoes for a day. Thousands and thousands of innocent civs died in Iraq and Afghanistan and all you fucks do is honor the Americans that died in 9/11. I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you about "How it all started" or "Why Americans are in Iraq". Just want to make it clear to you that ranting on about how you've seen the worst is bullshit.. you wanna see the worst? Get mommy or daddy to get you a ticket to Iraq.. go visit a hospital.. look at all the kids with amputated legs and arms.. with no home to return to.

you my dear are the one who needs to shutup. you know nothing of what the people who live here went through

How bout you go fuck yourself? Sounds like a great idea to me.. did you lose your fucking home? Was the food taken off your table? Were you forced to drop out of school to support a family because your father died? My point exactly. Unless you've lost a loved one in the attacks you got no right bitching and whining about "how your life has changed drastically".

alright well mabye i didnt loose a father, but i did loose 8 people who i loved; a grandfather, an aunt, a cousin, two uncles, and a few good family friends.. and i could care less about what you say because it means shit to me

uncommon sense , I am in walkin distance and a couple of my friends families died . I live literally 20 minutes away from the WTC , that is walking.

good, than you know what im talking about? at that point i lived three blocks over

I'm all for remembering back to 9/11, but when it gets to the point of Uncommon Sense it's ridiculous. Just shut up, you disgrace the very thing you're trying to support. You're supporting victims of 9/11, but then you basically tell anyone who isn't from New York to go fuck themselves. It's retarded.

no im saying everyone should stop reminding people about this, it happened its done and over with we have bigger things to handle like new orleans and to get our troops out of iraq because they keep making it worse down there

by **Riot** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:15 am

I don't want to turn this into a debate, but you are disrespecting the troops if you think "they" are making it worse over there.

Iraq is improving, a lot, and we'll stay there until they can stand on their own two feet.

by **FendeR`** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:58 am

Uncommon Sense wrote:
I'm all for remembering back to 9/11, but when it gets to the point of Uncommon Sense it's ridiculous. Just shut up, you disgrace the very thing you're trying to support. You're supporting victims of 9/11, but then you basically tell anyone who isn't from New York to go fuck themselves. It's retarded.

no im saying everyone should stop reminding people about this, it happened its done and over with we have bigger things to handle like new orleans and to get our troops out of iraq because they keep making it worse down there

I was completely ready to come into this thread and see a bunch of people talking about how we should constantly commemorate this event, and I was completely ready to tell them that there's a point where you move on. But the spin you put on it sounds like we just don't know what it was like, we can't understand it. We can keep it somewhere in the back of our minds and still move on.

by **Wormy10** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:22 am

I dont know if this has been said yet or not but our troops over there are helping the situation more than hurting it, believe it or not. A lot of countries that have been overrun by terrorism have been "small" countries which is what we are in now, and that has no central government, which we are in now. We are controlling the situation, say if nobody was over there then everything would get worse over there, terrorism would rise and sooner or later we would have a bunch of crazy ass foreign people trying to take over the world or at least the U.S. and that wouldnt be good would it? ...

by **Uncommon Sense** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:32 am

Riot wrote:I don't want to turn this into a debate, but you are disrespecting the troops if you think "they" are making it worse over there.

Iraq is improving, a lot, and we'll stay there until they can stand on their own two feet.

The War in Iraq Costs the United States
$193,716,605,124 +

Instead:
-we could have fully funded global anti-hunger efforts for 8 years.
-we could have fully funded worldwide AIDS programs for 9 years.
-we could have ensured that every child in the world was given basic immunizations for 64 years.
-we could have provided 9,390,985 students four-year scholarships at public universities.

i think the money we've spent on war would have been better for those causes than getting barley anything acomplished in 4 years

by **Riot** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:43 am

1. The world will never stop being hungry. You can't keep feeding them until they all die.
2. There never will be a cure for AIDS.
3. We are giving children in Iraq immunizations they've never gotten before.
4. That's great. But you know what? Since we took over Iraq girls are now allowed to go to school in Iraq. That's a lot of generations of girls that will be able to attend school now.

Barely anything accomplished? I respect people's opinions, but that was a stupid comment. Nothing? Pathetic. We've gotten TONS done in Iraq and soon enough Iraq will be the model nation in the middle east.

You should have added:
-Saddam still in control in the middle east where he supports terrorism and tortures his own people and neighbors.
-Terrorist attack plans that America has captured are still undiscovered and could possibley happen on US soil or another nation.

by **Cable** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:05 am

Riot wrote:You should have added:
-Saddam still in control in the middle east where he supports terrorism and tortures his own people and neighbors.
-Terrorist attack plans that America has captured are still undiscovered and could possibley happen on US soil or another nation.

Couldn't have said it better, that's exactly what I was thinking.

by **Mazzocchi** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:21 am

Come on guys, dont be so hard on Uncommon.
Its just her oppinion.
And I kinda agree with her.
lets not turn this thread into a flame war.

After today is over we wont think about 9/11 for another year so lets just get this day over with

by **Uncommon Sense** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:25 am

Mazzlowcchi™ wrote:Come on guys, dont be so hard on Uncommon.
Its just her oppinion.
And I kinda agree with her.
lets not turn this thread into a flame war.

After today is over we wont think about 9/11 for another year so lets just get this day over with

Thank You!

by **The Other Kevin** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:29 am

Uncommon Sense wrote:
Mazzlowcchi™ wrote:Come on guys, dont be so hard on Uncommon.
Its just her oppinion.
And I kinda agree with her.
lets not turn this thread into a flame war.

After today is over we wont think about 9/11 for another year so lets just get this day over with

Thank You!

Just let it go. They obviously didn't know people connected to 9/11.

by **Riot** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:44 pm

Mazzlowcchi™ wrote:After today is over we wont think about 9/11 for another year so lets just get this day over with

Not true. I think of it everyday. Like I've said, it's something you never forget. That one day changed the way America operated. If you thought we didn't take shit before then, you should see us now.

by **J@3** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:13 pm

If it was up to me, I'd show that footage everyday. Some people forget and this is something that should never be forgotten.

What a ridiculous notion. As if it'll ever be forgotten, it's rammed down all of our throats at every opportunity possible. I mean for fuck sakes, in typical American fashion it even has it's own trendy nickname. "911" I mean what the hell.

I don't really have an opinion on the war one way or the other, I don't know enough to form a fully educated opinion on it but those things Uncommon Sense listed look ALOT more important then removing Saddam, for whatever reason it is he was removed.

Also, why do people think Iraq is the only place with an evil dictator-like ruler that needs to be removed from the Super Happy Friends, or the United States as otherwise known? I've seen/heard enough about things going on in Africa that make me think Iraq in comparison is a waste of time. Awell, my opinion means nothing since I'll never be president. My IQ is too high for it.

by **Riot** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:58 pm

He isn't the only evil, corrupt and terrorist-funding/supporting government in the world. He is just the target #1. I wouldn't be surprised if you see America attack Iran via Co-ops missions within the year. We already have special forces in there.

You don't have to remember 9/11 and you don't have to care about it. But it's our fellow people and I care a lot about what happened on that day and so do a lot of other people. If you don't like it, fuck off. It's as simple as that. Should I laugh at the tsnaumi because of all the attention it got? Seriously, I know you guys have problems with Americans but whenever someone bad happens to America (9/11 or Katrina) you guys think we should fuck off and get over it. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Anyways, those responsible are getting hell on earth. Bin Laden wanted war and he got it.

by **J@3** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:16 pm

That 2nd paragraph made absolutely no sense. Either way, I don't see why playing a tragic incident every day would actually help anyone. Hey, wouldn't the victims families just love seeing the moment their loved ones were murdered, every single day.

by **cyanide** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:33 pm

Riot wrote:He isn't the only evil, corrupt and terrorist-funding/supporting government in the world. He is just the target #1.

Wtf, how come I never read about Saddam being a funder for terrorism? I'm not saying this about you, but this just occurred to me, that it would be preposterous for any American to think that 9/11 is somehow directly linked to Saddam.

Personally, I think

Uncommon Sense wrote:Instead:
-we could have fully funded global anti-hunger efforts for 8 years.
-we could have fully funded worldwide AIDS programs for 9 years.
-we could have ensured that every child in the world was given basic immunizations for 64 years.
-we could have provided 9,390,985 students four-year scholarships at public universities.

sounds so much better, as this would not only benefit the future, but billions of people.

Riot wrote:1. The world will never stop being hungry. You can't keep feeding them until they all die.
2. There never will be a cure for AIDS.
3. We are giving children in Iraq immunizations they've never gotten before.
4. That's great. But you know what? Since we took over Iraq girls are now allowed to go to school in Iraq. That's a lot of generations of girls that will be able to attend school now.

1. For 8 years, that can make a difference as attention can be turned to establishing more internally for Africa and other poverty-stricken nations in need of help.
2. There may be a cure for AIDS. There's no cure now, but with a medical breakthrough, there may be one in the future.
3. Uh, as opposed to "we could have ensured that every child in the world was given basic immunizations for 64 years."?
4. Well, instead of 4-year scholarships for millions in the US, we could pay a few billion for the assassination of Saddam and give everyone in Iraq free schooling for many years, perhaps.

Jae wrote:Hey, wouldn't the victims families just love seeing the moment their loved ones were murdered, every single day.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

by **Jackal_** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:14 pm

How did I know this thread would end up like this.. the twat just couldnt shutup..

by **Mentally Hilarious** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:26 pm

Riot wrote:1. The world will never stop being hungry. You can't keep feeding them until they all die.
2. There never will be a cure for AIDS.
3. We are giving children in Iraq immunizations they've never gotten before.
4. That's great. But you know what? Since we took over Iraq girls are now allowed to go to school in Iraq. That's a lot of generations of girls that will be able to attend school now.

Barely anything accomplished? I respect people's opinions, but that was a stupid comment. Nothing? Pathetic. We've gotten TONS done in Iraq and soon enough Iraq will be the model nation in the middle east.

You should have added:
-Saddam still in control in the middle east where he supports terrorism and tortures his own people and neighbors.
-Terrorist attack plans that America has captured are still undiscovered and could possibley happen on US soil or another nation.

Shit Riot, I think you have disgusting opinions on many subjects. But would you please stop talking out of your ass without the most basic notion of what you're talking about? Please. That would be nice. Really.

EDIT: Adding something to the discussion also.

1. What? All calculations made proove otherwise. Aspecially considering that when a man/woman doesn't have to spend all day trying to find food to stay alive. Their efforts will be directed towards other things. Thus abling sustained development.

2. As we all know? What?

3. So it's better that the few children in Iraq gets it then the children in the rest of the world?

4. Girls was indeed allowed into schools if not by the same premisses as boys. Nor was it usual, but rather unusual. Still a faulty statement. In Afghanistan though, the removal of the Talibans have led to girls being able to attend school.

The "model nation" of the middle east based on what criteria? Our percival of it? Or the bordering nations? The one that matters more when it comes to sustained stability in the nation.
Saddam didn't rule the middle east, what kind of statement is this? He was a part of a council that took part for all nations in the area. Much like the EU or the AU. Not as democratic and lot more hateful, but claiming that he was in charge of the middle east?

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:25 pm

I think it's important to remember 9/11 as both a cautionary tale of the times we're living in but also to remember those who not only died as a result of the hijacking, but also the bravery shown by those who gave their time or even their lives in rescue efforts.

But when it comes to remembering it or commemorating it, those of us living outside the US are almost in a no-win situation. When we offer our thoughts, perspectives, condolences and prayers, it seems often they're slapped away with a haughty "You're not American!" remark. Yet we'd be scolded for indifference as well. No matter what our stance, some Americans seem to see it as inappropriate.

While some Australians did lose their lives in 9/11, to me it's simply a huge loss of human life and as a human living in this world, that's what matters to me more than the nationality of each of the people lost that day in 2001. I don't know about showing it every day though. Like I said, I think we should remember it but at the same time some reminders are too painful for some people.

Anyway, that's all I really want to say. As always, may those lost in the tragedy RIP and condolences always to those who lost friends and family that day.

9/11 - Never Forget

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