Kanye's Tirade on Bush

That's the bad part...there are people like Peter Griffin who don't think for themselves and do what others tell them to...

By the way Riot, did you know that the Red Cross only gives .40 cents on the dollar to the victims, the other .60 is overhead.

Yeah, that's why I just donated $50 to the Salvation Army.

@ Matt- everything you said was pretty true.i dont know why people that have great income have any authority to critisize how the government is run.me myself am not a bush fan and honestly i think hes doing an alright job besides iraq and gas prices.

The gas prices have nothing to do with Bush. It's simple economics. Supply and demand. Asia and the world is buying more and more oil which means the demand goes up and the price goes up. There is no way around, the world is oil-dependent.

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CHRONOLOGY....Here's a timeline that outlines the fate of both FEMA and flood control projects in New Orleans under the Bush administration. Read it and weep:

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January 2001: Bush appoints Joe Allbaugh, a crony from Texas, as head of FEMA. Allbaugh has no previous experience in disaster management.

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April 2001: Budget Director Mitch Daniels announces the Bush administration's goal of privatizing much of FEMA's work. In May, Allbaugh confirms that FEMA will be downsized: "Many are concerned that federal disaster assistance may have evolved into both an oversized entitlement program...." he said. "Expectations of when the federal government should be involved and the degree of involvement may have ballooned beyond what is an appropriate level."

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2001: FEMA designates a major hurricane hitting New Orleans as one of the three "likeliest, most catastrophic disasters facing this country."

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December 2002: After less than two years at FEMA, Allbaugh announces he is leaving to start up a consulting firm that advises companies seeking to do business in Iraq. He is succeeded by his deputy, Michael Brown, who, like Allbaugh, has no previous experience in disaster management.

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March 2003: FEMA is downgraded from a cabinet level position and folded into the Department of Homeland Security. Its mission is refocused on fighting acts of terrorism.

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2003: Under its new organization chart within DHS, FEMA's preparation and planning functions are reassigned to a new Office of Preparedness and Response. FEMA will henceforth focus only on response and recovery.

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Summer 2004: FEMA denies Louisiana's pre-disaster mitigation funding requests. Says Jefferson Parish flood zone manager Tom Rodrigue: "You would think we would get maximum consideration....This is what the grant program called for. We were more than qualified for it."

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June 2004: The Army Corps of Engineers budget for levee construction in New Orleans is slashed. Jefferson Parish emergency management chiefs Walter Maestri comments: "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay."

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June 2005: Funding for the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is cut by a record $71.2 million. One of the hardest-hit areas is the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, which was created after the May 1995 flood to improve drainage in Jefferson, Orleans and St. Tammany parishes.

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August 2005: While New Orleans is undergoing a slow motion catastrophe, Bush mugs for the cameras, cuts a cake for John McCain, plays the guitar for Mark Wills, delivers an address about V-J day, and continues with his vacation. When he finally gets around to acknowledging the scope of the unfolding disaster, he delivers only a photo op on Air Force One and a flat, defensive, laundry list speech in the Rose Garden.

So: A crony with no relevant experience was installed as head of FEMA. Mitigation budgets for New Orleans were slashed even though it was known to be one of the top three risks in the country. FEMA was deliberately downsized as part of the Bush administration's conservative agenda to reduce the role of government. After DHS was created, FEMA's preparation and planning functions were taken away.

Actions have consequences. No one could predict that a hurricane the size of Katrina would hit this year, but the slow federal response when it did happen was no accident. It was the result of four years of deliberate Republican policy and budget choices that favor ideology and partisan loyalty at the expense of operational competence. It's the Bush administration in a nutshell.

The gas prices have nothing to do with Bush. It's simple economics. Supply and demand. Asia and the world is buying more and more oil which means the demand goes up and the price goes up. There is no way around, the world is oil-dependent.

no i know its not his fault but theres a lot more he could do about it but isnt.

What could he do? Drill in Alaska? Whoops, he is trying but the green peace people aren't happy with that.

Go to war with Iraq to secure oil fields and to actually distrubt it evenly and fairly? Whoops, he's doing that too.

What else can he do? Nothing.

oh i love this im always up for a friendly debate. he could release the oil reserve. ask for more gas from russia being that they have lots of rigs.fix the damaged pipelines sooner.make more gas available by credit. encourage and maybe fund more cheaper production of hybrid american cars. theres lots he could do your thinking small.

1. Go into the reserve? That reserve is there for emergencies. It's being saved for when we need it.

2. You can't just ask, you still have to pay.

3. Funding for hybrid cars won't make the gas prices go down.

You are missing the whole point. There is no way to get rid of the gas prices. It's supply and demand. Asia is growing and demanding a shit load more oil than they use to. Everyone is dependent on oil and that is making the price go up. And guess what? It will only go up even more.

You are missing the whole point. There is no way to get rid of the gas prices. It's supply and demand. Asia is growing and demanding a shit load more oil than they use to. Everyone is dependent on oil and that is making the price go up. And guess what? It will only go up even more.

Thats true. I dont even drive my car to school 5 times a week i go 2, maybe 3 times next week. But even the thought of "asking" another country for oil is sooo wack.

Hell the war in Iraq started as a pride and ending terrorism war but it more or less was "Oil in Iraq? Saddam and terrorists in Iraq? Lets get it both but make the public think its all about fighting terrorism."

Im not a very politically charged person but...

ask for more gas from russia being that they have lots of rigs.

Boy i bet Russia would just love to give away there liquid money to little old us.

fix the damaged pipelines sooner.make more gas available by credit

Those are good ideas i guess but Our president isnt the shapest tool in the shed so those thing arent too likley...

encourage and maybe fund more cheaper production of hybrid american cars. theres lots he could do your thinking small.

I think they already are working on solar cars. Thinking Small? Were thinking American.

America is a now, now, now scociety and were(the government) aren't gonna try to fix problems as quick as they can.

We have to think on our own cuz noone else besides Britan really would give a flying fuck about us, Theres a Tsunami in Asia? Were america and were gonna help you get back on your feet. And when we have one of the biggest national disasters happen in one of the biggest cities/states in our country noone is gonna help us.

We can fucking buy a poor under-privlaged african or asian child but our country gets whacked and our in country sports teams are donating more monet than other countries..

Damn it felt good to get all that out.

America really didn't give much money to the tsnanumi aid, we only gave about $10 million as a government. But the American people donated more money than any other country (people).

but still thats 10 million more to the tsunami aid then weve gotten for the hurrican which has been just as bad if not worse.

I wouldn't call it worse, it's two completely different things.

A lot of you sound real ignorant right now. A person shouldn't have the right to express his own opinion? If that's how you feel, why do you even come to Discussion Boards? And what was that by Riot; alot of idiots (Peter Griffins what you called them) are going to follow him because it's cool?? Contrary to what you might think is going on in your taintless perfect world, there are us who live in reality and I know for a fact alot of people feel just like Kanye and are inspired by his courage to say what you didn't want to hear. Shit, I live in Baton Rouge(We got hit by Katrina too). That's 35 minutes from New Orleans and the place the majority of the evacuees were brought to. It's chaos around here and I can vouche for everything Kanye said (like the order to kill any looters even though there's no food or drinkable water and many areas have yet to recieve any aid, like my aunt-in-law and her family) as being true. It's funny how some people know what's going on but at the same time are completely oblivious to what's really going on.

Are you black?

Exactly, why cant Kanye express his opinions. Tupac would have got the same treatment if he was a live and said this, you'd all be going who the fuck is this rapper to say this.

Kurt Cobain had a following of junkies and acted like this totally wasted trash bag, yet people hail him. Alright he didnt criticise a President but fueling anti-social behaviour is a bigger offense than insulting a President. Now I love Nirvana and think Kurt's A OK, just giving an example of a situation.

Eminem made a song about George Bush, he insulted him on every front yet that was supported by the media. What about people saying the four letters to Jesus Christ, they can express their opinions right so why cant Kanye?

Kanye shouldnt have said that Bush doesnt give a shit about black people, although I know that lots of african americans do feel mistreated even in the modern world but you cant totally verbally assasinate him for expressing an opinion. He pretty much showed how shit he thinks Bush is in 'Jesus Walks', so he just stepped it upto to a higher level.

It's still his opinion.

Irrelevant. If a celebrity is in the KKK and decides to preach his beliefs to a huge global audience, would that be alright because it's his "opinion"? I know it's a different scenario, but just because he has an opinion doesn't mean it needs to be aired in this way.

A lot of you sound real ignorant right now. A person shouldn't have the right to express his own opinion? If that's how you feel, why do you even come to Discussion Boards? And what was that by Riot; alot of idiots (Peter Griffins what you called them) are going to follow him because it's cool?? Contrary to what you might think is going on in your taintless perfect world, there are us who live in reality and I know for a fact alot of people feel just like Kanye and are inspired by his courage to say what you didn't want to hear.

Right... so a half baked rapper gets drunk at a concert, stands next to Austin Powers and says "George Bush don't care about black people" and that's courageous and inspiring? It's scraping the bottom of the barrell, that's what it is.

@ whatever Stevesanity said... yeah

Edit: Regardless of whether this was a rapper, a real musician, an actor etc I would feel the same. I don't think any celebrities have the right to express their opinions so publically when they know for a fact that alot of shallow minded people will adopt what they say as the gospel.

Why are you trying to discredit and demean him by saying he was drunk and calling him a half-baked rapper? Is that all you got? He wasn't drunk. That's obvious by how nervous he was. He came on TV and spoke out for the person gunned down for a loaf of bread or the family still trapped in the Convention Center, you dick. You're too infixated on "George Bush doesn't care about black people" The statement wasn't made to start a race war, it was to get that sorry piece of shit's attention. People are dying down here, and if he can send millions of soldiers to Iraq to fight over fucking oil he should be able to rescue all the dying survivors in his own backyard. But he hasn't. I have family still trapped down there and frankly I wish he'd act like he gave more of a fuck. That's why I applaud Kanye for what he said and really take offense to you calling it scraping the bottom of the barrel.

But that's your opinion and mine is that you and anyone that feels like you should

Why are you trying to discredit and demean him by saying he was drunk and calling him a half-baked rapper? Is that all you got? He wasn't drunk. That's obvious by how nervous he was.

Someone said he looked drunk, that's where my quote came from.

But that's your opinion and mine is that you and anyone that feels like you should

You're a fucking idiot.

But he hasn't. I have family still trapped down there and frankly I wish he'd act like he gave more of a fuck.

Go and cry elsewhere, you're a moron.

How about you go cry your heart out somewhere else, "Ma$ey". Be a little more selfish. Listen to yourself. "Wah wah, help my family now. Damnit Bush, you're so racist." Discussion boards? What the hell, this is basically an off-topic forum on an NBA Live website. And quite frankly, don't think you're the only one who thinks someone else should kill themselves.

You're a self-centered dipshit.

You wish he would give more than 10 billion dollars? You wish he would send more than 40,000 troops?

Shut the fuck up. People like you who say they "deserve" to get the best treatment are pathetic. I was watching the news and this lady was complaining that she only got crackers and water to eat. WHAT THE FUCK!?!?! You are lucky you got crackers and water, you bitch.

LOL Kanye is saying the media is bringing shit on the black people, ITS RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR EYES. Im not racist im just saying theres alot of blacks down there, but some of them are f*cking ass wholes. Theres alot of bad whites too, but in that area its blacks. F*CK KANYE i thought he was cool now hes a cock head

How about you go cry your heart out somewhere else, "Ma$ey". Be a little more selfish. Listen to yourself. "Wah wah, help my family now. Damnit Bush, you're so racist." Discussion boards? What the hell, this is basically an off-topic forum on an NBA Live website. And quite frankly, don't think you're the only one who thinks someone else should kill themselves.

You're a self-centered dipshit.

LOL I agree

Kanye really looked stupid, not because of what he said, but the way he was forcing himself to blurt out his opinions. If you're going to rant on TV, you might as well do it with conviction.