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Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:52 am

Jae wrote:People are actually looting stores there (N) Wankers.

when we had the Blackout in New York a few years ago people looted (Y)
:wink:

Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:00 am

That would be so cool to be in a blackout.

Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:03 am

Riot wrote:That would be so cool to be in a blackout.

eh, it wasnt as cool as you think, besides the looting it was pretty boring.
No TV, no Computer, no Raido, no cell phones. (N)

Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:06 am

Did the police have their Riot gear out?

Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:09 am

On Topic: Looks like the hurricane is headed towards Ontario Full Story

Take cover mafawka's..

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Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:11 am

Legend wrote:On Topic: Looks like the hurricane is headed towards Ontario Full Story

Take cover mafawka's..

Damn, thats gonna pass by me :x
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Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:13 am

Mazzlowcchi wrote:
Legend wrote:On Topic: Looks like the hurricane is headed towards Ontario Full Story

Take cover mafawka's..

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Damn, thats gonna pass by me :x


Better park the bentleys and rolls royce in the garage

Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:15 am

Legend wrote:
Mazzlowcchi wrote:
Legend wrote:On Topic: Looks like the hurricane is headed towards Ontario Full Story

Take cover mafawka's..

Damn, thats gonna pass by me :x


Better park the bentleys and rolls royce in the garage

yeah I know, I gotta lower my 2 basketball nets too so they dont fall over, and put a tarp over the cement court also. :(

Kidding

Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:18 am

It's not even a Hurricane anymore, it will just be a big thunderstorm. No need to freak out.

Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:20 am

Yikes! That's going right over me! :x Good thing it's been downgraded to a tropical storm, but still. :(

Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:44 pm

I'm a little late with this since I've not been around much this week, but it's terrible indeed. :(

Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:55 pm

And of course, the U.N. and other countries run to give America a helping hand. :roll:

Not even a simple condolence.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:07 pm

Oh yeah, and Bush is doing so much to help too.

I'm not saying Castro is good, but at least when there is a hurricane in Cuba, he evacuates people and comes to cities in buses and helps people leave.

Bush is handling this terribly.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:10 pm

Bush declared a natural emergency on Saturday and the town was evacuated as good as they could. It's impossible to get everyone out of a city the size of New Orleans within a week or so.

The people had a great deal of warning to get out of there but they choice to stick it out. Putting people in the Superdome saved lives. Bush declared Marshall Law and he is sending money and aid there but he is strapped in what he can do.

I'm sorry Bush didn't fly in there on his hovercraft and signal-handedly carry every person out of New Orleans.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:51 pm

I just saw before and after pictures in the news and let me tell you that when you see those the hairs of your neck will stand up. Too sad...

Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:02 pm

Well Bush seems to be more caring for how his oil barrels are coming in than whats happening to his own people course I dont reckon hes an American anymore so we arent his people, but dead bodies, nukes and Jesus Christ Version 2.0 are.

I have a good friend of mine in the Big Easy and luckily she was in Dallas when this all happend, Halleujah.
Too many disasters, its all be down road since the Boxing Day Tsunami. :cry:

Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:19 pm

Our government have donated $10 million. Which essentially means I have donated about 60 cents. You can thank me later.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:25 pm

Thanks Jae.

Bush cares about the oil because the rest of the country is bitching and moaning about how we have to pay over $3 a gallon for gas.

Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:18 pm

Riot wrote:Thanks Jae.

Bush cares about the oil because the rest of the country is bitching and moaning about how we have to pay over $3 a gallon for gas.

Yeah but he doesnt have to go bomb innocent people to get what he wants, but hey I guess I cant get in on this since my life is run by bikes and skateboards.

Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:23 am

Right Riot. Having people go to the Convention center where they are being shot, raped and starved is a great deed by the great bush administration.

Plus when you add the fact that for only 27 Million dollars we could have put up level 5 levys, which there were multiple chances to get done, Bush looks like a complete idiot here.

Level 5 levys would have made this no worse then a bad tropical storm.

Ok though, he made a mistake by not doing that, the hurricane happened he's doing all he can right?

Wrong. Sending people somewhere where there is no food, no water, no real shelter is not helping them. The Superdome was a good thing, but those people survived the storm, but they will not survive the aftermath. We need troops there, not Iraq. We need troops to be helping people dying in this country that were too poor to escape this disaster.

Another thing that outrages me about the whole thing was that there were flights going in to NO, but not going out. What the fuck? You are allowed to fly in to a city where there could be the most destructive natural disaster ever to hit this country, but not leave? What if you don't have a car? Not to mention that even if there were flights going out there are plenty of people that can't afford to drive or fly out. Its a total and complete disaster.

Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:16 am

The complete stench of your lunacy woke me up over at the other forum and forced me to come here to tell you to knock it off as people are trying to sleep. (Especially since Riot won't talk to me.)

-The Bush Administration did not order anyone to the Convention Center, the Mayor of New Orleans did this, and then he didn't tell FEMA that he did.

-First of all, the Bush Administration has no real say over the levees. True, the DHS not looking into the levee due to terrorist possibility is distressing. True, there was the possiblity for funding to improve the levees, but it would've taken until 2008 before construction even started in a best case scenario. You also need to learn more about the levee system:
Regarding the levee system in New Orleans, one cannot truly understand how lucky the city was just have the system that was in place without understanding the truly Byzantine structure of New Orleans politics, which requires separate governing boards for each levee that is built.

Rather one agency that is in charge of flood prevention, there are scores. Building in redundancies would have required more boards, which would have lessened the political power of those on the existing boards. I seriously doubt that even now, after this catastrophe, that we in Louisiana will see this system change because the structure is mandated by the Louisiana Constitution. Any change requires not just statewide approval, but must also be approved by a majority of voter in Orleans Parish. Given how many local politicians whose fiefdoms would disappear, that will not happen, and so we will see this disaster occur again.


-The Bush Administration did not send anyone to the Superdome, again it was the local government. Perhaps you need to learn about federalism. (Some of your other comments imply this is a very strong possibility)

-74.2% of the Army (active duty, Reserves and National Guard) is in the United States. 751,000 troops are here in the United States. 103,000 (or 10.2%) is in Iraq. To imply that because 10% of the force is in Iraq, too many troops have been diverted to Iraq instead of helping here is to imply that you're an idiot. The problem is not that too many troops are in Iraq, but that much of the anarchy is inaccessable at this time (thus, why there is anarchy there).

-If anything, Bush may be to blame for lives saved, as the order for "mandatory evacuation" was not given until after Bush "called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city" to Governor Kathleen Blanco.

Just because you have a visceral and irrational hatred for a man who's done no wrong to you, doesn't mean he's to blame for mother nature and years of infficiency and corruption in the local government of New Orleans. The Constitution gives the President no authority over mother nature.

Stop using any opportunity to attempt to score political points against people you irrationally hate, it's sickening.

All that said. A little joke for my friends here at the NLSC. "Need I remind you that in Louisiana the law is, basically, French. So, it’s really the French who are to blame."

Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:52 am

benji wrote:The complete stench of your lunacy woke me up over at the other forum and forced me to come here to tell you to knock it off as people are trying to sleep. (Especially since Riot won't talk to me.)

-The Bush Administration did not order anyone to the Convention Center, the Mayor of New Orleans did this, and then he didn't tell FEMA that he did.

-First of all, the Bush Administration has no real say over the levees. True, the DHS not looking into the levee due to terrorist possibility is distressing. True, there was the possiblity for funding to improve the levees, but it would've taken until 2008 before construction even started in a best case scenario. You also need to learn more about the levee system:
Regarding the levee system in New Orleans, one cannot truly understand how lucky the city was just have the system that was in place without understanding the truly Byzantine structure of New Orleans politics, which requires separate governing boards for each levee that is built.

Rather one agency that is in charge of flood prevention, there are scores. Building in redundancies would have required more boards, which would have lessened the political power of those on the existing boards. I seriously doubt that even now, after this catastrophe, that we in Louisiana will see this system change because the structure is mandated by the Louisiana Constitution. Any change requires not just statewide approval, but must also be approved by a majority of voter in Orleans Parish. Given how many local politicians whose fiefdoms would disappear, that will not happen, and so we will see this disaster occur again.


-The Bush Administration did not send anyone to the Superdome, again it was the local government. Perhaps you need to learn about federalism. (Some of your other comments imply this is a very strong possibility)

-74.2% of the Army (active duty, Reserves and National Guard) is in the United States. 751,000 troops are here in the United States. 103,000 (or 10.2%) is in Iraq. To imply that because 10% of the force is in Iraq, too many troops have been diverted to Iraq instead of helping here is to imply that you're an idiot. The problem is not that too many troops are in Iraq, but that much of the anarchy is inaccessable at this time (thus, why there is anarchy there).

-If anything, Bush may be to blame for lives saved, as the order for "mandatory evacuation" was not given until after Bush "called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city" to Governor Kathleen Blanco.

Just because you have a visceral and irrational hatred for a man who's done no wrong to you, doesn't mean he's to blame for mother nature and years of infficiency and corruption in the local government of New Orleans. The Constitution gives the President no authority over mother nature.

Stop using any opportunity to attempt to score political points against people you irrationally hate, it's sickening.

All that said. A little joke for my friends here at the NLSC. "Need I remind you that in Louisiana the law is, basically, French. So, it’s really the French who are to blame."


Amen.

You know that Clinton shut down the levee funding in 1998, right?

Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:15 pm

benji wrote:The complete stench of your lunacy woke me up over at the other forum and forced me to come here to tell you to knock it off as people are trying to sleep. (Especially since Riot won't talk to me.)


I was actually about to ask you back..........

-The Bush Administration did not order anyone to the Convention Center, the Mayor of New Orleans did this, and then he didn't tell FEMA that he did.


It was everywhere. Couldn't at least SOMEONE have payed attention up there about what was going on?

-First of all, the Bush Administration has no real say over the levees. True, the DHS not looking into the levee due to terrorist possibility is distressing. True, there was the possiblity for funding to improve the levees, but it would've taken until 2008 before construction even started in a best case scenario. You also need to learn more about the levee system:


That's true. It wouldn't have overly helped, but this still adds fuel to the New Orleans' sized flame.

-The Bush Administration did not send anyone to the Superdome, again it was the local government. Perhaps you need to learn about federalism. (Some of your other comments imply this is a very strong possibility)


Again, it was everywhere. Someone, at least an intern, could have picked up on it. Where was Bush durring this? Oh yeah, vacation on his giant private ranch. Where was Rice? Oh yeah, at a Brodway play. Why aren't the people that governing the country, I don't know GOVERNING the country?


-74.2% of the Army (active duty, Reserves and National Guard) is in the United States. 751,000 troops are here in the United States. 103,000 (or 10.2%) is in Iraq. To imply that because 10% of the force is in Iraq, too many troops have been diverted to Iraq instead of helping here is to imply that you're an idiot. The problem is not that too many troops are in Iraq, but that much of the anarchy is inaccessable at this time (thus, why there is anarchy there).


This is supposed to be what the National Guard is for. The National Guard is for some reason being used in a "peacekeeping mission" where more than 1500 of our citizens has died.

-If anything, Bush may be to blame for lives saved, as the order for "mandatory evacuation" was not given until after Bush "called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city" to Governor Kathleen Blanco.



It's just common sense to have a manditory evacuation. It would have happened no matter what.

Just because you have a visceral and irrational hatred for a man who's done no wrong to you, doesn't mean he's to blame for mother nature and years of infficiency and corruption in the local government of New Orleans. The Constitution gives the President no authority over mother nature.

Stop using any opportunity to attempt to score political points against people you irrationally hate, it's sickening.


No harm? Irrational? You are saying how we are blind sited, while you are a minion of the Republican machine.


All that said. A little joke for my friends here at the NLSC. "Need I remind you that in Louisiana the law is, basically, French. So, it’s really the French who are to blame."



Wouldn't expect any less from you, Benji. :lol:

Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:23 pm

The National Guard is to back the active US Army. It's trained to be used as a normal Active US Army force.

Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:29 pm

It's the second line of defence. The first was barly used.
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