Drilling in Alaska OK'd by senate

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Postby Riot on Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:57 am

So you are saying if you had a chance to make your life a little bit easier and a little bit more enjoyable you wouldn't do it? I don't buy that.
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Postby cyanide on Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:22 am

If it wasn't for a good reason, I wouldn't. I don't need a V6 to make my life easier when a 4 cylinder would do. Besides, the V6 would burn more gas, so bad example :)
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Postby Riot on Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:59 am

I don't even know how you got into this discussion.

I was talking about having to spend a lot of money a week on gas just to drive back and forth from work and home. Anything to lower the price works for me. (Y)
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Postby cyanide on Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:11 am

Riot wrote:Anything to lower the price works for me.


That part doesn't work for some of us...
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Postby Riot on Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:13 am

Well, that's your opinion. But drilling in some national park in Alaska or whatever it is doesn't concern me right now.
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Postby FendeR` on Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:25 am

I can't say that I think drilling in Alaska is a bad thing. I don't see drilling there to be like the apocalypse for Alaska and Alaska becoming one huge dump. Will it destroy some of Alaska? Pretty much, yes, I understand that. Hopefully we will be able to make the hydrogen idea (or another new idea) work more effectively and make it more mainstream for cars. But I think Alaska will survive this drilling and it won't be all that bad (although people will still plead their case against it).
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Postby Indy on Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:47 pm

Riot wrote:Well, that's your opinion. But drilling in some national park in Alaska or whatever it is doesn't concern me right now.


well, then you have no compassion, and all you care about is yourself.

your willing to destroy virgin lands in order to have one year of cheaper gas in 10 years.
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Postby Riot on Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:41 pm

Um...basically, yup.
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Postby Indy on Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:37 am

Riot wrote:Um...basically, yup.


well in that case, your not going to find many people who agree with you.

oh wait yes you will... we live in america :roll:
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Postby Riot on Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:52 am

Funny thing is...you act like America is the only egotistic, selfish country in the world.

For the tsuanmi relief the GOVERNMENT barely gave any money (one of the fewest totals) but as people Americans gave more money per person than any other country in the world. The average person donated $60 to the tsuanmi relief...yes more than CANADIANS!

So don't go calling Americans selfish and stupid.
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Postby cyanide on Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:45 am

lol, that's biased. America's the richest country in the world.
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Postby Riot on Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:59 am

But wait...Canada close..they aren't that far behind America.

Plus, I thought Americans were selfish and arrogant...if that is true why would they give up $60 to some tsuamni that was thousands and thousands of miles away? And if a tsuamni hit America...I'm pretty sure a country wouldn't give us a whole lot of money to deal with it.

America is nicer than you think. The world NEEDS America. Look at Bosnia.
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Postby cyanide on Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:10 am

You have lots of multimillionares in America, and if the $60 per person is an average, I'm sure that those millionares and billionares boosted that average up. I have no idea how much Canada donated, but I'm sure they donated a modest amount. I didn't donate anything because I've read that the UN are saying that they're getting more than they needed in my local newspaper. Americans still show their arrogance such as, "Hey, we're donating $60 per person to the tsunami relief, and how much have you donated, huh? Huh?" And then they proceed to establish American factories and oil drillings in Iraq ;)
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Postby Ataraxia on Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:23 am

dont send money and food products......it just gets stolen by our local politicans and business men.....our countries r by a bunch of low lifez....so less is more

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Postby FendeR` on Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:57 am

It just makes me laugh when people from other countries call Americans arrogant. Are there some things screwed up in American right now? Completely, yes. But that is true in every country. We also TRY to do the right things here, even though there are many things that could people could say we've done terribly. Btw, cyanide, that was one person who said that :\
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Postby Indy on Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:30 am

haha riot i laughed so hard when you said that american people donated more money for the tsunami then canadian people and you were trying to make a point by it. you have no idea how arrogant and ignorant of a statement that is do you?

canadian population: 32,507,874
united states population: 293,027,571

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Postby Riot on Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:35 am

Dude, Americans gave more money PER PERSON. They average person gave $60. I'm not talking about total..because that was higher. But the average per person gave more than any other person.

Read what I said next time buddy.
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Postby cyanide on Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:57 am

Fender: Which person who said what?

Riot: Again with the numbers, you said the average person gave $60. As Indy pointed out, there's about 260 million more Americans than Canadians, and since the US is the richest country in the world, there's thousands of millionares that probably gave out $100 000 cheques (See: Jermaine O'Neal) that not many Canadians can give out. So of course the average American will donate more.

A quick lesson in math:

5 Canadian millionares gave out $100 000 to the tsunami relief ($500 000 total) and 200 000 middle class Canadians gave out $60 to the tsunami relief ($12 000 000 total)

Canadian average as listed above: $62.50 per person

200 American millionares gave out $100 000 to the tsunami relief ($20 000 000 total) and 300 000 middle class Americans gave out $40 to the tsunami relief ($12 000 000 total)

American average as listed above: $106.60 per person

So you see how this works? Even if a smaller middle class of Canadians gave $60 per person as opposed to a larger middle class of Americans who gave less, the average is still higher thanks to the larger amount of American millionares.
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Postby The GOAT on Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:04 am

LMAO! How much did you donate Riot? I remember you saying you weren't going to and you're going to spend it on a jersey instead. Don't even try to talk your way out of this.
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Postby Riot on Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:28 am

I didn't give a fucking cent because I know if it happened here it people in Asia wouldn't be giving us anything.

yes, I bought a jersey. I got myself a nice, slick Gilbert Arenas jersey from NBA.com.
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Postby Indy on Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:30 am

maybe thats because asia is one of the poorest countries in the world.... fucking asshole.

and i thought my post spoke for itself, thanks for spelling it out for riot.

and riot i have a question for you.

how come in every thread when i beat you in a debate you change the subject? we were talking about the iraqi war and you changed the subject to china and taiwan. this thread was about drilling in alaska and you changed it to talking about the tsunami relief.
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Postby Jona on Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:41 am

I try not to generalize, and I hope I don't offend any Americans here.

Riot here is the typical example of the uncultured, self-centered US citizen, that doesn't seem to understand there is a world outside his homeland.

It's not his fault, he was taught (conciously or not) to think of his country as the megalomanic empire that runs the planet.
Just like religious people begin to teach their children at an early age the existence of God and their respective religion's moral principles, a big part of the American society encloses their young in a "bubble" called US.

A lot of Americans are aware of their surrounding nations and have respect, never looking down to other countries or cultures.

Let's suppose knowledge is a sphere with a core in its center.
Riot (as a die-hard, boundary-blind patriot), is in the innermost part of the core, so it's very difficult for people to get out once they are in there (if not impossible).
When people are not so convinced of the knowledge they have been imparted, or even don't relate to it, they are at the outermost part of the metaphorical sphere. Therefore it's much easier for them to get out. For example IndyPacers :cool: .

I hope you understand the "knowledge sphere", its a very acurate portrayal of actual human cognitive paterns. I'm very sorry if some guys did not get it because of my crazy english. (N)

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Postby COOLmac© on Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:45 am

and i thought 50 cent did the most cheapest donation for the tsunami relief (j/k) :lol:

to JONA i agree to that post of yours a little bit...i understand your english BTW dont worry...its 80% better off than mine (Y)
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Postby The GOAT on Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:03 am

try 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999...% better.
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Postby Riot on Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:49 pm

What debate? I think we should drill in Alaska. There is no more debate. You think we shouldn't, I think we should. What else is there to talk about? Neither of us will change our opinions on that.

And yes, I am self-centered and I am selfish. That's why I'm joining the miltary :roll:
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