Why did we invade Iraq, Daddy?

[cyanide]

lol, the president is, as somebody quoted, "a moron." He's not exactly the brightest guy, and just because some people don't support the president doesn't make those peopl stupid. A lot of left wing intellectuals make strong points, and just because SNL and the Daily Show make parodies out of it, doesn't make their insights any less valid.

[J@3]

There's a vast difference between being supportive and being patriotic, playing anthems out of your ass is a patriotic thing, not supportive. Although I'm sure George W. appreciates it.

[Riot]

Actually, believe it or not there are things I disagree with from Bush and America. But I think the War on Iraq and the War on Terror is a great thing.

[cyanide]

Actually, believe it or not there are things I disagree with from Bush and America. But I think the War on Iraq and the War on Terror is a great thing.

I think you've been watching too much FoxNEWS.

[The GOAT]

When Riot farts, does anyone else think "Star Spangled Banner" starts playing out of his ass?

Holy shit I got a laugh out of that

[Indy]

riot: if you think al queda is not alive and well, i am sorry to inform you you are wrong. the islamic jihad is a terrorist camp, and it is alive and well. terrorism only exsists in the middle east in the first place because the united states has sponsored terrorism in the area. The U.S gave billions of dollars to al queda and put saddam in power. saying the war on terror is a great thing is incredibly naive. millions of people are dying at the hands of americans for american mistakes.

[The GOAT]

Did you get my PM IndyPacers?

[Riot]

Millions? I don't think US Troops have killed Millions, might want to check that stat.

And America gave money to Afghanistan, it just so happens that money was recieved by one of the head miltary leaders of that time (osama bin laden).

Also, Saddam hasn't always been power-hungry. Way, way back when he started out he was actually pretty reasonable and such, but now he is a dick.

And I don't watch fox news.

ANd I never said Al-Queda is dead. I said America has stopped dozens of terrorist camps, there are still hundreds more. But you have to start somewhere.

[Tuomas]

The things USA does always keep coming back at them. By putting money and weapons into Afganistan in the 80's now seems stupid. And it isn't going to improve USA's reputation in the world, and the wars they're having now isn't going to solve the possible differences between middle east countries and USA.

[Strike Freedom]

i heard that one of the clips bout american beheaded... was a fake one..
it was done by someone else.. but not iraqis themselves...

btw..
if people hate wars that much..
how did Bush get re-elected?

[Matthew]

Exactly. Alot of people respect what george bush has done. I dont give two shits about american politics, but i will say this : The stance he has taken on terrorism is commendable, and the cowards who are uninformed about the state of living in iraq before america went into there should be ashamed of themselves for criticising it. I mean, how dare they go into their and give the people of Iraq a chance at democracy.

[Ataraxia]

Exactly. Alot of people respect what george bush has done. I dont give two shits about american politics, but i will say this : The stance he has taken on terrorism is commendable, and the cowards who are uninformed about the state of living in iraq before america went into there should be ashamed of themselves for criticising it. I mean, how dare they go into their and give the people of Iraq a chance at democracy.

I agree with this....although he should have at least said the reason he was goin to iraq was to stop Saddam instead of blaming weapons of mass dicktruction

anyway.....Bush is prolly the better choice over Kerry.....and no Im not saying this cause of his huge donations to the Tsunami relief......but when reviewing Kerry in a deeper manner hes the most inconsistant of persons while Bush has his policies set....

n yeah its about time someone tried stopping terrorists...although its impossible to stop them all unless every single government helps in the crackdown........but at least hes shown that ppl are not gonna just stand n wait when terrorists threaten them.

[J@3]

John Kerry was a joke. Seriously, that country has hundreds of millions of people and they couldn't come up with anyone better than him?

[Matt]

funny how American has about 250 million people and they end up with George Bush as president.

[Ataraxia]

one flaw is his belief........he lets his belief(religion) get in the way sometimes/most of the time....best ex being Stem Cell research.....this is something that could help the whole of humanity yet he fails to recognise it or support it......

hes also definitely gotta do smth abt gun control....ok guns dont neccesarily kill ppl...but considering the number of crimes/killings that involve a person being shot is hideously high in the US.......course u can compared Canada and say he they got guns too...they dont blast each other n have hood wars....but u cant change a nation...if the ppl of the nation have a fear in them and believe killing someone to stop the fear is the solution u cant stop that...... In general Americans have fear n well hate in their souls....thats why theirs so much of crime.

I mean taking down the access of guns will certaintly help....I mean what kinda of a nation wants to have 13 year old killerz and 16 year old gangsta's/dealerz?

Bush has to stop the massive crime influx in his own country.....yeah the terrorists r out there but hes gotta think of controlling crime in his own land....No one will wanna move to America lookin for a better life....business' will be reluctant to start....n America in the end will loose their global power on finance etc to someone like Australia or China....

anyway.....yeah enuff political postings......my opinions arent gonna help

[cyanide]

lol, I know.. but I think the main difference in the votes are values. I bet most people not only voted out of fear of terrorism, or are war hungry, but over values, since 80% (correct me if I'm wrong) of America are Christians. I'm sure a lot of them just voted for Bush because they don't want to hear about abortions or giving more opportunities to gays and lesbians.

[Strike Freedom]

i heard that ..the reason people voted bush is because.. that.. alot of other countries.. blamed bush for the iraq attack..
and for the americans themselves felt they're offended by those complaints or etc... so in order to proof that they're united... they re-voted Bush...
something like that..

[Riot]

I agree with this....although he should have at least said the reason he was goin to iraq was to stop Saddam instead of blaming weapons of mass dicktruction

As a matter of fact, it technically has been ONE of the main goals from the get go. Obviously, WMDs were the major talk but freeing Iraq and spreading democracy has also been in the plans since the beginning. They were planning on rebuilding Iraq and they even said that in the address to the congress asking permission to go to war.

And the operation in Iraq has always been called "Operation Iraqi Freedom".

[GloveGuy]

John Kerry was a joke. Seriously, that country has hundreds of millions of people and they couldn't come up with anyone better than him?

It's funny knowing that had it been Howard Dean or Wesley Clark as the Democratic Candidate, they would have beaten Bush.

It's true. 98% of Bush's attack on Kerry revolved around indecision and flip-flopping. That's all he had, and that's what cost the Democrats the election.


Also, I don't give a shit about how consistent Bush is because he's only been consistently bad. His views, yeah, they've stayed the same -- but I don't agree with them.

[Indy]

Millions? I don't think US Troops have killed Millions, might want to check that stat.

And America gave money to Afghanistan, it just so happens that money was recieved by one of the head miltary leaders of that time (osama bin laden).

Also, Saddam hasn't always been power-hungry. Way, way back when he started out he was actually pretty reasonable and such, but now he is a dick.

And I don't watch fox news.

ANd I never said Al-Queda is dead. I said America has stopped dozens of terrorist camps, there are still hundreds more. But you have to start somewhere.

American gave money AND weapons not to afghanistan, to the taliban. a corrupt terrorst organization. it didnt just happen to fall into bin laden's hands. The united states sponsored terrorism in the middle east. sorry riot, theres no way around it.

and way back when, yes saddam was power hungry, thats why the us put him in power. they wanted a militaristic dictator to lead the iraqis against the kurds. the us wanted a bad guy in power in order to have the least amount of mercy on the kudish.

name one terrorist camp the US has shut down. they have created more terrorist organiztions to fight against the occupation then they have destroyed.

[Jing]

wow.. thats some reading.

[cyanide]

And the operation in Iraq has always been called "Operation Iraqi Freedom".

When "Operation WMDs" fail, "Operation Iraqi Freedom" always works.

American gave money AND weapons not to afghanistan, to the taliban. a corrupt terrorst organization. it didnt just happen to fall into bin laden's hands. The united states sponsored terrorism in the middle east. sorry riot, theres no way around it.

and way back when, yes saddam was power hungry, thats why the us put him in power. they wanted a militaristic dictator to lead the iraqis against the kurds. the us wanted a bad guy in power in order to have the least amount of mercy on the kudish.

name one terrorist camp the US has shut down. they have created more terrorist organiztions to fight against the occupation then they have destroyed.

I didn't know this, but that's great.

[Matthew]

You applaud that? You have just lost all my respect if you honestly think that shit (if its true, i havent seen any evidence on the sadaam thing..) is a good thing..

[cyanide]

I was applauding at his post. I thought it was a very strong post, especially with, "The united states sponsored terrorism in the middle east." But just for you (CambyMan), I won't believe it's true until I see sources. I wasn't applauding at the information (which is not a good thing), but the quality of his post.

[Indy]

what dont you believe? that the US wanted a militaristic dictator??? come on! this isnt the first time theyve dont this. they overthrew the democratic government in chile and installed dictator pinochet. the helped in the assasination of the democratically elected president diem in south korea and installed a dictatorship!! this should hardly come as a surprise that the united states foriegn policy has never been pro-democracy in any way shape or form.

http://www.alternet.org/story/11592 read that.