U.S okays death penalty to minors!

[Indy]

no person does any bad to the world living their life in prison.

only to those living in the prison world.........like rumbles and gang ups inside prison but hey i didn't say they should be isolated in some chamber alone. rumbles in prison is pretty much what you get the first place for getting your ass in there in the first place .

exactly. thats the point of prison .

[IronMan]

Living in Canada, I can proudly say we're functioning quite well compared to the US without a death penalty.

[Riot]

Kids are fucking stupid. I use to watch power rangers and stuff and I play GTA and stuff and I watch violent movies and shows. I know it's fake and I know it's not real. Kids who kill people then say things like "I saw it on TV and didn't know any better" are just saying that because a lawyer is telling them to do that and it's the only excuse that will get them out of a serious crime.

If a 28 year old watches power rangers then kills his family should be he held to the standard as a kid? Kid's may have lower maturity levels and experience in life in general but you know that KILLING someone is not ok. Parents teach kids not to hurt each other from day 1, kids know that.

I think this is a good thing, if you committ a crime you damn well better pay for it.

[jwill2]

Living in Canada, I can proudly say we're functioning quite well compared to the US without a death penalty.

but you have to remember that the US' policies are quite different than canada's.

but i am for capital punishment.

[Matt]

ah yes, capital punishment....where many innocent get to die...joy!

anyways, no minors should be put to death over killing someone. First off they are not psychologically developed and are easily manipulated. saying that it's common sense doesnt give a case to executing minors. Of course it's common sense but people grow at different speeds and may not know what they are doing. Basically speaking, minors aren't developed enough to take responsibility for their actions.

[Matthew]

Basically speaking, minors aren't developed enough to take responsibility for their actions.

Lol, comming from the guy who can't take responsability for posting under the shep account

[Matt]

i'd take responsibility if i had posted from that account

instead of looking @death penalty americans should look at gun laws first.

[Null17]

who cares about minors, i'm not one anymore so screw them. they can get death penalty all they want

kidding, actually this sucks. i mean, the most minors should get is like life in prison or something. minors who kill people are usually just psychologically fucked up it isn't really their fault so why kill them?

[Eugene]

I just googled it, and apparently, Supreme Court overuled the death penalty for juveniles, saying that it is cruel. I don't have the time now to link anything, but the links on Google are for CNN.com among other reputable sources.

The scary thing is, they overuled it 5-4. That's a lot closer than I want to think about.

Eugene

[cyanide]

Yup, they announced that on the Daily Show as well. Good thing it was overruled.. but didn't know it was 5-4 till you just said it, Eugene!

[Matt]

silly americans just love to kill eachother

[Jona]

For some reason i sort of agree , a crime is a crime , if you are 13 and kill 100 people and if you are 28 and kill 10 people , it doesnt matter , u still kill 100 people. I agree but it should only be used in extreme circumstances , not for a stupid crime.

When you are 13 years old you have no formed criteria in life, you are not a responsable individual according to society, so you shouldn't be punished like one.

[Username123]

You kill u die, if ur small just a smack in the head will do. If your above 18- smack in the head then death penelty. You should be punished for your actions. After watching the movie "Muder by Numbers" i think its right if u get sentenced to death after comminting a murder.

[Doobie]

Ok you guys have convinced me that murder to a minor is wrong , but in my head i still think they deserve life or maybe even death (depending on crime) . But unless they are old enough to think , then it is wrong . We have juss had a hell of a debate people , congrats to all who participated.

[Jona]

You kill u die, if ur small just a smack in the head will do. If your above 18- smack in the head then death penelty. You should be punished for your actions. After watching the movie "Muder by Numbers" i think its right if u get sentenced to death after comminting a murder.

Yeah, let's get ideas for laws as important capital punishment from a motherfuckin Sandra Bullock flick.

[IronMan]

One last thing in this argument. Until you remove all laws that prohibit minors from drinking, smoking, buying lottery tickets, etc., minors should not be subjugated to the death penalty. If your society does not believe they have the maturity or knowledge in life to make simple decisions like that, then obviously they do not have the maturity to know what they are doing in terms of committing murder.

[Username123]

Yeah, let's get ideas for laws as important capital punishment from a motherfuckin Sandra Bullock flick.

What?? we were giving ideas for laws. I thought we jus disscusiing some stuff about ppl killing little kids.

[cyanide]

Ok you guys have convinced me that murder to a minor is wrong , but in my head i still think they deserve life or maybe even death (depending on crime) . But unless they are old enough to think , then it is wrong .

Even old people are not old enough to think, although they should know better. If somebody had been raised angry and vengeful all his life, then that person could be bound to kill someone. There's lunatics out there that are waiting to pull the trigger for the first time. These guys need help, and if they kill somebody, it's a mistake they have committed, and even after that, they need help, but killing them is quicker, cost efficient and makes society less fearful. Such a dilemma.

[COOLmac©]

but killing them is quicker, cost efficient and makes society less fearful. Such a dilemma.

like taking the easy way out

[Matt]

but killing them is quicker, cost efficient and makes society less fearful

im not sure if it is cost efficient....i'd say it costs less to support someone in prison than have them going through costly trials & appeals.

[benji]

They get the appeals regardless...

The scary thing is, they overuled it 5-4. That's a lot closer than I want to think about.

No, the scary thing is that they cited unratified international treaties as justification for doing it. They are circumventing the Constitution to enforce their own personal moral judgements.

Lee Malvo, one of the 2002 Beltway Snipers will no longer recieve the death penalty because he was 17 at the time of the crime.

Other ramifications of the decision:
"By striking down Tuesday the death sentence a Missouri jury had imposed on Christopher Simmons – who was 17 on Sept. 8, 1993, when he broke into Shirley Crook’s house, abducted her and threw her, bound and gagged, into a river – the Supreme Court also canceled the death sentences of 72 others for crimes they committed before turning 18.

One of those inmates, Shermaine Ali Johnson, 26, had been awaiting execution in Virginia for a rape and murder he committed in 1994 at age 16. Virginia law set a minimum death-penalty eligibility age at 16, but that is now unconstitutional."

instead of looking @death penalty americans should look at gun laws first.

The third right given in the Bill of Rights is the right to own a gun, third, right after the right to peaceably assemble and petition the Government for a redress of grievances. This right was specifically proscribed so that Government can never take it away. There is no right to free speech in the Constitution, because it is a natural right, and man can never strip natural rights for they are endowed by the Creator. (Jefferson's words, not mine.) Thus, it was needed to create and protect the right to bear arms in the Constitution, for it is a man-made right.

[J@3]

It's a man-made right, but does that necessarily mean it's a good thing?

[NNpF]

I'm really tired right now and I don't feel like typing too much, so I will just say what I have to say.

I don't see why the death penalty even exists anymore...As I said, I'm not going into depth, maybe tomorrow .

[Alcoholic]

Just wait till the 1st minor gets executed, and we'll see what the world thinks..

[Waz]

well that wont happen coz the supreme court voted against it 5-4 which was already stated above by Eugene