Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

where did you get the cena part from? I'd be very interested in finding that out.

Because Cena started getting his chance because he has mic skills. Santino got a hell of a chance when he became IC champ on his first match as a planted fan. Turns out he was suited more as a comedic heel. And he's doing a good job at it. And as Andrew said, there's no need to change that for now as he's not that good in the ring. But yes there are a lot of big stiffs who just get a bigger chance based on their size. But I also prefer my champs to be good on the mic and in the ring.

fair enough.
you really think santino is not a good wrestler? I have no idea what he can do, because his matches are too short to get a good idea of his capabilities.

I wouldn't say he's Khali-like but at the same time he doesn't strike me as an upper midcard talent and certainly not a main event calibre gimmick or worker, at least at this stage of his career. I really think his current role suits him for now but who knows, perhaps he'll move on to bigger and better things. That's the thing, he's good enough on the mike to sell his character so well that he remains over even though the character is more of a glorified jobber.

it would be nice to see him possibly moved from raw so that he can have something other than 1 minute matches. if you would ask me if I rather have santino or mike knox in a more prominent role, it would be the former. santino by the way is the only one in the wwe who properly sells an atomic drop.

I'd rather neither in a prominent role but I'd agree that Santino's gimmick and performance is much better than Knox's generic brute heel schtick.

anyone else get annoyed by the fake bass in the voices of shawn michels and tripple h?

You sure do have a lot of random thoughts in mind. They get to do that because they're meant to look and sound like tough guys. Even Undertaker does that. This past Smackdown, 'Taker's speaking like his biker persona, and lost the 'Deadman Bass.' if you'd like to call it that way.

taker always changed his voice. I don't mind if he does it. but with hbk and tripple h it sounds weird. at least to me. and it's not really random. it's triggered by what I am watching usually.

I can't say I notice it to the point of being annoyed or distracted by it but what did bother me a little was the end of Smackdown last week. It was a pretty great segment as far as making Orton look like a psycopath and it got the job done furthering the angle but I thought it was kind of rich how long it took three men to beat the hell out of HHH and leave him lying in the ring. And even then, he only sold it as being a bit out of it, collapsing a bit every now and then but still conscious and trying to get at Orton. I mean, people complain about Cena's Superman booking but HHH benefits greatly from never looking totally prone or out of it too.

Whoa, shit's getting pretty intense between Orton and HHH

Best times so far. Angles are getting really amazing as the cards build up.

And... meh, Cena is at the center of the WrestleMania XXV Wallpaper(even at the Raw XV Soundtrack album, he's at the center, while Bret, Stone Cold, 'Taker, HBK is beside him).

Cena getting inserted into the WHC match was a bit contrived though. I'm not against him being in it per se but the way it happened as a bit heavy handed.

Andrew "Test" Martin is the latest wrestling casualty, having been found dead yesterday; he was only 33. Not many details at the moment but apparently there's no suspicion of foul play.

he used to bone kelly kelly. it was probably his heart giving out from the roids.

no.....shit, Test was one of my favorites back when I watched.....this sucks

His entrance music wasn't bad also. It just keeps repeating his name.

No new details as yet, they probably won't be made available for a while but my first thought was that it's likely substance related.

He looked good on his very short TNA stint a while back. Body-wise I mean. So it might be steroids.

Or past steroid abuse catching up to him, since he did have a Wellness violation during his last run in WWE.

But that would mean he was using in WWE. And after the violation, he requested a release. So he could have been using the entire time up until his death.

(Actually, I don't really wanna argue about that nor do I care. I just feel like typing something. )

Perhaps, but I meant it could've been similar to Eddie Guerrero's passing in that he had gotten clean but his abuse in the past had contributed to problems which finally came to a head. In any case, it's sad that another pro wrestler has had their life cut short. No doubt it will trigger more criticism of the industry and Vince McMahon personally, since everything is supposedly all his fault.

hey game, if you want me to take you serious, try not wearing women's jeans.

shawn micheals is an attention craving drama queen. his popularity is baffling.

I love vickie.

and WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Updated Card for Wrestlemania according to some news sites.
Currelty Edge is expected to drop the title, and I think Big Show has a good chance at winning it. He's from Smackdown, which Cena isn't, plus he's got Vickie on his side now, so that may be a factor.

It would not suprise me if the Tag Titles bout will end in a DQ.
Or even if one team wins it, I think the other team will get their belts back rather quickly. I doubt they will unite the Tag Titles to Undisputed ones



WWE Title Match
Randy Orton vs. Triple H

World Title Match
Big Show vs. John Cena vs. Edge

WWE Intercontinental Title Match
Rey Mysterio vs. JBL

World Tag Team Titles & WWW Tag Team Titles Match
John Morrison & The Miz vs. Primo & Carlito

Brother vs. Brother Match
Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Hardy

25 Divas Battle Royal
Featuring Divas of the past and present, with the winner being crowned Miss WrestleMania

The Streak On The Line
Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker

Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Finlay vs. MVP vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Kane vs. CM Punk vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Mark Henry vs. Christian Cage

Legends Handicap Match
Chris Jericho vs. Jimmy Snuka, Roddy Piper and Ricky Steamboat with Ric Flair and Mickey Rourke at ringside

Actually, the current plan is to unify the tag belts so I'd be surprised if they went with the no-contest there.

Taker/HBK remains the match I'm looking forward to the most, I think it's the one most likely to steal the show from the championship matches and even MITB. I'd expect Taker to win this one as so far they've been building up HBK as never having lost to Taker (I'm not sure about that but he has gone over him a fair few times) and HBK isn't really the person to end the streak as he doesn't need the rub. It seems unlikely they'd end the streak until Taker is ready to retire (if they ever in fact have him lose) and there haven't been any whispers of that in the dirt sheets.

The Divas Battle Royal probably won't be spectacular but there'll be some former names competing with one of them likely winning rather than a current Diva. If you're a WNW Premium Subscriber you'll know but we're not allowed to repost those articles. I don't imagine it'll take up too much time.

Money in the Bank should be a good spotfest as always but Christian is the only one that stands out to me as a likely winner. No one's repeated yet (save for Edge winning it off Kennedy afterwards and that doesn't really count as such), Kofi Kingston isn't really ready, Finlay is really filler, Kane and Mark Henry seem unlikely, Shelton Benjamin never does seem to get that push to the next level and CM Punk won it last year. MVP's another possibility I guess but I'd pick Christian over him.

The Legends Handicap match is actually a bit of a letdown though I've read that other plans fell through leaving them to come up with a backup plan on the fly. Still, having Jericho attack all these legends and then end up facing them in a 3 on 1 seems like an angle we'd see in Smackdown vs RAW. I could see Jericho going over but it seems less likely, for the feud to culminate the legends need to prevail and thus teach his character a lesson in respect, if nothing else 1 going over 3 is a bit too unlikely even in professional wrestling. Better that Jericho takes a fall against three legends than Mickey Rourke. Kind of a shame we won't see Ric Flair wrestle but you certainly have to respect that he's sticking by his retirement in an industry where so many retire over and over again. I wouldn't mind if he did come out of retirement but I think it's very classy that he's choosing not to and it shows how much respect he has for the business.

Supposedly the tag titles are going to be unified so as I said someone should be going over in this one. It depends on whether they want to push Morrison and Miz as singles wrestlers and I could see them doing that, certainly as far as Morrison is concerned. However, they've been really good as a tag team so I don't know, neither scenario seems more likely. In that respect they certainly could go for a no-contest but I don't think it's as likely, I think you need your fair share of heels going over at Wrestlemania so in that regard I lean towards Miz and Morrison unifying the belts and continuing on as a team for a while longer.

The match between the Hardys should also be one of the best on the card, I'm not that confident in a pick though. It would make sense for either to go over, Jeff having been screwed over by Matt for the last couple of months beginning at the Royal Rumble and to further fuel Matt's anger and jealousy/resentment. However, having the heel win does prolong the feud and Jeff getting revenge at Wrestlemania seems too predictable and could kill some of the heat on the angle. Again, you need a few heels to go over at Wrestlemania and in that respect Matt seems a bit more likely to come out on top with a dirty finish.

JBL/Rey for the IC title depends on the truth to the rumours that JBL could be retiring again soon. I like Rey's chances of going over but it depends on how many other titles change hands, how much longer JBL is going to be around and where else heels go over. I could see a dirty finish or no-contest in this one so that someone can go over without the other person having been pinned or forced to submit. I'm very much split on this one, though with my other predictions I might go with JBL.

The major title matches are tough to pick as well as Wrestlemania tradition and the likelihood of the individual scenarios in both matches don't necessarily go hand in hand. If history is anything to go by, Cena and HHH are the most likely to walk out as the champions and honestly, I could see that happening. Cena strikes me as very likely to go over in the WHC match, he's been screwed over a couple of times by Edge and Vickie Guerrero and he is the face...well, moreso than Big Show and Edge, anyway. He's my pick at this time.

Orton/HHH is a little harder, with what Orton has done it points to HHH finally getting revenge and retaining but it just feels like there's a swerve coming somewhere, possibly with Vince returning and turning heel again. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense but then neither have a few other things in this angle, that's pro wrestling for you. Orton is also incredibly over as a heel and if Cena wins the WHC match then there's a good chance they balance it out with Orton winning this one. Still, I don't know...I want to say HHH but it's tough to pick against Orton too. I think no matter which way I go on this one, the opposite will end up happening. The likelihood of a swerve and Cena winning the WHC match have me kind of leaning towards Orton. That would mean the angle would be likely to continue beyond Wrestlemania which seems plausible, so right now I'll go with Orton.

Of course, there are a few shows left before Wrestlemania and as we all know the show before the event often telegraphs the result with the person getting the last word on TV ending up taking the fall on the PPV.

Actually, the current plan is to unify the tag belts so I'd be surprised if they went with the no-contest there.

I didn't know that, that kinda suprises me, I never thought they'd do that. I mean Smackdown even got its own Women's title.
I'm pretty sure M&M will win it then. They have been pushed as far as tag team can be pushed.

MITB should be good again. I can't really decide between Christian, MVP and Benjamin. If you think of it, the winner will get a main event push within the year, but might as well be put back to midcard wrestling, as they did with CM Punk. I think all of the aforementioned would deserve it, but I too think they might go with Christian.

HHH/Orton is indeed a tough one to predict. It's hard to bet against Triple H. If Orton wins, then certainly not through a clean pinfall.
Vince coming back and turning on HHH is the most likely variation. (Plus I think they want to keep up the ratio of Royal Rumple winners also winning at Mania)

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense but then neither have a few other things in this angle, that's pro wrestling for you.

It really doesn't, but I read somewhere one reason would be that Vince wanted Randy to take him out, so his family would go after Orton. Vince would have known Orton would take them out too, and now he has his show back and as result he's running RAW along with Legacy.

That'd be a pretty bad angle if you ask me, especially since this would be quite sadistic, wanting somebody to take out his family. Guess we have to wait and see.

My early picks FTW:
Orton, Cena, JBL, Matt, Taker, Miz & Morrison, Christian, Legends.
As for the Diva Battle Royal, i have no idea, might give it to Mae Young.