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Just notice, I like Taker "rocker" theme that his "deadman" because he is showy to the public. BTW Andrew nice videos you got there. Cena's not yet in his full body form back then.

Just notice, I like Taker "rocker" theme that his "deadman" because he is showy to the public.

Deadman beats about anything ever done by any wrestler

I remember the 2nd video where Undertaker puts a steel chair on Randy's neck then Triple H helped Randy. Then at the end of that night Undertaker beat up Triple H with a chair and I was really pissed off and I want to kill Taker. I was just like 8 years old when I watched that.

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Bad Ass Undertaker days, I love those bikes.

The biker gimmick was good while it lasted but I think the current hybrid between the American Badass and his character circa 1997 has been working out pretty well since the "comeback" at Wrestlemania 20.

Me too, it's like all of his characters put into one, well except for the bike of course.

That video you posted about 'Taker defending the Undisputed Championship against Orton made me miss the old belt design.

I just hope that when Triple H wins it they bring it back to that design.

I'd like that too but like the brand split, I've pretty much come to accept it. It doesn't seem like it's going anywhere anytime soon.

If it wasn't for Cena that belt design wouldn't change

The final decision to change the belt design or retain it even after Cena's first run with the title wouldn't have been his to make though. Even if he had a hand in creating the design to suit his character, it wouldn't be his call to keep the design or change it in the first place, even if it was his suggestion.

Stone Cold Sharkboy is lame compared to Giiilbeeerg!

It seems Cena hasn't discovered fulltime steroids in that video and Orton doesn't look slim or fat compared to what he looks like now.

I'd take advantage and bring up Hogan's new wrestling project, which he claims will be an exciting alternative to the current product (presumably both WWE and TNA) which the Hulkster has deemed "boring". Of course, it should be noted that he's also been trying to get involved in Wrestlemania 24 and/or the Hall of Fame ceremony so he's obviously aware people are watching which would grant him a spotlight were he involved in the proceedings.

you know after my original post i did not open this thread til today so i just saw this reply lol. anyway i never heard of hogan trying to start a new wrestling project. does it look like it will happen or just a pipe dream?

Apparently it's going to more of a reality show, a cross between WWE's Tough Enough and shows like "So you think you can dance?" where people who want to break into the business are trained to be wrestlers. I don't think it will be more compelling than the regular wrestling product, even if the two main promotions do have their issues.

Wrestlemania XXIV just days away, will the annual NLSC Wrestlemania Predictions article be around this year?

I wasn't planning on doing an article but I'll post my predictions here.

WWE Championship Match: Randy Orton (c) vs John Cena vs Triple H

I'd be inclined to pick Cena but since he won't be on the road fulltime owing to the fact he'll be shooting a movie for WWE films, I'm going with HHH, who will probably feud with Cena once he's back fulltime and perhaps drop the title to him later this year. Orton retaining would be a freshly surprising twist, but I don't see it happening.

Winner: Triple H

World Heavyweight Championship Match: Edge (c) vs The Undertaker

Supposedly they're going to redo the plan from last year with Taker getting his long reign before hanging up his boots. Edge has been prevailing in typical heelish fashion and although anything can change up until the event, I'll believe the rumours that Taker's winning streak isn't going to end anytime soon and he'll walk out the champion.

Winner: The Undertaker

Money in the Bank Ladder Match, featuring Mr Kennedy, Shelton Benjamin, Chris Jericho, Carlito, MVP, CM Punk and John Morrison

I think we can safely rule out anyone from ECW. It would be a fine way to elevate them but I don't think Punk, Morrison or Benjamin are going to be making a fulltime jump to either of the main brands at this time. Kennedy seems likely but that would make it two years in a row. Jericho would make sense but he's already a guy who can move into the main event scene fairly effortlessly due to the fact he's established and a former world champion. Carlito seems unlikely, I don't see him ever going much higher than the midcard in WWE.

That leaves MVP, a star on the rise whose character could use a guaranteed title shot to jump into the thick of the title picture once he's at that level. Kennedy is in the same boat but I'd be a bit surprised if they made him a two time winner, even if their original plans did go awry.

Rumour has it that Matt Hardy will be a surprise entrant and I'd love to see that happen and for him to get a title shot, but I'm not holding my breath.

Winner: MVP

Floyd Mayweather vs The Big Show

I still think this will be a monumental disappointed. I, for one, will be disappointed if there's no chants of "We want wrestling!" during this one. I know, it's Wrestlemania and it's special and "sacred" in its own way but this angle is destined to be a tremendous flop, from the awful pre-taped promo to the fact that Mayweather is not a pro wrestler and Show, while in better shape and hardly a Great Khali, isn't a worker who can make this...work. No reason to do this, and I don't think it will pay off as the WWE hopes.

As far as the match goes, Mayweather is in the guest celebrity role, which means he's going over. He'll "knock out" Show, win the match, the angle will bomb and the McMahons will scratch their heads and wonder why.

Winner: Floyd Mayweather

Umaga vs Batista

Tough call. Win or lose, it would allow Umaga to segue nicely into a jump to Smackdown. Since this is a battle for "brand supremacy", it would seem likely that RAW's representative will be the one to go over but with Umaga being the choice of a (more or less) heel general manager going up against a lone face from Smackdown in Batista, I'm picking the Samoan Bulldozer to lose this one to the Animal, leading to him being fired from RAW and moving over to Smackdown, where he can feud with Batista and The Undertaker.

Winner: Batista

Playboy BunnyMania Lumberjack match: Maria & Ashley vs Beth Phoenix & Melina

It's odd how a segment that will feature scantily clad women could fail to be enthralling but that's the WWE Women's Division for you. Things peaked in 2006 with Trish Stratus and Mickie James because we had two women who were attractive, could wrestle and had an unusually well-booked angle in their favour. Anyway, Maria's in Playboy so she's going over, perhaps setting up a small feud with the Glamazon.

Winner: Maria & Ashley

Belfast Brawl: Finlay vs JBL

Good thing it's a brawl so it can get away with being, in the words of JR, "bowling shoe ugly". I'm assuming this will be the blow off for the feud so it would make more sense for Finlay to win this one but I can't entirely shake the feeling that JBL will walk out with his hand raised. Nevertheless, I'll pick Finlay.

Winner: Finlay

ECW Championship match: Chavo Guerrero vs TBD

Punk and Morrison seem like the people most suited to be ECW champion right now and since they're not involved in the battle royal to be "TBD" in this one, I'm picking Chavo to retain against whomever.

Winner: Chavo Guerrero

WWE Championship Match: Randy Orton (c) vs John Cena vs Triple H

God who cares? This is what's wrong with the WWE, Orton is quality, Cena is a nobody and HHH should've been bumped from the title picture a long while ago. They have mis-managed every single guy in the federation who had the potential to step up and be given the championship, now they're left with the same three guys over and over.

Winner: No one.

World Heavyweight Championship Match: Edge (c) vs The Undertaker

I like Edge, another one who they are destroying by the minute. From having him in a "relationship" with that disgusting Vicky woman to his little minions who are pointless and annoying. The Undertaker should be in the match above IMO, I'd rather see him than HHH or Cena. If they had done the right thing by Edge and not turned him into a joke, I'd be fine with him ending the Undertakers unbeaten streak. He wont though.

Winner: Undertaker

Money in the Bank Ladder Match, featuring Mr Kennedy, Shelton Benjamin, Chris Jericho, Carlito, MVP, CM Punk and John Morrison

They should re-name this to "Talent Who Could've Been Great But We Fucked It Up Somewhere Along The Way... Oops". Every single one of those guys (except MVP... what on Earth is that guy supposed to be?) could've been better than they are in the WWE if managed properly...

Jericho came back and faded into oblivion, Benjamin has been stuffed around more than anyone, Mr Kennedy has the most ridiculous gimmick and is an obvious waste of talent, Carlito spits apple at people... seriously... CM Punk is shit on the mic so I guess he doesn't count. Morrison as Johnny Nitro was one of the more promising guys I'd seen in the WWE for years, alas, he's now a tag team wrestler. Awesome.

Winner: John Cena and HHH

Floyd Mayweather vs The Big Show

This is one of the most retarded things I've ever seen. The Big Show is playing the heel, yet Mayweather is an arrogant little shit who everyone hates... I know Mayweather is going to knock him out but I think Big Show would get a bigger pop for flattening him. Awell.

Winner: Mayweather's body guard... he has one that's about the same size as the Big Show

Umaga vs Batista

This match reminds me of when I used to play Extreme Warfare Revenge (a wrestling sim)... I'd book a card then think "shit, I've got to book one more match but there's only like 4 wrestlers left"... so I'd just pick 2 guys and throw them together randomly. Batista is the Chris Jericho of Smackdown, Umaga is ... I dont know, he just seems to turn up and wrestle nobodies for 30 seconds. Ooo, scary. Bring back Jamal and Rosey.

Winner: Extreme Warfare Revenge

Belfast Brawl: Finlay vs JBL

Probably the only match on the entire card that a) makes sense, b) has potential and c) has actually had a half decent build-up. I can see Finlay winning, the heels have "won" every week on RAW so far so obviously it'll be a turnaround at the PPV.

Winner: Finlay


ECW Championship match: Chavo Guerrero vs TBD

RIP, ECW. Would it kill them to throw a handfull of money at RVD to come back and give this title some credibility? Who in their right mind would see two of the best singles prospects in the ECW (Morrison and Miz) fighting as a tag team? I'd say the Miz will win the battle royal thing and probably win the championship.

Winner: Certainly not me.

Rant over. The more I watch wrestling the more it annoys me how badly it's being managed on-screen.

That sums everything up quite nicely.

Umaga vs Batista

This match reminds me of when I used to play Extreme Warfare Revenge (a wrestling sim)... I'd book a card then think "shit, I've got to book one more match but there's only like 4 wrestlers left"... so I'd just pick 2 guys and throw them together randomly. Batista is the Chris Jericho of Smackdown, Umaga is ... I dont know, he just seems to turn up and wrestle nobodies for 30 seconds. Ooo, scary. Bring back Jamal and Rosey.

I know what you mean, it's very much a "let's get these guys on the show somehow" kind of match. I've done the same thing in SDvRAW's GM Mode.

RIP, ECW. Would it kill them to throw a handfull of money at RVD to come back and give this title some credibility? Who in their right mind would see two of the best singles prospects in the ECW (Morrison and Miz) fighting as a tag team? I'd say the Miz will win the battle royal thing and probably win the championship.

I'd pick RVD over any ECW guys. I felt quite disappointed that his RAW appearance last December was just for that show. If ever he returns, let it be on ECW and let him have the title.

Yeah his RAW appearance just reminded me of how cool he was. Even his music is good

Even his signature move his cool. I saw your predictions and found out that it didn't have the Flair vs HBK match.

Oh yeah, I forgot it. I can't see HBK being the one to end his career, it seems a bit too random to me. I think they'll pick someone more significant to Flair and his career.

If HBK/Flair isn't going to be Flair's last match then the timing isn't right. Whatever the card may be like year to year, of all the WWE's PPVs Wrestlemania has the most history and the most mystique so while Flair prevailing on such a grand stage would be special, his subsequent retirement at a "lesser" show would be a bit anti-climactic.

HHH/Flair might have been better because there's some more history there with Evolution but aside from HHH being in the title picture, they already used up that match on television.

I'd pick RVD over any ECW guys. I felt quite disappointed that his RAW appearance last December was just for that show. If ever he returns, let it be on ECW and let him have the title.

Getting RVD for anything more than an appearance here or there seems easier said than done though. Supposedly he's enjoying his time away from the ring and doesn't want to work the WWE schedule as he's grown weary of being on the road, which is understandable. The WWE can be as enthusiastic as they want about signing him but if he's not interested in a fulltime return there's not much they can do.

I bet that even if Flair wins at Wrestlemania, he'd grab the mic, thank all the fans and then subsequently retire the same night.

On second thought, they might pit in Hogan vs. Flair sometime after Wrestlemania.

Yeah his RAW appearance just reminded me of how cool he was. Even his music is good

Yeah, I thought it was by Marilyn Manson.

I bet that even if Flair wins at Wrestlemania, he'd grab the mic, thank all the fans and then subsequently retire the same night.

Seems a bit unlikley to me, since it was just some months ago when he said that he's never going to retire.


I really hope Taker wins the WHC. I'm getting sick of Edge and his storyline with Vicky.

I just thought, how about if Edge gets disqualified and The Undertaker wins it, so his streak stays alive and Edge remains the Champ?!
For myself it'd be a suitable scenario, with Edge having all the might - Vicky - on his side.

I've thought about both of those scenarios and I don't think either is unlikely. Ending his career with a loss might seem a bit of a downer but that's the way it's traditionally been done and I can't imagine Ric Flair would be against doing things the old school way. I can see him making a speech after the match or at least having a moment with the crowd but having him prevail over HBK and then retiring anyway wouldn't make much sense.

Edge's retaining by DQ is certainly possible and would allow the feud to continue with Edge as the champion and Taker's streak intact but I don't think they'll go down that route. By this point, Edge has already had the upper hand due to his kayfabe relationship with Vickie and has screwed Taker over a couple of times already by interfering in the Survivor Series title match, stealing the victory at Armageddon and preventing the Undertaker from gaining a title shot at the Rumble. It's about the time in a feud like this where the challenger finally comes out on top.

Having seen Smackdown this week, I'm wondering if Taker's streak will indeed be broken. He kind of had the "last word" posing in the ring as the show ended which would usually mean he's doing the job at the PPV. Still, it seems unlikely,

[spoiler]especially since all the spoilers I've read point to him winning the title and keeping the streak intact. No disrespect to Edge, but I'd certainly prefer if those spoilers are true.[/spoiler]

Anyway, I still plan on getting the PPV. I usually only buy a couple a year anyway and Wrestlemania is always one of them.