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Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:45 pm

I went to the WWE Supershow (RAW/SD both recorded in one night) on Monday, it was a real fun expereicne.

Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:31 pm

Cool. Did you take a sign or get on camera at all?

Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:00 pm

get any pics?
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Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:52 pm

i know, double posting, but whoopdeedo. lance storm has put his wrestlemania predictions up on his website.

Lance Storm wrote:Chris Benoit vs. JBL: I’m going with Benoit here as I have too many other title changes and they won’t switch all the belts on one show. I also think it could open the show and I like a happy start to a show.


I'm not too sure about JBL jobbing in two consecutive pay-per-views, but other than that small point there I do see Benoit retaining.

Booker T vs. The Boogie Man: I don’t see them beating Boogey Man so if there is a finish I’ll go with Boogie Man but I’m calling a non-finish.


Well, we know it'll be a squash however it ends. I reckon the boogeyman'll get it though.

Kane & Show vs. Carlito & Masters: I’ve got to go with Master and Carlito in this one. The champs have killed everyone including these guys in the past so the only way to make this anything but a pointless squash is to switch the titles. I see Carlito and Masters pulling a huge screw job win and then playing arguing partners as champs in the future.


I know the result of this match already, so no comment.

Lingerie Pillow Fight: Does it matter? Val and I got bumped as tag champs off Mania 19 for the Miller Light girls and now MNM (The SD MVPs, and the best tag team in the industry, in my opinion) are off the show and this match gets on. This is a travesty.


Agree with storm. come to think of it, I dont even know who's in this one.

Trish vs. Mickie James: I’m so glad this match got on the show, when they announced the pillow fight I was afraid this one got bumped. I was going to go with Mickie in this one but following the same logic as the Benoit match I’m going to say Trish retains. Trish may not win but I’m predicting she retains the title somehow.


Disagree. Trish has had it for too long. Mickie for this one.

Taker vs. Mark Henry: Taker all the way. I don’t see the Dead Man losing his Mania streak to Mark Henry.


Sorry, but i have to pick mark henry here. when was the last time the wwe did the right thing by someone?

Edge vs. Mick Foley: I’ve got to go with Edge on this one. Edge has more in ring years left and needs to be protected more than Mick, and Mick has always be a pro in the past so I see him doing the honors.


Foley will win this one. In the leadup they've been talking about foley never having that one defining wrestlemania moment. this year will be it.

HBK vs. Vince: I’m going with HBK. It just doesn’t make sense any other way. HBK is one of the best performers ever and a multiple time world champ he should not be losing to a 61-year old non-wrestler, regardless how big and in shape he is. I think this will also be a WAY better match than most predict. Vince while not a wrestler is a great performer and you know they will pull out all the stops in this one.


I could copy and paste storm's comment here, but i cant be stuffed.

Money in the Bank: I’m going with RVD in this one. I’d like to pick a SD guy because that show could use the push of having a SD guy win, but with who I’m predicting as SD champ it just doesn’t make sense. I think RVD is both due and deserving of winning this match, and moving on to a Title shot.


Again, I agree. Although i'm not picking the same champ as storm, but rvd still, for the mitb.

HHH vs. Cena: This is such a forgone conclusion in everyone’s mind it would be great to swerve everyone and have Cena retain but I don’t see it happening. I see win number 11 for HHH. The only way they could keep in on Cena (IMO) would be to turn him but that would leave HHH as a face, which I don’t see either.


Again, i know the result, so no comment.

Angle vs. Orton vs. Mysterio: Up until a day or two ago I was going with Angle. I know a lot of people are thinking Orton, but I figured there were too many title changes already on the show, which is why I was leaning to Angle retaining. There has been some mainstream press of late on Rey and the fact he could be the smallest Heavy Weight champ in history. Vince loves mainstream press and Rey winning could generate a lot more of it. Add to that POD playing his theme live at Mania and they could make this one big special night for Rey. Close the show with a VERY over baby face win, and ride any press that comes of it. He could also dedicate the win to Eddie and make it a double touching night. You want a WrestleMania moment this is it!!!!!


Orton. All the way.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:45 pm

Guess I'll post my updated predictions too. :)

Chris Benoit vs JBL - Chris Benoit. The way Benoit is used is almost criminal. Ditto for JBL but for different reasons.

Booker T vs Boogeyman - Booker T. Boogeyman has been getting the upper hand most of the time. Another squash match here would be a huge mistake. You know, he'll probably win but I really hope he doesn't. So foolishly, I'll go with Booker T.

Money in the Bank - RVD is a very solid pick, but personally I'm going to go with Lashley. Mind you, the writers do seem to have forgotten about his potential and are making him look a lot more vunerable. Giving him a guaranteed title shot to be used sometime after he's built up a character and continued to improve in the ring (in addition to just being strong and looking imposing) could definitely work out.

Undertaker vs Mark Henry - Undertaker. A biased pick, but the fact remains Taker is very protective of his streak and has enough backstage influence to keep it intact. I'll be very disappointed if the World's Sweatiest Man is the one to break his streak, rather than an up and coming main eventer (Orton last year), a dominant big wrestler (Kane, twice) a legend (Flair) or a handicap match (Big Show/A-Train).

Torrie Wilson vs Candice Michelle - We the fans win really. I pick Candice Michelle to officially win this one though.

Trish Stratus vs Mickie James - I'm torn, but it would seem to make sense if Mickie James takes the title here. Surprisingly, the women's division has been one of the best booked parts of RAW these past few months and the standard of wrestling - in addition to the T&A factor - has been consistently decent, even good. It won't be a long match but I think it'll be good.

Edge vs Mick Foley - Even though I have a gut feeling Edge will continue his own undefeated streak, I'd love to see Mick Foley get his Wrestlemania moment and prevail in the type of match he made famous. If HBK can be made to job to Hogan, then Edge can drop one to Foley. I'm going with the Hardcore Legend.

Kane/Big Show vs Masters/Carlito - Looks like it's the youth's time to shine. Kane/Big Show have run their course with the tag belts, more chance of them being defended by the likes of Masters and Carlito.

HBK vs Mr McMahon - Has to be HBK. He's been jobbing for the past couple of months as McMahon replays the crooked boss storyline for the umpteenth time. It's time for him to prevail. If Bret Hart gets involved in a run-in as some have suggested, this one will be great for the moment alone. But I'm not holding my breath. Would love to see it happen though.

HHH vs Cena - Tough choice as to which one I want to see. Either we see the HHH Show again or Cena continues a reign with an iffy crowd reaction. Looks like HHH will gain the strap though.

Angle vs Orton vs Mysterio - Angle could very well retain, that's a realistic scenario. Orton's been pushed heavily these past 12 months and protected well even in losses. But the feel good story belongs to Mysterio and if a heel is going to capture the other title, I think you need a strong face to close out Wrestlemania. So I'm going with Mysterio. But it will be a brief reign, I imagine.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:58 pm

Im predicting: Benoit, Boogeyman, Lashley (He should be the 'franchise guy' of wwe), Taker, Who cares about pillow fights, Mickie James (i like her wrestling abilities, even if its a copy of Stratus), Foley :headbang: , Masters and Carlito (fave wrestlers), HBK ( has to be), HHH and Mysterio.

Too lazy explaining but its most likely the reasons posted above me.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:58 pm

andrew, you can stop holding your breath about bret hart (admit it, you were):

Source: Wrestlezone

www.calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2006/0 ... 5-sun.html

There is a great Bret Hart interview up at the Slam! Wrestling website where he reveals his WrestleMania 22 plans.

Bret says that he will NOT be appearing at the WrestleMania 22 PPV event and says he knows Vince and WWE will try to convince him otherwise this weekend.

On being inducted into the Hall of Fame, he noted "I think a lot of it is a sign of good faith, I don't think either of us has ever really forgiven, but Vince and I have made peace to a certain extent."

Hart says he will be flying out of Chicago on Sunday morning, before the PPV.

Hart notes that WWE sent him a contract to appear and that he did not sign it and was not being paid to appear.

Hart also says that if he sees Shawn Michaels at the Hall of Fame ceremony he will walk out, get back into his cab, and head right back to where he came from. "I've basically told them that if I see Shawn, I'll get back in a cab and go straight to the airport. They'll have to get him to do my induction speech. I just feel that there's too much anger for me. Too combustible."

Hart also says that the Hall of Fame ceremony is simply a chance to say goodbye to the fans and give his wrestling career closure.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:07 pm

That's a shame. I was hoping he'd at least make an appearance on the ramp with the other inductees but I guess that's out as well. Hopefully HBK stays away then, though that's a shame. Good thing they've got Ted Dibiase inducting Sensational Sherri.

Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:05 pm

Mine is Benoit, Booker, RVD, Taker, Candice, Mickie, Edge, Carlito Masters, HBK, HHH and Angle.

Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:35 am

im going with. JBL, Boogeyman,RVD, Mark Henry, the pillow fight will be a win/win no matter whos in it. gotta love them divas in there bra and panties. , Mick Foley, Carlito and Masters, Vince will take out HBK, HHH and Mysterio will win the title. (Y)

Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:35 pm

RAW review/comments:

After that first segment with Foley and Edge, it looks as though Edge is going to go over at Wrestlemania; Foley's had the last word every time and this is the last RAW before the event. That's a shame. I know he's the active wrestler, he's got an undefeated streak going and everything...but every time they bring Foley back, it's just to job. And that's a shame.

Entertaining segment following the Kane/Carlito match. But again, pretty obvious Carlito & Masters are likely to go over at WM.

Very good idea to split up HHH and Cena rather than make the ending really obvious and having one get the final word. Also works for the HBK/Vince storyline though I think HBK getting beaten again confirms a WM win. I'd be disappointed if they have Vince go over at WM.

MITB promo segment was solid as well. As if there was any doubt, Ric Flair gets to go over in the segment which should definitely confirm he won't be walking out with the MITB title shot. RVD and Shelton Benjamin...hard to pick between those two, but I don't think they're winning it. The Cena/HHH feud is probably going to last a few months and while MITB lasts 12 months (and they did wait 8 months with Edge) I think it's more likely they'll have a Smackdown guy get into the title picture...most likely Lashley. But this was a nice build from the RAW perspective.

Spirit Squad vs Val Venis, Viscera and Eugene...decent enough match, but the Spirit Squad gimmick hasn't grown on me and probably won't. The wrestlers themselves are good performers in the ring but it's just one of those gimmicks they have to suffer through before moving up (think "Deacon Batista" during the early months of the brand split). This one could be hard to overcome though.

The promo with Mickie James suitably advanced her character's heel turn and development as a full-on psycho. The women's tag match was par for the course these days. Decent performance from the two that aren't really wrestlers and the usual appeal of hot women and revealing outfits. Again, no outcome was blatantly hinted because Mickie James wasn't involved but Trish got the pinfall victory so there's a good chance she'll drop the belt at WM.

And finally, part two of the final RAW main events build, with all four men involved again. I have to retract what I wrote earlier (I compiled this during the commercial breaks), I think they've gone the usual route after all. I know what the Backlash promos are saying, but HHH just had the final word against Cena and that usually means he won't be going over at the PPV. Likewise, they were able to tidily allow McMahon to get the last say with HBK. Looks like they're both going over now.

As for the McMahon/Cena match, it was about what you'd expect; Vinnie Mac feeding his ego by looking half decent against one of the major champions. Nevertheless good show, good final lead-up to Wrestlemania from the RAW perspective.

Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:33 am

Just finished watching RAW, man the Spirit Squad is annoying, they can't even do their cheers together properly. They're not in sync. Most of the matches are boring. Carlito continues to improve in the ring IMO. I like the Cena HHH vignettes especially the HHH one. Mickie's promo was pretty cool. Torrie had hard nipples :mrgreen: Damn, Cena/McMahon was boring as expected.

Ok, end of my blabbering

Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:59 pm

Andrew wrote:RAW review/comments:

I think HBK getting beaten again confirms a WM win. I'd be disappointed if they have Vince go over at WM.



i had this mentality too until i reflected back to last year between HBK and kurt angle. during the build up to the feud, HBK only had the upper hand once where he invaded smackdown and jumped angle by pretending to be a security guard. other than that though, he had his ass handed to him almost every week either physically (post streetfight vs. edge), vocally (kurt mocking hbk's music), and other (beating jannetty, the ladder match). i'm rooting for HBK to win, but i can't say i'll be surprised if vince wins.

Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:36 pm

I see where you're coming from but I reckon at this point of the story it's HBK's time to turn the tables. It just seems unlikely that they'll have Vince go over with HBK jobbing to the Spirit Squad, Vince and Shane (twice).

There's a good chance I'm wrong in all my predictions after seeing RAW, but these days the WWE follows that formula a lot. They don't do much to change it up or surprise people who pick up on the trends.

Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:41 pm

i'm still pissed that they wasted HBK's talent at a wrestlemania vs. a 61 year old ego maniac. HBK himself isn't getting any younger.. i would've loved to see him face off against the undertaker, or maybe even JBL.

had eddie guerrero not passed away i think he may have been HBK's opponent this year. i have a feeling he was supposed to be the one that was going to pin HBK @ survivor series

Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:19 am

I have a feeling WM will suck this year. The only thing the keeps me interested is the fact that I want to see how both main events will end

Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:26 am

the ladder match sould be okay. im sure benoit can have a good match, he always does. the smackdown main event will be good, but the raw one will suck. i know who wins, and i really couldnt care less for the actual match. but im buying this one, its the only ppv i buy all year, its going straight on tape, then inside my custom DVD cover. see, i do use them.

and for those saying the fans win the playboy match--how exactly? id much rather see MNM than those two. if i wanted to see that sort of crap i could type "porn" into google. i watch wrestlemania to see wrestling matches.

Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:32 am

I'm more excited about the next Impact and the Lockdown PPV than WM. 8 cool matches that are all in a cage plus another mystery man coming to Sting's aid is gonna be cool

Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:42 am

Impact has maybe 6 good stars and a bunch of washups and nobody's. its WCW without ted turners wallet

Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:12 pm

Lol. Checkout the X Division. It's actually better than 75% of the WWE roster. Just ignore the WCW has beens and you have a great fed with actual wrestling (well a lot are spotfests but still better than WWE's and I like high spots) and no crappy WWE storylines (although just a few, they storylines are actually quite interesting). You have the best highflyers, good hardcore matches every month or so, great or at least solid Heavyweight Matches and they tag team division actually means something. Of course the weekly shows have been a little lacking lately but that's because they only have one hour a week to show everything but the pay-per-views are great.

Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:13 pm

i was just watching the wrestlemania press conference, and HBK came up..
the idiot fans started chanting "YOU SCREWED BRET"
is anyone else sick of this? this just shows the pure idiocy of a lot of smarks. everyone has moved on except for these douchebags. i don't know if they chant it to garner attention or what not, but it's retarded and they should move on.

bret hart should stop his bitching too, "waaah waaah if i see shawn in the hall of fame i'm going to take a cab home " .. shut the fuck up. you're a grown man.

Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:14 pm

j.23 wrote:i'm still pissed that they wasted HBK's talent at a wrestlemania vs. a 61 year old ego maniac. HBK himself isn't getting any younger.. i would've loved to see him face off against the undertaker, or maybe even JBL.

had eddie guerrero not passed away i think he may have been HBK's opponent this year. i have a feeling he was supposed to be the one that was going to pin HBK @ survivor series


That's the rumour floating around at the moment, that it was meant to be HBK vs Eddie Guerrero at WM 22. It's also been suggested that the McMahon/Michaels storyline is one of those "never before seen HBK matches" that they're trying to get done before he calls it a day and that it's something Vince and HBK want to do given their close relationship behind the scenes. I personally don't doubt that's true, only that it's a good idea.

koberulz wrote:and for those saying the fans win the playboy match--how exactly? id much rather see MNM than those two. if i wanted to see that sort of crap i could type "porn" into google. i watch wrestlemania to see wrestling matches.


You're right, but it won't last very long and it's still women in skimpy outfits which is what wrestling has become (or at least a portion of the product). I'd rather see that kind of gimmick than Big Show in sumo gear as we did last year, given the choice.

It's also a suitably tongue-in-cheek way of saying the winner of the match is inconsequential.

j.23 wrote:i was just watching the wrestlemania press conference, and HBK came up..
the idiot fans started chanting "YOU SCREWED BRET"
is anyone else sick of this? this just shows the pure idiocy of a lot of smarks. everyone has moved on except for these douchebags. i don't know if they chant it to garner attention or what not, but it's retarded and they should move on.

bret hart should stop his bitching too, "waaah waaah if i see shawn in the hall of fame i'm going to take a cab home " .. shut the fuck up. you're a grown man.


Yeah, the "You Screwed Bret!" chances are getting a bit passe but of course McMahon continues to reference them, in the whole setup for his feud with HBK and with the sharpshooter at the end of the match at SNME. So he won't let it die as much as the smarks.

I kind of agree about Bret Hart as well. He has softened his stance in a lot of areas (obviously, if he's going to appear at the HOF ceremony) and he certainly has his pride but I thought that was a bit much when I read that. I guess it's about doing this on his terms but the WWE has been very accomodating and I think have done a lot to try and mend the bridge and honour him and so forth. Even though a lot of people will disagree, I think he'll some respect if he no-shows. I know they'll be the excitement of "OMG he screwed McMahon!!1!1!!1!! REVENGE!!1!!!!" from some but really, two wrongs don't make a right and by stooping to that level he'd be doing himself and the fans more of a disservice than sticking by some "principles" and never doing anything for WWE again.

And of course, some great news...JR back at ringside for the night! I think SNME proved that he's not done, that it was premature to change the guard before properly breaking the new guy in (JR is supposedly going to be working with Joey Styles to help him fit the WWE mold) and most of all...it shows more respect for the man and his character than last year's awful angle involving the half-hearted Linda heel turn.

Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:27 pm

i hope ric flair doesnt take a really crazy bump this sunday. i always cringe everytime i see him take a backdrop, it just doesnt look right. i wonder what shelton has in store this year.. the way he scaled the ladder last year was ridiculous :shock:

Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:21 pm

looks like mysterios going over.

Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:00 pm

j.23 wrote:i hope ric flair doesnt take a really crazy bump this sunday. i always cringe everytime i see him take a backdrop, it just doesnt look right. i wonder what shelton has in store this year.. the way he scaled the ladder last year was ridiculous :shock:


He'll be busted open for sure though. No one blades quite like the Nature Boy.

koberulz wrote:looks like mysterios going over.


I hope so. It needn't be a long reign, just a moment at Wrestlemania and a couple of successful defenses.
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