Lebanon/Israel

There are actually very large numbers of Jewish people who are against Israel because they're aware of the atrocities Israel has committed.

What Jews? I happen to work and live near a lot of Jews and they are all for Israel.

First off, let me apologize for being so harsh to you. I thought you were quoting me from my rant on Islam and I did not read that thread. I just read it and I found out that I misquoted myself. I'm sorry.

thats my fault too, i was reallly rude to you and i apologize for calling you a redneck and whatever else i said, and you have the right to your own opinion


sry dude

There are actually very large numbers of Jewish people who are against Israel because they're aware of the atrocities Israel has committed.

What Jews? I happen to work and live near a lot of Jews and they are all for Israel.

Oh my god, just because Jews in your area agree with Israel doesn't mean it's the same everywhere. They are not robots.

Can I give you some examples of why I think Hezbollah is anti-Jew? Just recently, Hezbollah randomly launched a missile into northern Israel and killed two Arab children. Nasrallah apologized and called them "martyrs for the nation". However, he has not apologized for the other innocent lives killed because they are Jewish. Simple as that.

Israel is killing civilians in Lebanon, do you think they apologized. If they did then I don't think they learned from their mistakes. An apology can not be accepted more than once, and Israel keeps killing civilians. As for Nasrallah saying they are the "martyrs for the nation", well in Islam the word "Martyrs" is usually used for Muslims.

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HEzbullah cant be all bad, they are helping people out with voluntary work...

Has anyone heard of the Reuters case? A Lebanese photographer has been fired for editing photographs which he did in order to spark upraised compassion. And that's not the only thing they do to achieve pitifulness. They also feign peculiar scenarios for photographs that evidently do not exist.

Has anyone heard of the Reuters case? A Lebanese photographer has been fired for editing photographs which he did in order to spark upraised compassion. And that's not the only thing they do to achieve pitifulness. They also feign peculiar scenarios for photographs that evidently do not exist.

That is very common. I read in The Toronto Star that many journalists that went to Afghanistan showed how the American soldiers were under attack, but in reality civilians were payed to just shoot around so they can film it and play it off as something else. So its very common to see this, but it should be stopped to see the actual truth.

Everybody who is reading this topic, watch this video, I know its kinda long, but it is a must see... Just stick with me, watch the whole thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wdwk1dp-uU

Has anyone heard of the Reuters case? A Lebanese photographer has been fired for editing photographs which he did in order to spark upraised compassion. And that's not the only thing they do to achieve pitifulness. They also feign peculiar scenarios for photographs that evidently do not exist.

Have you actually seen the photographs? The differences are almost indistinguishable. And I'm sure he's not the first, nor will he be the last to do it.

You're trying to justify that as well? Geeze..

You're trying to justify that as well? Geeze..

LOL, I'm not trying to justify anything. I'm saying that it's not a huge scandal as he's making it out to be.

You're trying to justify that as well? Geeze..

LOL, I'm not trying to justify anything. I'm saying that it's not a huge scandal as he's making it out to be.

I actually think it's a pretty big scandel. Making up photographs and putting them in your paper? That's pretty low.

You're trying to justify that as well? Geeze..

LOL, I'm not trying to justify anything. I'm saying that it's not a huge scandal as he's making it out to be.

I actually think it's a pretty big scandel. Making up photographs and putting them in your paper? That's pretty low.

You're right, Riot. It's huge. I'm going to write to my Congressman right now...

he's making it out to be.

No, I am not.

On Saturday, Across form the White House, there was an anti-war rally, wiht many speakers, about 10000 people, relatively small, but making a point. i attended it and we had a march down dc... although some christians came out with signs saying that "muhammad is a false prophet", when the rally had nothing to do with religion

anyway, did anyone else hear about this?

You realize rallies do absolutely nothing?

tell that to martin luther king.

King had a nationwide movement of millions that achieved nothing until he gained political power. He also stood on the side of liberalism (until he suddenly shifted from civil rights to "anti-poverty" during which he lost all of his political standing and his life...) unlike those at this rally AmoAttack attended.

The anti-war rallies are small gatherings of hippies, anti-liberalists from all walks, and idiots unknowningly (or maybe knowingly) protesting in favor of an enemy that respects none of the things ("womens rights", seperation of church and state, homosexuality acceptance for example) they claim to stand for and would slaughter them for attempting anything similar.

They're useful idiots. Just like those who have supported anti-liberalists forever, from progressives, to the Nazi supporters, to the Communists, and now to the Islamist defenders.

They get their disastrious victories (Prohibition, The Holocaust, Vietnam and the other 100 million killed by Communism, undermining approval for many necessary campaigns) but they're always swept into the dust bin of history.

I hope they join those instead of being glorified like the Vietnam protesters (who have the blood of millions on their hands) or thrown in with King or the "founding fathers".

I hope they join those instead of being glorified like the Vietnam protesters (who have the blood of millions on their hands) or thrown in with King or the "founding fathers".

Why you think that when Lebonese are suffering, its not the same as when Vietnamese are suffering?

And, for your knowledge, the rally was completely peaceful, so dont go out and make assumptions with proper knowledge of what happened

They're useful idiots. Just like those who have supported anti-liberalists forever, from progressives, to the Nazi supporters, to the Communists, and now to the Islamist defenders.

Your comparing us to Nazis? What the hell is your problem? Have you no shame?

The Nazi Supporters were fierce, brutal, unmerciful, and hated the jews for no apparent reason

we dont hate the jews... we are angry at the state of Israel because their response to the Hezbullah attacks was completely out of order... and they are killing way more civilians than they are soldiers, hezbullah on the other hand has killed more soldiers than civilians, and that is fact.

He also stood on the side of liberalism (until he suddenly shifted from civil rights to "anti-poverty" during which he lost all of his political standing and his life...) unlike those at this rally AmoAttack attended.

All were doing is standing on the side of justice, because Israels attacks are way too much...

You think were supporting Hezbullah, were not, hezbullah isnt right either...

How the damn hell would you know, you wrent even at the rally, yet you make assumptions about it...

You realize rallies do absolutely nothing?

it can cause more people in the public to be more open minded

Apparently someone at the rally stole your reading comprehension.

Why you think that when Lebonese are suffering, its not the same as when Vietnamese are suffering?

I don't even know what that's supposed to mean, as I didn't say anything even remotely similar to this concept. I think the Lebanese people suffering under murderous barbarians such as Hezbollah, Syria and Iran is quite similar to the Communist barbarians that dominated Indochina. I also hope both peoples are freed and welcomed into the list of liberal societies.

And, for your knowledge, the rally was completely peaceful, so dont go out and make assumptions with proper knowledge of what happened

Well, considering I never even said or assumed anything about there being violence in the rallies, I don't know why you'd rush to deny it happened? Perhaps you interpreted the blood on the hands of Vietnam protesters as refering to the fact that many of those protests wound up in violence. But that would be wrong. Instead I was stating how the Vietnam protesters have been glorified when their actions and assistance from their like in the media led to a withdrawl from Indiochina that led to two million being butchered by the Communists.

Your comparing us to Nazis? What the hell is your problem? Have you no shame?

The Nazi Supporters were fierce, brutal, unmerciful, and hated the jews for no apparent reason

hezbullah on the other hand has killed more soldiers than civilians, and that is fact.

First of all, Hezbollah has killed countless more civilians than soldiers, as when Islamists run up against western militaries they lose. So they kill civilians instead like say by firing rockets randomly into cities.

I didn't compare you to Nazi's. I stated that those who are being useful idiots for the Islamists are cut from the same cloth and are often the same people that supported the Nazi's and Communists in years past. I'm sure you'd find many of those protesters hate Jews quite a bit and would like if Israel was erased from the earth.

Nazi supporters that I'm speaking of were not "fierce, brutal, unmerciful" as there were millions of peaceful pro-Nazi rallies across the world in the 30s.

I mean you stated you find Israel attemping to eliminate Hezbollah as out of order. Sounds like you find no problem in the existance of Hezbollah. And do find a problem in eliminating Islamist terrorist groups.

All were doing is standing on the side of justice, because Israels attacks are way too much...

You think were supporting Hezbullah, were not, hezbullah isnt right either...

You are supporting Hezbollah by not desiring their elimination. Justice is eliminating those barbarians and not allowing them to continue directly and intentionally slaughtering innocents.

How the damn hell would you know, you wrent even at the rally, yet you make assumptions about it...

Fine, then let's play that game. You aren't in Israel or Lebanon so how the "damn hell" do you know what's going on?

Former Attorney General Ramsey Clark drew cheers when he called for President Bush's impeachment.

The fact that Ramsey Clark was there is all anyone needs to know about what kind of people were behind this rally.

The guy is defending Saddam Hussein for darkosakes, let alone all the digusting things from his past. He's directly involved in supporting a barbarian. Not just indirectly doing it like you and the other "5000" people at this anti-liberalist rally.

Hell, A.N.S.W.E.R. was one of the sponsors and they've merely supported and/or continue to support North Korea, Slobodan Milosevic, the Chinese at Tiananmen Square, Iran, Hussein, narco-gangsters of Colombia and Hamas.

Hezbullah is not fighting a terroristic battle, they are doing nothing but defending their country from the Israel government...

Israel is simply attacking Lebanon with no real knowledge of where the Hezbullah fighters are, because of the reason that Hezbullah are ordinary people who are fighting for ajust cause, and that is to defend themselves from a terroristic nation by the name of Israel. Hezbullah is supported by almost every citizen of the state of Lebanon. They feel more safe with Hezbullah defending them than they do with Israel supposedly "liberating" them.

And you're all mad at Syria and Iran for supplying weapons to Hezbullah, when the US is doing the same exact thing. The United States is giving Israel bombs and ammo for the purpose of killing innocent civilians. Period.

Hezbullah is not fighting a terroristic battle, they are doing nothing but defending their country

Hezbollah is a wing of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

Hezbullah is not fighting a terroristic battle, they are doing nothing but defending their country from the Israel government...

Israel is simply attacking Lebanon with no real knowledge of where the Hezbullah fighters are, because of the reason that Hezbullah are ordinary people who are fighting for ajust cause, and that is to defend themselves from a terroristic nation by the name of Israel. Hezbullah is supported by almost every citizen of the state of Lebanon. They feel more safe with Hezbullah defending them than they do with Israel supposedly "liberating" them.

And you're all mad at Syria and Iran for supplying weapons to Hezbullah, when the US is doing the same exact thing. The United States is giving Israel bombs and ammo for the purpose of killing innocent civilians. Period.

I've been at NLSC for 8 years, have seen the likes of such retards as Shane, Matt and Arvin post, but I have never seen a post quite that bad. You seriously sound like Arafat in his "glory" P.L.O. days. You sound brainwashed, and yet you say rallies "open people's minds".

But lets break down your post point by point, becuase I'm bored.

Hezbullah is not fighting a terroristic battle, they are doing nothing but defending their country from the Israel government...

Defending their country hey? If you say Hezbollah is a part of Lebanon, then you are calling Lebanon a terrorist state. Try to think rationally for a minute: Why would Israel go into Hezbollah if there wasn't a legitimate threat? Don't reply to that until you have thought about it..

Israel is simply attacking Lebanon with no real knowledge of where the Hezbullah fighters are, because of the reason that Hezbullah are ordinary people who are fighting for ajust cause, and that is to defend themselves from a terroristic nation by the name of Israel.

You paint a pretty picture for people who target civllians and use civillans as human shields. The reason for the "high" casualty rate is the aforementioned use of human sheilds by hezbollah "fighters". If they were true fighters, they would wear army uniforms and not hide like a bunch of females in apartment blocks.

Hezbullah is supported by almost every citizen of the state of Lebanon.

Yeah that explains why they had a civil war for 20 + years. Oh wait they wouldn't have said that in your rally would they? "But lets pretend we have a more open mind about this then people who think the other way..."

The bottom line is Hezbollah is just as hated by every peace loving Arab in the world. This is just a chance for people to show their irrational anti jewish feelings and criticise isreal for the sake of it.

They feel more safe with Hezbullah defending them than they do with Israel supposedly "liberating" them.

This is about Isreal defending itself. They aren't going in there to liberate Lebannon.

And you're all mad at Syria and Iran for supplying weapons to Hezbullah, when the US is doing the same exact thing.

The US isnt supplying wapons to hezbollah

The United States is giving Israel bombs and ammo for the purpose of killing innocent civilians. Period.

You sound very Canadian/ European with that statement.

Matthew, your argument is nearly as bad as Amoattack's. I've repeated this crap over and over again, but one more time couldn't hurt.

Defending their country hey? If you say Hezbollah is a part of Lebanon, then you are calling Lebanon a terrorist state. Try to think rationally for a minute: Why would Israel go into Hezbollah if there wasn't a legitimate threat? Don't reply to that until you have thought about it..

Hmm...maybe because Israel is as hell-bent as the United States is on trying to spread "democracy". And Hezbollah IS a part of Lebanon. They have members in the government.

You paint a pretty picture for people who target civllians and use civillans as human shields. The reason for the "high" casualty rate is the aforementioned use of human sheilds by hezbollah "fighters". If they were true fighters, they would wear army uniforms and not hide like a bunch of females in apartment blocks.

LOL. You keep trying to justify unnecessary civilian deaths by using the human-shields theory. That's the point; this war could have been avoided.

And your whole "if they were true fighters" sentence is truly recidulous. Israel would be fighting in trench-coats too without the billions in "aid" (US tax-payers money) they recieve. Kinda sad how they can't defeat a guerilla group even with all the superior technology they have.

The bottom line is Hezbollah is just as hated by every peace loving Arab in the world. This is just a chance for people to show their irrational anti jewish feelings and criticise isreal for the sake of it.

Right...most every Muslim and CHRISTIAN in Lebanon support Hezbollah. Anti-Jewish has nothing to do with it. It's anti-Zionist. Do you hear Nasrallah calling for the defeat of Jews in his speeches?

You sound very Canadian/ European with that statement.

It's cool how you said that instead of making a real reply to his totally valid statement about how the US supplies weapons to Israel (more weapons which are more advanced in technology than Hezbollah's) to kill innocent civilians.