Our Generation

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Our Generation

Postby Ruff Ryder on Tue May 09, 2006 8:39 am

Well since some of the newer threads are focusing around our generation, I don't mean to steal the thunder, but seriously, let's get an in-depth discussion on our generation.

Our generation honestly is one of the worst ever imo. Sure, technology is great, but like any good thing, it is used negatively. As Jackal said, a typical teenager could go to google and find porn in 3 seconds. And there's no real way of blocking it. My school has this thing called surfcontrol, and not only does that block porn, it blocks mostly everything. Doing research is hard as hell because everything's blocked, even stuff that shouldn't be. It's almost bad enough to say that the internet is a drug. Like most drugs, it's main purpose was to aid the user, but then it gets abused. It's hard to find legit places to interact with like here. Not to mention most people aren't looking for them either. And I'd venture to say that most computer users these days are teens and young adults. Most of our parents probably couldn't turn a computer on, and they weren't ever faced with the same temptations as us.

Parents

They just don't know how to relate to us these days. They never went through the same kind of stuff that we do. So it's hard for them to bring us up properly. They never give us the "talks" that we need. Sure, a few people I know are straight because their parents got to them at the right times, but most of the time when they feel its time for the "birds and bees" talks, we've already had sex. :lol: Honestly, by the time I was in 5th grade (10-11 years old) I already knew what an orgasm was, why "I lost my balls" is funny, what a dick was, all the curse words, and all kinds of stuff. Our parents hesitate in a movie where the actor says the "F" word where we go to school and here it in every other sentence. Sure the school system is week, but parents are supposed to be the primary teachers.

And it doesn't help us that most of us don't strive for a deep relationship with our parents. Most of us are more comfortable talking about stuff with people we go to school with rather than our own parents! So they don't know everything we go through either. And we lie like mad dogs too. "I'm going over to Bob's house to study." And when you're there you smoke weed and drink.


Sex


Premarital sex is skyrocketing. Nobody seems to realize the concequenses of it, and are usually unaware of it because of the lack of education they receive about it. HIV and STDs are spreading like crazy and society/the media says that being a "virgin" is not cool. "Hahaha, you're a virgin? LMAO!!! You've never done it?? AHAHA!! ROFL! OMFGWTFLMAOROFLBBQ!!!!1111oneone11!!" They don't realize that sex is more than physical contact. There is emotional and it's easy for a guy to bang it and bag it, but (just like everything else) it's different for a woman. Remember, we're supposed to treat women like queens but when we go around fuckin em and duckin em, we give them a crummy reputation and that's on us.

Society/The Media

Yup, everyone wants to put the blame here, and I'd say 90% of it is their fault. I know kids that were drunk before they were teenagers. Cigarrette ads, Alcohol ads, hell even Condom ads are all focused on our generation. Not adults but teens and young adults. And I'm sure most of you guys have had all these presentations in your schools about this and that, but seriously, it is a major problem. And they don't give any real disclaimer other than a semi-transparent small type at the bottom of the TV screen that nobody reads. Plus it's not hard to obtain it either because most of our parents do it. So you could easily walk to the fridge and grab a beer. Plus most of the media's parties and stuff happens either on the beach or at night or in a party atmosphere inside, usually at night. Which may have something to do with 15 year olds trying to have a nightlife. And it's a shame because nobody really enforces the rules against it. I know Officer Riot would probably clean them up, but that's only one guy out of 100. It's almost like basketball. Sure, scoring points is the goal but you gotta do the little things. You have to box out, you have to get rebounds, you have to set picks. So in real life you have to stop kids from just smoking a cigarette which will eventually lead to them becoming a weed addict. And the public service announcements and positive messages on TV pail in comparison to the negative ones. It would help if someone like Snoop Dogg got on stage and said "Hey, don't smoke weed" but he'd never do it and since people want to be like him and it seems the whole world encourages it, why not?

And this kinda stuff brings up the rate of suicides and low self-esteem. There's nothing worse than picking up "Seventeen" magazine and seeing these models in there and realizing that you don't look like that. Dammit, everyone is beautiful in his or her own way. (except Dennis Rodman and Jugs. ;) ) And nobody tells them that and it's difficult to be around people that will tell you that when your own parents don't realize that you need that and you sure as hell don't help them out on that issue either. Then we have anarexic teenagers that won't eat because they weigh over 100 lbs. I don't know about you guys, but I like a little meat on my bones (well, not Dre Naismith style :P But I kinda admire guys that like big women because it kinda evens out the rest of the world.) But anyway, most teens realize that they aren't Frankie Muniz or Lindsay Lohan and do nothing but sulk all day. And they don't do anything to help themselves either.

School/Education

If I'm correct, a student drops out of school every 9 seconds. That's an astounding rate. And these kids grow up to be street trash and give places-Like America!-very bad reputations. It doesn't take a genius to pass school. All it takes is effort. For some reason, kids think that everything will be spoonfed to them. Well, open your fucking eyes! When you get into the REAL WORLD you don't just get hired and get paid $100,000 a year to watch TV and put Cheerios in alphabetical order. High School is just a drop in the pond compared to some of the real stuff. Honestly, I could graduate this year if I chose to(I'm a Junior) because I've taken enough classes to get a diploma. It's not hard to get a basic education. You don't get that much homework and there's nothing difficult about identifying "Education" as a noun. All school requires is a TINY bit of effort. People are just too lazy these days.

But it's not all of our fault. The education system isn't as good as it used to be. Alot of the points and stuff is warped. Someone said it here before. Sure, Hitler is known for the Holocaust and his final solution but nobody teaches how he united Germany. There's always two sides to everything, but we're never taught the second side. And alot of the reason is that our teachers aren't really qualified for the job. For instance, I have a 24 year old AP History teacher who is fresh out of college and was never good with dates so she never made us learn them. What do ya know? We get the state AP History exam (80 questions, 3 essays) and have diahrrea on it. I already know I failed it and I don't even have to see my score. I know more about my teacher's personal history than I know about American history. And since she doesn't "do dates" we lack alot of common history sense. It would be alot easier to answer alot of questions when you can put stuff in chronological order.

And that brings me to common sense. I was blessed with a 4th grade teacher (actually my Aunt lol) who probably made everyone in my class better people in the future. She was like one of those black women you see in the movies lol. Big, talks alot, knows a little somethin about cooking, etc. Her number one saying was "CHS: COMMON HORSE SENSE" When we'd talk to her, we had to say "ma'am, thank you, please, excuse me, pardon me" etc. No "uh-huh, yea, what?" or anything like that. And one thing my little sister lacks is common sense. Unfortunately, after receiving numerous teacher of the year awards after 30 some years teaching, she retired the year before my little sister hit 4th grade. And lack of common sense is amazing. You see people that make you just shake your head. I'm gonna leave it at that because I could go on for hours on common sense.

Another thing about school and common sense is that school doesn't teach you how to think for yourself anymore. Everything they feed you is facts and formulas. The people that excel in school with straight A+s or whatever you other countries give/get are the people that reason and can think for themself. It's hard to be taught to think though.

Ok, I conclude my post...for now because I've been typing for an hour and I don't put this much effor into my essays. (I know, that one's on me.) But there's alot more I could say and I'll get to it eventually after a few replies here. Let's get some quality discussion going around here. (Y)
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Postby Jackal on Tue May 09, 2006 10:50 am

That's a very good attempt at quality topic. It was a pleasant and welcome read after many many mistake laden one liners. (Not by you.)

Anyways, on to the post.

They just don't know how to relate to us these days.


I agree with that comment to a certain extent.

First let me start off with my own parents, I have little to no contact with my father as of late & am quite content without his influence of stupidity in my life. My mom has always had an active role in my life and she's brought me up (seemingly) well. I respect my elders at all costs & if you respect me, I respect you back.

My mom also gave me enough room to develop for myself. She knows I could flip out & get into a tussle with someone who doesn't show me the respect I expect from that person, she knows that, she doesn't applaud it, but she knows that's the way I am. You show respect & you'll receive respect, that's how she brought us up.

As I said, I agree with your statement to a certain extent, todays parents are tired, weary and quite confused. Tired & weary due to the overload of work & confused due to their children's weird behaviour. This emo bullshit, I myself don't get it, I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like to a parent. To a certain extent I do blame parents for letting their kids get out of hand, but on the other hand I blame society, we've tolerated kids like those emo kids and those gangbangers, we've accepted them & placed them in their own little category and now everyone is just free to join.

I've always been upfront with my mom, as have my sisters. She bestowed us with her trust & we just couldn't bring ourself to breaking that trust. The way you are brought up, the ideals you are taught play a huge factor in the way you turn out to be as an adult or young adult.

Premarital sex, can't say I'm against it. Let's not kid ourselves, sex is wonderful. You talk about women should be treated like queens, I disagree. Certain women should be treated like queens. The woman who becomes my wife will be treated as a queen, my mom is treated like a queen, the one I'm totally head over heels for will be treated as a queen. If a random girl who has big tits & a nice round ass decides she wants to rub up against my crotch, I'm not going to stop her & tell her she should behave like a princess. That's the parents' job. If she feels she needs to get laid, I'll lay her.

Pretty much agree with the Media bit.

School systems have lost interest in kids. The larger part of the teachers have little to no hope for the kids. The interest in the kids isn't there. A good example of how the teacher/pupil relationship is, is to be seen in 187 with Sam L. Jackson, not many teachers give a rats ass these days, it's a job, you get paid & you go home. Why take on some kid's problems? It is the parents' job they say.
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Postby J@3 on Tue May 09, 2006 11:04 am

Sweet jesus that's a long post :lol: (Y)

You raise some good points, I think the difference now between people our age and people from say 1920 for instance is that we all strive to meet our own ideal, whereas they were forced to become someone elses ideal. The amount of personal freedom we're given is probably too much now, it's all well and good to be free to pick and choose what you wear, what you do, how you talk etc but at some point it can actually become degenerative to not only yourself but to other people. Emo kids, I mean what exactly is gained from walking around in black clothes, wearing make-up and talking about how much you hate life? It can be applied to alot of different groups, but emo is the big trend at the moment.

I'd like to know teen suicide rates from like 1920-50 compared to now. I'm guessing it wouldn't even be close. Society these days is focused around telling us we're not good enough, but not actually telling us what to do to make ourselves good enough... so instead we're left to our own devices and end up confused with no "real" interests apart from the ones you try to latch onto. I think a bit more effort should be used to differentiate between what is obtainable and what isn't... if you see some make-up or whatever being advertised by a Brazilian supermodel, it really shouldn't be made to look like that's what you can obtain by using this product. For girls I mean, I don't use much makeup :lol:

As far as parents go, my mum relates to me pretty well by basically letting me do my own thing. It doesn't work for everyone, but I think I'm a fairly capable human and I'm fairly confident of my own self. My dad is another story, he hasn't been around much and still sort of treats me like I'm 13. You notice the difference but it's not that big of a deal.

Don't even get me started on teachers, they pretty much ruined my education before it began. I had a great teacher for my first year... my second year though it all went down hill. I got sick and missed alot of days when they covered basic maths, but she refused to teach me what I had missed since it wouldn't be fair to the other kids. It wasn't until year 10 when the whole maths thing actually clicked with me, I had averaged about 30% on my maths exams before that point and I blame her for not teaching me the basics. I had to teach myself.

I remember this reading competition they had, you had to read a certain amount of books in a certain amount of time to win some prize, for some reason I loved reading (not kid books, I read the Jurassic Park novel when I was 5) so I got to it and finished all of the things I had to read in three weeks, which was like 6 months early. She refused to accept my entry because again it wouldn't be fair on the other kids, and I ended up losing to some guy who shit his pants three times in the next 4 years. Teachers have no idea how much power they have at an early age, it's too bad most of them don't use it properly.
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Postby Jing on Tue May 09, 2006 11:12 am

man, nlsc is getting much and much more.. philosophical?
seems like we are doing a lot more thinking and stuff. which is good (Y)
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Postby hipn on Tue May 09, 2006 11:14 am

Very good points in that post! Very good points.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying.
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Tue May 09, 2006 11:20 am

Jackal wrote:Premarital sex, can't say I'm against it. Let's not kid ourselves, sex is wonderful. You talk about women should be treated like queens, I disagree. Certain women should be treated like queens. The woman who becomes my wife will be treated as a queen, my mom is treated like a queen, the one I'm totally head over heels for will be treated as a queen. If a random girl who has big tits & a nice round ass decides she wants to rub up against my crotch, I'm not going to stop her & tell her she should behave like a princess. That's the parents' job. If she feels she needs to get laid, I'll lay her.

Well I guess my opinion on that goes with my Christian upbringing, but I'm not gonna try to force a religion battle again, so I'll leave it at that. It's just that I've heard married adults (mid 20s, 30s) say that they regretted dating while they were younger and regretted having sex too. They said there's nothing like guilt free sex (sex when you're married. I know someone will be like "WTF? I never feel guilty after a bang a broad. :cheeky:

(OT) I'll also say that even though I don't really like officer Riot I'll respect him for the fact that he makes an effort to be involved in his community and with politics. Most kids here couldn't tell you who the 2nd President of the US was, and Riot over here knows why George Bush chose a steak over a hamburger for lunch. :P

But life is decisions. That's as simple as it gets. Sure people are like 'OMG this is sooo hard, I can't do it' but honestly, if you go all the way back to the 2 decisions you have to make, it makes deciding that much easier. Who am I benefitting? What are the consequences? That's what I don't get about emo kids. They don't ever seem to think that simply about stuff. "My life sucks, I'm gonna slit my wrists." It's not like they're improving their rep. Then when they go to school and rumors spread about them, it's not their fault.

And LMAO at the end of Jae's post. I woulda bitch slapped her. "Not fair to the other kids??? What about fair to me??
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Postby Jackal on Tue May 09, 2006 11:27 am

:lol: Anything longer than one line & it's "philosophical". Amazing.
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Postby Jing on Tue May 09, 2006 11:45 am

Jackal wrote::lol: Anything longer than one line & it's "philosophical". Amazing.


nah man, but look at all these "deep thinking" topics and stuff, its pretty cool too see it on a nba live forum, thats all.
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Postby R.J. on Tue May 09, 2006 12:05 pm

Most kids here couldn't tell you who the 2nd President of the United States was


John Adams. Next? :lol:
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Postby BIG GREEN on Tue May 09, 2006 12:20 pm

google much?
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Postby Colin on Tue May 09, 2006 12:29 pm

Ryan. wrote:
Most kids here couldn't tell you who the 2nd President of the United States was


John Adams. Next? :lol:

Yeah wikipedia sure is great...

On our generation, we definitely have the most problems that any generation has faced before us. But is it our fault?

I think today's generation of kids may prove to be the first in a long line of 'guinea pig' generations. What I'm saying here is that there is so much innovation and constant upgrading that by the time any two people are raising kids, the way they grew up is obsolete. "When I was your age..." no longer means anything, as in 20 years the environment for a child to grow up in changes drastically. Parents can no longer tell their kids the best way to do something, and therefore really teach them about life, and that leaves kids feeling kind of helpless. Many just crumple up and give up.

However, the fact that anybody that does make it through this giant test will have had to learn for themselves and make their own path, may just lead to some of the smartest people we have ever seen. But the gap between smart and dumb may be growing.

Another thing about school and common sense is that school doesn't teach you how to think for yourself anymore. Everything they feed you is facts and formulas. The people that excel in school with straight A+s or whatever you other countries give/get are the people that reason and can think for themself. It's hard to be taught to think though.

One thing I've noticed about that topic. Some of the 'smartest' people in my school are conversationally handicapped. They're really not very smart or intelligent people, just talented regurguitators who study for hours. My whole study-style is to make sure everything makes sense for me, not just to memorize things. If things make sense then the neccessary study time is so much less. I still am forced to memorize a bunch of stuff. I mean how else would I know that the polarizability of some common atoms goes in this order: B,S>P,H>C,S,I>Br>N,Cl>O>F?
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Postby Cable on Tue May 09, 2006 1:07 pm

Wow, Jing is right. Good stuff people. (Y)

I said it in another of these threads, and I'll say it again. If you don't put the effort in and behave like a retard, fuck you, it's your own damn fault. I'm a believer in learning the hard way (probably because that's how I learned), so if it takes getting 25 years in jail to change your views, so be it. I'm extremely happy that my parents brought me up the way they did. I'd much rather spend time with a truly good person than someone who can make me popular. All of my friends are like that, they're people who you can bring home with you and your parents will embrace, and vice versa. I put the effort in to be a good person, I get rewarded with a happy and successful life that I'd do over again in a second.

About education, TBD's got it exactly. Thinking for yourself (see: don't put the effort in, fuck you) is the best quality you can have school-wise. Our generation's idea of school is to teach everyone the same thing, and expect the results same from everyone. I think that we should be taught based on what we want to do. I don't have a stat, but I'd bet that everyone does best in the subject they like the most. Somewhat related to that is they way teachers teach. Not everyone learns the same way, so it's useless to teach everyone the same way and expect the same results. Some people are geniuses in their own right, but you'd never know it because they fail to succeed when taught like everyone else.
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Postby Jugs on Tue May 09, 2006 4:06 pm

People have become lazy in Education, myself have, I barely do any study, I just remember things and then I do a test and pass. Boring I know but I've already sort of planned what I want to do for my last 2 years in High School and sorta what I want to do in University.

My Parents are pretty alright people, I've considered them old fashioned because they don't let me go some places, but I've realized that they're actually doing the right thing. My mother sort of encouraged me to have sex :? she told me to make sure to use a condom. Anyways, my parents and I respect each other and I get rewarded. I'm afraid for my sister though, she's already taking 'emo' pictures of herself (weird angled self-pictures) etc and she's only 12. Ah well.
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Postby Andrew on Tue May 09, 2006 5:13 pm

I don't know if it's fair to call the current generation the worst ever. Perhaps morals have become more relaxed, people have become more hedonistic and there are certainly ills in today's society but it's not as though previous generations have enjoyed a quaint, innocent upbringing as films set in days gone by sometimes suggest. Pre-marital sex is hardly new to our generation, it's just that these days seldom covered up by quick marriages to conform to social standards.

Let's avoid war, because chances are as long as man exists war will exist too and who knows what will happen when our generation finds themselves in positions of power. But think of some of the changing attitudes that our generation has adopted.

It may be a generalisation but I think our generation is more aware of racism and that it is wrong. Not everyone feels that way of course and political correctness goes too far sometimes but we do tend to be more tolerant and understanding of a multicultural society. Stereotypes still exist but we are aware of racial perseuction. For that matter, we're more aware of other discrimination too and even if political correctness sometimes feels like a misguided endeavour we tend accept the idea that stereostypes are not to be trusted and discrimination is wrong.

My mother worked as a legal secretary for some 20 years before I was born and was actually fired when she was pregnant with my older brother because she missed two days due to illness and was told she was obviously unfit to work and she lost her job. She later got it back and they pretended it never happened, insisting that she had quit the job. Such a practice would never be allowed to happen today, any legal firm that attempted to do it would be extremely foolish. We can look on that and see how it's wrong yet it would have been a perfectly acceptable decision to previous generations.

The points about bad role models and problems with education are good, but in some ways isn't that a case of the previous generation letting us down, failing to properly educate and motivate as well as setting a bad example? I know it's a cop out to blame things entirely on your parents, teachers or the people you watch on television but those people do have an influence on youth so at some point their failings are to blame for the failings of the next generation.
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Postby -BHZMAFIA- on Wed May 10, 2006 6:46 am

I have to agree with Andrew to some extent. The generation nowindays don't like people all because of their race and gender like how things use to be. People will be your friend because of who you are as a person. I think the generation coming up will be the worse to come because I think there are more and more girls getting pregnant in HS and then you have pre-schoolers cursing ALREADY. When I was in elementary, sex wasn't a real big issue, but now I hear about elementary students having oral sex all in school all the time (at least in Memphis). So by the time the majority of us are in our 30's and 40's, you will see a bad ass generation probably making this world an even worse place to stay. As for the parents thing, my parents know whats really going on most of the time because they aren't just that OLD to not know. They know what goes on in school and it comes to no surprise to them and I talk to my parents about most things, but its some things that you would rather talk to your friends about than yourp arents because I just can't picture myself bringing up a certain topic tom y parents and looking at their reactions :lol:
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Wed May 10, 2006 7:15 am

Colin wrote:
Another thing about school and common sense is that school doesn't teach you how to think for yourself anymore. Everything they feed you is facts and formulas. The people that excel in school with straight A+s or whatever you other countries give/get are the people that reason and can think for themself. It's hard to be taught to think though.

One thing I've noticed about that topic. Some of the 'smartest' people in my school are conversationally handicapped. They're really not very smart or intelligent people, just talented regurguitators who study for hours. My whole study-style is to make sure everything makes sense for me, not just to memorize things. If things make sense then the neccessary study time is so much less. I still am forced to memorize a bunch of stuff. I mean how else would I know that the polarizability of some common atoms goes in this order: B,S>P,H>C,S,I>Br>N,Cl>O>F?

I agree there. I'm in Chemistry right now and the problem with it is it's 75% memorization. And the things are thrown at you at different spots so it's hard to link them back to what you've previously done.

I think that we should be taught based on what we want to do. I don't have a stat, but I'd bet that everyone does best in the subject they like the most. Somewhat related to that is they way teachers teach. Not everyone learns the same way, so it's useless to teach everyone the same way and expect the same results. Some people are geniuses in their own right, but you'd never know it because they fail to succeed when taught like everyone

That's true to some extent, but I think basic education should be required because alot of the stuff sometimes runs together. But it's not gonna help you if you want to be a History major and you have to write an essay comparing and contrasting Andrew Jackson to Abe Lincoln if you don't know how to write a decent essay. But I think some of the other classes are useless like any advanced science/math courses. Honestly, I ask myself everyday while I'm doing my homework "When am I gonna use this in life?" Chemistry (I'll stay there) is one of those subjects. I'm 100% sure that I'm not gonna do anything science wise as a career, so why do I care that groups 1 and 17 react the most? When am I ever going to have to write an equation showing the dissociation of NaCl?

But to play Devil's advocate, alot of times kids don't know what they're going to pursue a career in anyway and alot of these classes are given to attempt to peak the interest of a couple kids. And often people end up doing something in life they never thought they'd be doing.

Oh yea, and another thing about sex is that our generation isn't just having sex with the opposite sex. (N) There's alot of homosexuality these days. I bet you guys could name multiple people in your school that are gay or bi. And lesbians(although we all like lesbians lol) think that if you don't have sex with guys, you don't risk pregnancy. But as far as I'm concerned, all homosexuality is wrong. It'd be a bitch to lose your girl because she decided she's lesbian. Plus gay sex spreads HIV like mad. The thing I'm scared of is that every generation sexual experimentation increases, and that maybe the next gen could be the worse. We've already had people that fucked rabbits and dogs and weird shit like that.
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Postby magius on Wed May 10, 2006 7:30 am

i really don't think our generation is as bad as it seems. Our perception of it is heightened more by the fact that:

1. there are more people, meaning higher probablity of someone doing something 'wrong' or 'immoral.'
2. there is more media coverage than ever before.
3. we are connected as a global communitly like never before.

If you think about it maybe its not the fact that we're bad like no other generation has been, but maybe that its given more coverage. Not to mention every generation is perceived bad by the former.... thats mandatory. remember the 70s? the fact is we are just a different bad... but every generation is a different bad, and, as the cliche goes, the grass is always greener on the other side. It used to be that rock and roll was evil, and everyone went to church on sunday..... well guess what, its called evolution, things change; its not possible for every generation to be the same, and our perception of what is right is influenced by the former. Meaning it is only invetiable that each next generation will challenge that perception because each new generation is different. Not neccessarily bad different, nod neccessarily good different; just plain different.

imo, there's nothing wrong with premarital sex, drinking, or doing drugs. Everything in moderation though.
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Postby Cable on Wed May 10, 2006 10:30 am

Not to mention every generation is perceived bad by the former.... thats mandatory. remember the 70s? the fact is we are just a different bad... but every generation is a different bad, and, as the cliche goes, the grass is always greener on the other side. It used to be that rock and roll was evil, and everyone went to church on sunday..... well guess what, its called evolution, things change; its not possible for every generation to be the same, and our perception of what is right is influenced by the former. Meaning it is only invetiable that each next generation will challenge that perception because each new generation is different. Not neccessarily bad different, nod neccessarily good different; just plain different.

That makes perfect sense to me, although I would argue that previous generations were better because more people did physical activity more often. Our generation is just plain lazy. Give it a couple years and you won't even have to leave your house to do anything you want.
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Postby Stevesanity on Wed May 10, 2006 1:53 pm

I wrote my longest post ever which was long as the original post in this thread only for my net to suddenly go berserk on me. :cry:

So I'll make it quick, I agree with Jackal on the women part. Your obviously not gonna treat any random girl like a queen or a princess, she's just random and someone you'll prolly never meet again. You might as well take the opportunity to have a good lay if she's (y)(y) and move on, maybe if you connect after that you can consider treating her like a princess or a queen although I doubt it since girls that hit on you in the old ass rubbing fashion tend to be gold diggers.

As for my parents well I'd say I'm close with the both of them, while my Mom is the more "Whats this nonsense your watching" or "I want to meet this girl, Invite her to dinner type" my Dad's more modern. He's probably more understanding and lets me do my thing although he would turn Hulk Hogan on my ass if I was messing around with the wrong people and getting into deep with the wrong stuff.

Education wise we'll I've never had a good teacher in my life. I did my work at school and had pretty decent/good grades but was not a flop or a standout but I think its definitely a problem that people don't go to school. Its an experience of a lifetime unless your a nerd and keeping get beaten up.

The media doesnt effect me anymore, I really dont buy into anything thats shown on TV these days because its either always negative or positive meaning bias towards one side. Plus all they seem to focus on is whats wrong with this world, I mean wouldnt it help if people actually got to hear more good news than bad news because it just effects you mentally to always hear someones being hacked to 50 pieces, or 10 soldiers have died in Iraq and so on.

Celebs well they'll come and go, people buy into their lifestyle and follow them like frikkin drones and thats never gonna stop. You'll always get people trying to promote a "bad boy" lifestyle or getting a face lift and a boob job so you can look pretty and get fucked by "popular" guys.

But you can't call our generation the worst, the 60's was also a big mess.
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Postby [Q] on Wed May 10, 2006 3:01 pm

magius wrote:i really don't think our generation is as bad as it seems. Our perception of it is heightened more by the fact that:

1. there are more people, meaning higher probablity of someone doing something 'wrong' or 'immoral.'
2. there is more media coverage than ever before.
3. we are connected as a global communitly like never before.

If you think about it maybe its not the fact that we're bad like no other generation has been, but maybe that its given more coverage. Not to mention every generation is perceived bad by the former.... thats mandatory. remember the 70s? the fact is we are just a different bad... but every generation is a different bad, and, as the cliche goes, the grass is always greener on the other side. It used to be that rock and roll was evil, and everyone went to church on sunday..... well guess what, its called evolution, things change; its not possible for every generation to be the same, and our perception of what is right is influenced by the former. Meaning it is only invetiable that each next generation will challenge that perception because each new generation is different. Not neccessarily bad different, nod neccessarily good different; just plain different.

imo, there's nothing wrong with premarital sex, drinking, or doing drugs. Everything in moderation though.


I completely agree with you here. I think a lot of people think this generation is the worst ever, because less people are religious. 1000 years ago, almost everyone had one person high in the chucrh telling them how to live their lives... nowadays, less people are like that.. having sex before marriage, drinking, drugs, all things that are looked down upon by most religions. so in a way, "the worst generation ever" is dependent on your viewpoint. I choose not to be a slave to organized religion and I feel that we aren't as bad as many people like to think. I mean, it was only in the last generation that blacks were openly discriminated against, women were not allowed many jobs (and have been subjected for most of history, but that's another topic), homosexuality & interracial marriage were not acceptable, and I see those things as much more horrible vices than drinking or premarital sex.

and as far as parents, things are easier if they can adapt to new situations. I was brought up in a traditional-Chinese household, so I never got out, and I had a bad childhood in a single-parent household... the only good thing that came out of that is that I know how NOT to raise my kids...

just my two cents...

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which HS did you go to in LA? I hear the LAUSD isn't that great education-wise.
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Postby Andrew on Wed May 10, 2006 5:03 pm

The Black Death wrote:Oh yea, and another thing about sex is that our generation isn't just having sex with the opposite sex. (N) There's alot of homosexuality these days. I bet you guys could name multiple people in your school that are gay or bi. And lesbians(although we all like lesbians lol) think that if you don't have sex with guys, you don't risk pregnancy. But as far as I'm concerned, all homosexuality is wrong. It'd be a bitch to lose your girl because she decided she's lesbian. Plus gay sex spreads HIV like mad. The thing I'm scared of is that every generation sexual experimentation increases, and that maybe the next gen could be the worse. We've already had people that fucked rabbits and dogs and weird shit like that. [/b]


While I'm not gay nor consider myself by any means an activist for gay rights, I do have a couple of friends who are gay (one male, one female) and to me their sexuality is not an issue. It's not a lifestyle I'd choose myself but they're great people and I'm not about to shun them on the basis of their sexual preference. You and I will have different opinions of homosexuality because with you it's a concern from a religious standpoint as well and not being devoutly religious myself I don't share the same views. I'm certainly not going to tell you your beliefs are wrong though as I would never do such a thing, so we're going to have to agree to disagree as far as that's concerned.

I don't want to get too much into a "Homosexuality: Right or Wrong" or a religious debate here because that's getting off the subject a bit but it is worth pointing out that homosexuality is hardly new. The higher degree of tolerance and the fact more people are openly gay these days probably means we're more aware of it but I think it's naive to think it hardly ever happened in days gone by. Again, I don't think homosexuality or for that matter sexual perversion are new to our generation or necessarily more widespread than they used to be. It's just that we're aware of them.

As for beastiality...well, let's not define our entire generation and the future of mankind by a select group of sickos.
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Postby Laxation on Wed May 10, 2006 5:27 pm

Sure, technology is great, but like any good thing, it is used negatively. As Jackal said, a typical teenager could go to google and find porn in 3 seconds.

Remind me why porn is bad?
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Postby Jackal on Wed May 10, 2006 8:56 pm

A ten, eleven year old searching for porn, isn't bad? The attention span of a 10-11 year old isn't that much. If their thoughts are constantly dominated by nude women (or men), the chances they get "ruined" are more likely opposed to someone who's thoughts aren't dominated by pr0n.

At 10 or 11 you just shouldn't be thinking of ejaculating into your right hand or your mom's good napkins.
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Postby debiler on Wed May 10, 2006 9:26 pm

The Black Death wrote:But as far as I'm concerned, all homosexuality is wrong. It'd be a bitch to lose your girl because she decided she's lesbian.

Dude, did you decide to be straight? Or to be a guy? Don't post shit like that. Or at least think about what you're writing. Do you think it's like waking up one day and then you go: "What to do, what to do? Oh, I know. I'll be gay today!" Really. Homosexuality is wrong, but only if you consider love to be existent only for reproduction.
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Thu May 11, 2006 6:50 am

debiler wrote:
The Black Death wrote:But as far as I'm concerned, all homosexuality is wrong. It'd be a bitch to lose your girl because she decided she's lesbian.

Dude, did you decide to be straight? Or to be a guy? Don't post shit like that. Or at least think about what you're writing. Do you think it's like waking up one day and then you go: "What to do, what to do? Oh, I know. I'll be gay today!" Really. Homosexuality is wrong, but only if you consider love to be existent only for reproduction.

I didn't mean like "decide" to be gay, but IMO nobody is born gay. I think alot of it is how people grow up. Like for instance, if a boy is molested by a man when he's young, that may influence his sexuality. Think, honestly your body doesn't know what's right and what's wrong. Your mind differentiates for you. So if you are molested or something by someone of the same sex, you still may become "aroused" from it just because your body isn't aware that it was a male. But don't you know people that were straight at one point of their life and became gay? Or possibly fronted straight(I guess) and were really living gay. I know kids that were straight and I don't see em for a couple years, next thing I know they're fruitier than Toucan Sam.

Oh yea, I seemed to miss the biggest thing about premarital sex lol. The fact of teenage pregnancies. I just realized this when I heard a girl talking about how she is 2 months pregnant and I don't think she's 17 yet. We already have enough deadbeat dads in the world, and I know that if I boned a chick and she got pregnant, I wouldn't wanna become a father right now. Sure you can use a condom, but they aren't 100% safe. You could do the "pull out trick" but for some reason people seem to never think of it. But I know that alot of us are gonna keep thinking "If I have a chance to lay someone, by god, ima do it!" And I can't really change that frame of thought. But I guess just be smart.
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