Michael Moore violates Canadian AND US Election Laws!

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Michael Moore violates Canadian AND US Election Laws!

Postby benji on Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:52 am

First he hit Canada:
Elections Canada will lay charges against shockumentary filmmaker Michael Moore.

Officially, Elections Canada will neither confirm nor deny plans to lay formal charges against Moore. However, Canadafreepress.com has learned through sources that charges are imminent and expected by the end of next week.

The anti-Bush Moore, who often lets his mouth get ahead of him, may think he got away with the boner of the Canadian release of Fahrenheit 9/11 just days ahead of the June 28 federal election, but there is the little matter of election law infringement.

Moore’s pre-election advice lecturing Canadian voters not to vote Conservative quickly enraged a number of Conservative Party supporters who launched the website: http://www.chargemoore.com in an effort to encourage Elections Canada to uphold its own law.

Moore’s tactics encompass what legal beagles believe is a direct violation of Canada electoral law. Under the “Non-Interference by Foreigners” clause (Part 11, Division 9, section 331) of the Canadian Elections Act:

No person who does not reside in Canada shall, during an election period, in any way induce electors to vote or refrain from voting for a particular candidate unless the person is

1. a Canadian citizen; or

2. a permanent resident within the meaning of subsection 2 (1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.

And the United States:
Moore: "Pick five of the people you know who probably aren’t going to vote. Acknowledge their despair and cynicism. Don’t try to talk them out of it. But gently give them pieces of information over the next few months. And then make a plan for Election Day. Take them out to vote and out to lunch (you pick up the tab!). Or have a party that night for those who voted that day. Or get more creative. Offer a six-pack to anyone in the office who votes (make sure you’re not working in cubicles full of Republicans!). Promise to have sex with a nonvoter - whatever it takes."

Conspiracy to commit voter fraud! More specifically, conspiracy to buy votes. You see, my friends, the Voting Rights Act of 1965 ( and more specifically the 1973 amendment, 42 U.S.C 1973i(c)) says that:

"Whoever knowingly or willfully gives false information as to his name, address or period of residence in the voting district for the purpose of establishing his eligibility to register or vote, or conspires with another individual for the purpose of encouraging his false registration to vote or illegal voting, or pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."This statute prohibits “vote buying” in the broadest terms possible by forbidding any “payment” or "offer of payment" that is made to a would-be voter “for voting” or to induce unregistered individuals to get onto the electoral roles. A “payment” encompasses anything of material value including lottery chances.

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Moore, however isn’t the only entity with strong feelings when it comes to voter fraud. I guess you could say the Federal Election Committee will do whatever it takes to prosecute people who even attempt to buy votes.

For example:

5 People in Statesville, N.C. are on trial as of March 1st, 2004 for attempting to buy votes for as little as $10. ( about the price of a dinner or a six pack) They face up to 25 years each for simply asking to buy votes.

He may have also struck Aussieland:
CONTROVERSIAL American filmmaker Michael Moore urged Australians to vote out the Howard government at the forthcoming election for its role in the Iraq war.

I don't know about Aussie election law however...this may be just fine and dandy...
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Postby J@3 on Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:22 am

Over here I think the words most of us use are "piss off you fat American wanker"
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Postby Andrew on Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:34 pm

I'm not sure if such a law exists in Australia either, but there's other reasons to vote out Howard apart from Australia's involvement in Iraq.
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Postby J@3 on Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:45 pm

I saw a part of an interview he did on 60 Minutes over here, and he did the usual "why is John Howard in bed with an idiot" thing, then the host said something about Mark Latham, and the Australians removing their troops if he gets elected, and Moore's like "oh no you guys aren't going anywhere, you helped start this mess you can stay and fix it'. Funnily enough, Michael Moore has no control over whether Australia removes its troops. Idiot.

P.S- My God he's expanding, how fat can this guy get?
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Postby Matthew on Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:29 pm

theres no reason to vote out howard, full stop. what has he done bad for the country? labour is so terrible they are ruining each state individually.. luckily we have howard stopping them from nosediving the country into recession. id shake john howards hand if met him.
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Postby J@3 on Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:38 pm

I don't like John Howard, he's rodent like.
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Postby Andrew on Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:16 am

I don't care for Howard mainly because of the GST and the whole children overboard debacle. However, my main reason for voting against him is the fact that Costello will likely replace him as prime minister before the next federal election (2007).
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Postby J@3 on Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:36 am

Who's that little bloke in Howards group that runs up to the microphone occassionally and yells abuse at everyone? He's a champ, I'd vote for him.
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Postby benji on Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:41 am

Jae. wrote:then the host said something about Mark Latham, and the Australians removing their troops if he gets elected, and Moore's like "oh no you guys aren't going anywhere, you helped start this mess you can stay and fix it'. Funnily enough, Michael Moore has no control over whether Australia removes its troops. Idiot.

Psch...that's nothing new for Mikey: "I'm sorry, but the majority of Americans supported this war once it began and, sadly, that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has been let that maybe -- just maybe -- God and the Iraqi people will forgive us in the end."

"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy.' They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win."

"There is no terrorist threat in this country. This is a lie. This is the biggest lie we've been told."

He so silly.

I don't know anything about John Howards policies, all I know are the quotes he drops and he rules in that aspect.
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Postby alexboom on Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:22 am

pff, you all losers as long as you will have a true gangsta for President like here in France :cool:
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Postby Matthew on Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:33 am

Its funny you bring up the gst... the gst isnt a bad thing, and theres no way labour will be getting rid of it. in fact, all the states want to raise the level of gst from 10% to 12%. Of course the liberals said no, but becuase every state is labour run, and if labour gets in as federal leaders, they will have the power to do so.

States recieve every cent from the gst.. its all given back, so its not like john howard recieves more from it.

But the underlining factor is we are being taxed too much on certain things. but thats becuase of individual states whacking on additional stamp duty taxes on items.

As for the children overboard thing... they are all idiots like homer, so what harm did it do? Those fuckers are illegal's. We have a system for immigrants and refugees, and they dont follow the rules and our laws even when trying to enter our country, how are they going to follow and respect our laws when they are here? It would be like wanting to rent a house.. not speaking to a real estate agent or vendor, and breaking in and just living there... its ridiculous.
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Postby J@3 on Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:54 pm

As for the children overboard thing... they are all idiots like homer, so what harm did it do?


Just a shame Homer missed out :(

John Howard came to Maitland a few years back to open their new basketball stadium I believe. He had a shot and completely bricked it, losing all of my respect in the process.
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Postby EGarrett on Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:43 am

NBA_Fan_23 wrote:[color=indigo]As for the children overboard thing... they are all idiots like homer, so what harm did it do?


This is uncalled for and the attacks on Homer are getting out of hand.
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Postby Jackal on Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:10 am

Can we stay on topic?

His movie was released here today, I'll probably go check it out to see what it's all about. Has anyone seen it?
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Postby PRoPuLsiOnDJ on Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:20 pm

i've seen it ... and it's a good movie. It's worth your money, belive me
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Postby Matthew on Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:27 pm

This is uncalled for and the attacks on Homer are getting out of hand.

heh, go spit out a soda.

i've seen it ... and it's a good movie. It's worth your money, belive me

I'll never support Michael Moore. I watched bowling for columbine the other day on cable.. its the dumbest movie i have ever seen. "like mike" is more credible than it..
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Postby Matthew on Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:23 pm

Go John Kerry! http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/22/kerry.violence.ap/index.html
"We can do so much better," Kerry said in remarks prepared for delivery, "better for the communities that are living in fear because of gang violence, and better also for these young people who have a real future if we reach out to them."

Now.. If im not mistaken, Michael More "blasted" the senators in bowling for columbine and walked down south central la, saying that the air polution was more of a danger than gang crime... i wonder if he'll support john kerry?
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Postby EGarrett on Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:25 am

NBA_Fan_23 wrote:
This is uncalled for and the attacks on Homer are getting out of hand.

heh, go spit out a soda.


Excuse me?

If you want to flame other members...don't do it on the board.
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Postby Matthew on Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:10 am

What insight! is there a flame in this thread? I cant see one, so please stay on topic so we can all talk about the wonders of Michael Moore. Thank you.

I was even thinking about posting this in bold red, but then I would also have to have a "moderator supreme" logo in my avatar, or a "moderator" flag there instead :lol:
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Postby Jackal on Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:24 am

EG, please try and stay on topic. It's not appreciated by the forum users when topics go off track just because of someone asking you to spit out your soda.
Forget it man, you're the bigger man. (Y)

Matthew, shame on you for not saying please when asking him to spit out his soda, that's impolite. :roll:

Anyways, back on track folks..

I don't think I'm willing to pay 8.50 Euro's just to go and watch some guy trying to make a historical movie about historical happenings, it's still in my mind. I'll just pick it up on DVD. Theatre's are to enjoy, not ponder the meaning of life & ponder about actions that were taken in important decisions. Nah, theatre's are for ass whoopings & butt-jiggling's.
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Postby Gripni on Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:35 am

Bush is getting attacked by celebrities, and I'm glad about it.

Michael Moore has a movie about him.

In "Why," Jadakiss says "Why did Bush knock down the towers."

(Bush is edited in the radio edit.) :miserable:

Even though I think the idea that Bush was involved in the 9/11 attacks is crazy, I do think that Jadakiss would make a better president than George Bush. Maybe not Michael Moore though. I want to see problems being fixed, not documentaries about them.

(No.)
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Postby benji on Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:40 pm

Jackal wrote:I don't think I'm willing to pay 8.50 Euro's just to go and watch some guy trying to make a historical movie about historical happenings

It's not. It's a propaganda film about things that aren't true.
I do think that Jadakiss would make a better president than George Bush

I do think that you're an idiot.
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Postby GloveGuy on Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:53 pm

I think that Talib Kweli's line in the "The Proud" is better.
The President's a Bush, the Vice-President's a Dick
So a whole lot of fuckin' is what we gonna get
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Postby Matthew on Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:56 pm

Oh word up :crazy:
I guess that shows how weak the opposition to george w. is when the haters have to quote rap lyrics as an arguement against him :lol:
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Postby EGarrett on Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:29 pm

NBA_Fan_23 wrote:What insight! is there a flame in this thread? I cant see one, so please stay on topic so we can all talk about the wonders of Michael Moore. Thank you.

I was even thinking about posting this in bold red, but then I would also have to have a "moderator supreme" logo in my avatar, or a "moderator" flag there instead :lol:


If you supposedly want to work things out in an intelligent and mature manner, then you both should be conducting yourselves like people who are, intelligent, mature and respectful. You're not, at all.

If someone wants to carry on the rest of the discussion, go ahead.
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