Zarqawi "eliminated"! (warning: graphic photo)

Hehe, i had a 4.0 GPA last semester, and a 3.9 first semester, at the top art school in North America, so thats pretty cool. Why not lets all just post our GPA's and save ourself the time of discussing the actual topic.

You had a 4.0 GPA and you didn't know that Frank Lloyd Wright was the architect for the Guggenheim Museum?

That was high school, in my program there's really no art history, just loads of drawing.

I'm glad he's dead to be honest. Whilst celebrating over death isn't great their are people in this world that need to just be dead. When Hitler died people didn't say 'Let's not celebrate his death, let's respect him for his amazing work.' You need to take down the ring leaders cause they tend to be the ones that motivate and recruit. Whilst this will not do any real damage it's one less retard to worry about and capturing him would as Riot said result in hostages.

Well it seems we (the US) have discovered Zarqawi's War assessment report and it's chock full of info.

Link

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A blueprint for trying to start a war between the United States and
Iran was among a "huge treasure" of documents found in the hideout of terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Iraqi officials said Thursday. The document, purporting to reflect al-Qaida policy and its cooperation with groups loyal to ousted President
Saddam Hussein, also appear to show that the insurgency in
Iraq was weakening.

This is really, really gonna hurt the Democratic Party. I think the document is on Rush Limbaugh's site, but I know the commercial media is gonna try to only show us what they want. It basically contains Zarqawi's detailed descriptions of how we were really hurting them and whipping their asses.

Like I've said over and over again, we are winning this war.

Riot, nobody really cares what you say when you've said it 1000 times before.

Riot, nobody really cares what you say when you've said it 1000 times before.

I think they should considering I speak the truth. We are winning the war and just because the media says we aren't doesn't mean we aren't. The mass media coverage is awful right now and any loss of life gets maximized and focused on. Loss of life is bad but that is what happens in the war. Just think what WWII would be like if we had this kind of media coverage. We would have pulled out in a month.

I agree there is no real place for media in war, becuase no matter the situation, loss of life is always a somewhat sad thing, and peoples feelings can turn easily when confronted with that situation, even if its just on tv or in a newspaper.

But if you expect people to take in comments like "we are winning this war" seriously, i think you are a bit dillusional. I dont doubt progress is being made and iraq had to be gone into, but alot of people who ciriticise the war have no real alternative views except "war is bad, bush is dumb, i hate america" etc, so they arent exactly the most open minded people, and when they see a comment like yours, they wont respond or even acknowledge it.

Like I've said over and over again, we are winning this war.

How exactly is this a "war?" Its not USA vs. Iraq, it's USA vs. a very select group of murderers. And its not a win or lose situation. It was never possible that the US forces would get there and be overmatched by the insurgencies. There's never going to be a point where you can say,"yup, we got 'em all!" You may get the leaders, but all thats going to do is create more terrorists with an even stronger hate, and new leaders will emerge to take down the newly created joke that is the Iraqi government. I commend their intentions but there have been way too many intelligence failures to make any sort of progress.

But there will probably come a time when the coalition (its not just america over there) can have things under control. As you say, you cant get them all, but there is no country without murder in the world, so it would be impossible to expect that. But it's getting to the point where its close to being under control.

How is this not a war? We are fighting against the terrorists and the insergency. It's not your average nation vs. nation warfare but that doesn't mean it isn't a war. This is modern warfare. It's our beliefs vs. their beliefs. When we first invaded Iraq we actually were facing an Army (Iraqi Republican Guard) and now we are facing a more difficult opposition.

Will we ever eliminate terrorism? Probably not. However, we are making some serious progress and a dent in their operations. This document that Zarqwai wrote is great proof of that. A US Army general also said that we are pushing the terrorists and insergents out of the Middle East. That is excatly what we want.

Our troops are doing a hell of a job over there fighting an enemy that is dressed as a civilian. Like I said, this is just modern warfare and how much of wars in the future will be like.

I don't see this as a war. I see this as hunting down a select group of people who really don't want to fight like this. Like hunting down any serial killer, its an enemy that wants to kill innocent people, not soldiers.

And the terrorists are never going to be extinct. They're not a race of people. I'd compare them to Nazis, but they were removed pretty quickly, which is why even though you still hear about acts committed by people with the same ideology, its very rare and fairly under control. I don't see how you can step into a holy war hundreds of years in the making and decide you can fix it. I hope they do make progress, but agian, its putting a band aid on a broken leg.

I don't see this as a war. I see this as hunting down a select group of people who really don't want to fight like this. Like hunting down any serial killer, its an enemy that wants to kill innocent people, not soldiers.

And the terrorists are never going to be extinct. They're not a race of people. I'd compare them to Nazis, but they were removed pretty quickly, which is why even though you still hear about acts committed by people with the same ideology, its very rare and fairly under control. I don't see how you can step into a holy war hundreds of years in the making and decide you can fix it. I hope they do make progress, but agian, its putting a band aid on a broken leg.

What do you mean they aren't trying to kill soldiers? They attack soldiers and convoys every single day. Sure, they want to create civilian casualties to prove a point and to try to make it look like the war is failing but they are trying to get America and our allies out of the Middle East. They are certainly going after our troops over there. If you don't think they are you are in denial.

This is a war that is being taken place in a number of places. Iraq and Afghanistan are only a few but we are doing a lot of military opperations in this war. Like I said, this is modern warfare. We are using a lot of intelligence and going after key suspects who are in hiding. We are trying to rebuild numerous countries that were haunted by terrorist and corrupt leaders. This is a war.

I don't mean that they don't attack soldiers, but they are only doing that because of the invasion. Obviously they're not just standing there while soldiers blow them up, otherwise they wouldn't be furthering the perversion of their religion.

But the ones who need to be removed aren't in favour of fighting in the battlefields or trenches. They're the ones who want to use a single pawn to blow himself up and take out as many civilains as possible. And they have far too many people who are willing to take that job. And I can't see American forces forcefeeding democracy as a solution to ridding the area of that twisted mentality.

I'm all for developing an Iraqi army or training a police force, but it should be up to them to put together a government.

What we need is for the masses of people there to stand up and reject that part of their religion, and admit their failures. Thats why I don't see it happening.

You can't win the war on terrorism because there will always be terrorists in this world, no matter how many you kill.
Hasn't anyone read the book 1984?

It's good his dead.