money for war

[Amphatoast]

ok bush is planning to borrow anther 80billion bucks for the war in Iraq meaning this year's federal deficit will hit $427 billion.

just curious, where the hell do they loan this money
and will it ever be paid off. I don't get it. Every year it gets worst and worst, and what happens if it reaches 0? Im not too good on politics/economy info so some educated people would be nice

[J@3]

ok bush is planning to borrow anther 80billion bucks for the war in Iraq meaning this year's federal deficit will hit $427 billion.

Lol for fuck sakes. Give me a shot gun and $50 for alcohol and I would've wiped out the entire Iraqi army in a day. Bush is a tool, learn to fight a war you spanner.

[Guest]

The rain is turning to snow on a blustery January morning, and all the men gathered in a parking lot here surely would prefer to be inside. But the weather couldn't matter less to the robotic sharpshooter they are here to watch as it splashes through puddles, the barrel of its machine gun pointing the way.
The Army is preparing to send 18 of these remote-controlled robotic warriors to fight in Iraq beginning in March or April. Made by a small Massachusetts company, the SWORDS, short for Special Weapons Observation Reconnaissance Detection Systems, will be the first armed robotic vehicles to see combat.





It's easy to humanize the SWORDS as it moves out of an office building and into the cold with nary a shiver. Military officials like to compare the roughly three-foot-high robots favorably to human soldiers: They don't need to be trained, fed or clothed. They can be boxed up and warehoused between wars. They never complain. And there are no letters to write home if they meet their demise in battle.

But officials are quick to point out that these are not the autonomous killer robots of science fiction. A SWORDS robot shoots only when its human operator presses a button after identifying a target on video shot by the robot's cameras. "The only difference is that his weapon is not at his shoulder, it's up to half a mile a way," said Bob Quinn, general manager of Talon robots for Foster-Miller Inc., the Waltham, Mass., company that makes the SWORDS.

Quinn said it was a "bootstrap development process" to convert a Talon robot, which has been in military service since 2000, from its main mission — defusing roadside bombs in Iraq — into the gun-slinging SWORDS. It was a joint development process between the Army and Foster-Miller, a robotics firm bought in November by QinetiQ Group PLC.

Army officials and employees of the robotics firm heard from soldiers "who said 'My brothers are being killed out here. We love the EOD (explosive ordnance disposal), but let's put some weapons on it,'" said Quinn. Working with soldiers and engineers at Picatinny Arsenal in New Jersey, it took just six months and only about $2 million in development money to outfit a Talon with weapons, according to Quinn and Anthony Sebasto, a technology manager at Picatinny.

The Talon had already proven itself to be pretty rugged. One was blown off the roof of a Humvee and into a nearby river by a roadside bomb in Iraq. Soldiers simply opened its shrapnel-pocked control unit and drove the robot out of the river, according to Quinn. The $200,000, armed version will carry standard-issue Squad Automatic Weapons. All its optics equipment — the four cameras, night vision and zoom lenses — were already in the Army's inventory.

"It's important to stress that not everything has to be super high tech," said Sebasto. "You can integrate existing componentry and create a revolutionary capability." The SWORDS' developers say its tracks, like those on a tank, can overcome rock piles and barbed wire, though it needs a ride to travel faster than 4 mph.

Running on lithium ion batteries, it can operate for 1 to 4 hours at a time, depending on the mission. Operators work the robot using a 30-pound control unit which has two joysticks, a handful of buttons and a video screen. Quinn says that may eventually be replaced by a "Gameboy" type of controller hooked up to virtual reality goggles. The Army has been testing it over the past year at Picatinny and the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland to ensure it won't malfunction and can stand up to radio jammers and other countermeasures.

Its developers say the SWORDS not only allows its operators to fire at enemies without exposing themselves to return fire, but also can make them more accurate. A typical soldier who could hit a target the size of a basketball from 300 meters away could hit a target the size of a nickel with the SWORDS, according Quinn.

The better accuracy stems largely from the fact that its gun is mounted on a stable platform and fired electronically, rather than by a soldier's hands, according to Staff Sgt. Santiago Tordillosi of the EOD Technology Directorate at Picatinny. Gone are such issues as trigger recoil, anticipation problems, and pausing the breathing cycle while aiming a weapon.

"It eliminates the majority of shooting errors you would have," said Tordillosi.

Yah, robots that kill, just what the world needs. How about a mobile phone/gun, that would go down a treat where I live.

[J@3]

How about a mobile phone/gun, that would go down a treat where I live.

Just keep it away from Birmingham. All of the pseudo gangsta's would have a field day.

[Jowe]

ok bush is planning to borrow anther 80billion bucks for the war in Iraq meaning this year's federal deficit will hit $427 billion.

just curious, where the hell do they loan this money
and will it ever be paid off. I don't get it. Every year it gets worst and worst, and what happens if it reaches 0? Im not too good on politics/economy info so some educated people would be nice

Yeh i sometimes wonder that too.

The way i see it, its - $427, 000, 000, 000

[Riot]

Every country is in debut

[Indy]

Every country is in debut

first of all, this is not a premiere its debt not debut.

and no every country is not in debt. and no other country spends as much money on imperialism as the US does.

[Yessie]

Bush is an idiot i still cant figure out why people voted for his C average A$$

[Steve [The Spiderman]]

Yeah, both the candidates sucked in the election...I would be better than both Kerry and Bush. And I saw something on the Discovery channel about those killing robots...damn that would be scary!!!

[Yessie]

get ready for war everyone? time to kill all the nerds trying to kill the human race

[iKe7in]

I really feel bad for Bush. If only he had gotten oxygen at birth.

[Amphatoast]

Every country is in debut

how is a country suppose to be successful if it's in debt?