ESPN NBA 2K5 20 videos on IGN
Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:06 am
http://media.sports.ign.com/articles/54 ... ?fromint=1
I'm hearing good and bad news, people are saying the gameplay is just like last year and tha guys like Eddie Jones still have Vince Carter like hops, but I will watch and review myself.
I'm hearing good and bad news, people are saying the gameplay is just like last year and tha guys like Eddie Jones still have Vince Carter like hops, but I will watch and review myself.
Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:44 pm
Detroit [Computer] vs Houston [User]
You can see that Detroit is the computer because on free throws, their's no freethrow bar/meter [or whatever], the player just shoots
My summary:
Isomotion2
First of all, Iso2 was looking nice in terms of the animations, they looked good. Also you were actually able to guard the Isomotion, and their weren't many charges in the game.
I didn't like the fact that Yao, and big men in general we so fluid and smooth with their handles, it doesn't show realism, and this is something that needs to be worked on. Some might say it's up to the user, but Yao should'nt be able to do the same crossover that Kobe can no matter what.
Yao putting it through his legs like a guard, then doing a jumpstop is kinda weird.
Their's a lot of Iso2 dribbling in traffic, and that's not nice. Even Yao was stringing a couple of quick crossovers down low
I still don't like that they didn't at least make the moves slower for bigger guys, Juwan Howard was dribbling just like Bob Sura was. Also it seemed like if you just keep doing Iso moves, you'll finally get past the guy. Maybe difficulty will take care of that , but it shouldn't be apparent in the first place.
I think someone said this before, but McGrady goes right through Tayshaun Prince
Passing
Like someone said before, the players kept doing the two handed passes, whether while running on the break, or if someone was 1 foot in front of them. It doesn't both gameplay so I'm fine, but is kinda weird looking. Their were a lot of those two handed overhead passes though, but s'all good.
This is not a big thing, but Rasheed was inbounding, and Chauncey had his back turned to him??
The passing overall was okay, but could definately be better, a lot of long and cross court passes.
Dunks
The dunks look a little better, but they still aren't controlled, some dunks should only happen on fast breaks, but that wasn't the case here.
Yao seemed to get too high on his dunk attempts, but it would be a waste of time to focus too much on having such varied jump heights for different players.
Rasheed also did this coc.k back dunk attempt which was a little too much for the situation.
Some dunks just didn't fit in, players rose up at the wrong time, and sometimes they'd be standing and just go up and throw it down on someone.
Posting up
Their wasn't enough of this, but from what was there, it's pretty good, not as indepth as I expected, but good nonethless, a great building block.
Blocks
The blocks are much better, they aren't wild, and more normal, but we already knew this.
Tmac blocks Rasheed on some power dunk attempt
Gameplay
We all know that Houston was the user, so I will only address problems with Detroit.
First of all, they did not play like Detroit, they took many many early shots, they didn't really setup Rip for pull up jumpshots, and the defensive intensity wasn't really apparent.
Chauncey Billups shot way too much, that hog
, he was taking almost all of the teams shots in the game.
Also it seemed like players always faded or floated to the side when they shot, their was too much of that by the AI. They took a lot of three's, played so fast like I said before, and the fading again was excessive.
The adjusted shots go in like nothing, so I know I'm going to have to turn that down
, but the adjusted shot animations look nice for the most part.
Yao is pretty fast in the game, he took the ball on the break and pulled off some moves which wasn't good, but it was the user [the moves part, the speed is still not good]. Tmac also dunked on Billups a lot [poor guy]
On the defensive side, the rotation was nice, penetration was still a little too easy, but the defense is definately improved.
The flow was not too good, but I'd like to see in a higher difficulty. Normally that changes it at least a little, so hopefully that will be the case
Lakers [User] vs Heat [User]
Pregame/Postgame
The pregame stuff looked nice, I liked all the little things in there, it was good.
Commentary
Not bad except that Bill Walton is not that nice in this, his commentating doesn't flow well with the game, but it seems like it's because of how slow he talks or something. [Maybe just don't like him]
Dunks
This wasn't looking good, mind that these guys don't know how to play basketball [and they expect us to trust their reviews on these games].
The users were part of the problem, but also the wrong dunks happened at the wrong time.
I was thinking to myself, why does every player have to dunk everything, do some layups, layups! Kobe did a reverse pump in traffic, and he tried to do a through the legs on Shaq?
Wade was just constantly throwing it down no matter what, the man was on a rampage.
Odom killed Rasual Butler on the one dunk, and even Rasual Butler and Brian Grant were getting in on the action.
Isomotion2
Divac was showing some handles too, but this basically is the same as with the user vs comp.
Faces
This is in regards to both games shown obviously. The faces were good, but some players looked a little weird. Tayshaun still loks funny, but they seemed to extend the chin or something on some players. Guess what though, you only see it in cutscenes, so who cares? The necks and postures were also a little weird, but doesn't bother me, the players don't have to be perfect really as long as they play right.
Gameplay
This game was user vs user as opposed to user vs comp in the Pistons game. It was just bad though, even on a low difficulty, the game didn't pay like this in college hoops. The players went to dunk everything, and they were all flying high, when I saw Eddie Jones go up I was like
Some of the adjustments that went in were from like 8 feet away, and they went in too much like I said, but not bad with the adjustments.
I didn't like that Shaq was doing crossovers obviously, and like I said before, even if the user is the one pressing the buttons, Shaq shouldn't be capable of those kind of moves while being guarded [especially that quickly]. Maybe alone at home in his backyard, and even then I'd be very skeptical.
The big men were so fast in the game, they moved like guards [this happened with Yao too]. Shaq was driving to the basket like he was Lamar Odom or something.
Shaq still has normal people's jumpers, he looks like someone that actually knows how to shoot.
The Heat shot 71%, and the Lakers had 12 blocks, who is the shot blocker on the Lakers getting those blocks, but the users can attain to that hopefully.
My biggest dislike though would be that Shaq could hardly back down Kobe?
You can see that Detroit is the computer because on free throws, their's no freethrow bar/meter [or whatever], the player just shoots
My summary:
Isomotion2
First of all, Iso2 was looking nice in terms of the animations, they looked good. Also you were actually able to guard the Isomotion, and their weren't many charges in the game.
I didn't like the fact that Yao, and big men in general we so fluid and smooth with their handles, it doesn't show realism, and this is something that needs to be worked on. Some might say it's up to the user, but Yao should'nt be able to do the same crossover that Kobe can no matter what.
Yao putting it through his legs like a guard, then doing a jumpstop is kinda weird.
Their's a lot of Iso2 dribbling in traffic, and that's not nice. Even Yao was stringing a couple of quick crossovers down low
I still don't like that they didn't at least make the moves slower for bigger guys, Juwan Howard was dribbling just like Bob Sura was. Also it seemed like if you just keep doing Iso moves, you'll finally get past the guy. Maybe difficulty will take care of that , but it shouldn't be apparent in the first place.
I think someone said this before, but McGrady goes right through Tayshaun Prince
Passing
Like someone said before, the players kept doing the two handed passes, whether while running on the break, or if someone was 1 foot in front of them. It doesn't both gameplay so I'm fine, but is kinda weird looking. Their were a lot of those two handed overhead passes though, but s'all good.
This is not a big thing, but Rasheed was inbounding, and Chauncey had his back turned to him??
The passing overall was okay, but could definately be better, a lot of long and cross court passes.
Dunks
The dunks look a little better, but they still aren't controlled, some dunks should only happen on fast breaks, but that wasn't the case here.
Yao seemed to get too high on his dunk attempts, but it would be a waste of time to focus too much on having such varied jump heights for different players.
Rasheed also did this coc.k back dunk attempt which was a little too much for the situation.
Some dunks just didn't fit in, players rose up at the wrong time, and sometimes they'd be standing and just go up and throw it down on someone.
Posting up
Their wasn't enough of this, but from what was there, it's pretty good, not as indepth as I expected, but good nonethless, a great building block.
Blocks
The blocks are much better, they aren't wild, and more normal, but we already knew this.
Tmac blocks Rasheed on some power dunk attempt
Gameplay
We all know that Houston was the user, so I will only address problems with Detroit.
First of all, they did not play like Detroit, they took many many early shots, they didn't really setup Rip for pull up jumpshots, and the defensive intensity wasn't really apparent.
Chauncey Billups shot way too much, that hog
, he was taking almost all of the teams shots in the game.
Also it seemed like players always faded or floated to the side when they shot, their was too much of that by the AI. They took a lot of three's, played so fast like I said before, and the fading again was excessive.
The adjusted shots go in like nothing, so I know I'm going to have to turn that down
, but the adjusted shot animations look nice for the most part.
Yao is pretty fast in the game, he took the ball on the break and pulled off some moves which wasn't good, but it was the user [the moves part, the speed is still not good]. Tmac also dunked on Billups a lot
[poor guy]
On the defensive side, the rotation was nice, penetration was still a little too easy, but the defense is definately improved.
The flow was not too good, but I'd like to see in a higher difficulty. Normally that changes it at least a little, so hopefully that will be the case
Lakers [User] vs Heat [User]
Pregame/Postgame
The pregame stuff looked nice, I liked all the little things in there, it was good.
Commentary
Not bad except that Bill Walton is not that nice in this, his commentating doesn't flow well with the game, but it seems like it's because of how slow he talks or something. [Maybe just don't like him]
Dunks
This wasn't looking good, mind that these guys don't know how to play basketball [and they expect us to trust their reviews on these games].
The users were part of the problem, but also the wrong dunks happened at the wrong time.
I was thinking to myself, why does every player have to dunk everything, do some layups, layups! Kobe did a reverse pump in traffic, and he tried to do a through the legs on Shaq?
Wade was just constantly throwing it down no matter what, the man was on a rampage.
Odom killed Rasual Butler on the one dunk
, and even Rasual Butler and Brian Grant were getting in on the action.
Isomotion2
Divac was showing some handles too, but this basically is the same as with the user vs comp.
Faces
This is in regards to both games shown obviously. The faces were good, but some players looked a little weird. Tayshaun still loks funny, but they seemed to extend the chin or something on some players. Guess what though, you only see it in cutscenes, so who cares? The necks and postures were also a little weird, but doesn't bother me, the players don't have to be perfect really as long as they play right.
Gameplay
This game was user vs user as opposed to user vs comp in the Pistons game. It was just bad though, even on a low difficulty, the game didn't pay like this in college hoops. The players went to dunk everything, and they were all flying high, when I saw Eddie Jones go up I was like
Some of the adjustments that went in were from like 8 feet away, and they went in too much like I said, but not bad with the adjustments.
I didn't like that Shaq was doing crossovers obviously, and like I said before, even if the user is the one pressing the buttons, Shaq shouldn't be capable of those kind of moves while being guarded [especially that quickly]. Maybe alone at home in his backyard, and even then I'd be very skeptical.
The big men were so fast in the game, they moved like guards [this happened with Yao too]. Shaq was driving to the basket like he was Lamar Odom or something.
Shaq still has normal people's jumpers, he looks like someone that actually knows how to shoot.
The Heat shot 71%
, and the Lakers had 12 blocks, who is the shot blocker on the Lakers getting those blocks, but the users can attain to that hopefully.
My biggest dislike though would be that Shaq could hardly back down Kobe?
Sat Sep 18, 2004 3:22 am
Question: what is Isomotion??? By the way, nice B Diddy cover
Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:04 am
qballer wrote:Question: what is Isomotion??? By the way, nice B Diddy cover
It's ESPN's freestyle, they have Isomotion post too. Last year Isomotion had too little control, but the isomotion 2 is supposed to be better, but I don't know/think it will have the amount of control Live does.
ESPN actually took a lot from Live 2004. Their inbounding is changed to how Live's was, the in air adjustments, the hop step, and even the double teams look the same.
Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:46 am
After watching half of videos, I have some likes and dislikes. My likes are the after game feature and like the halftime features. The graphics a plus and the shooting motion is good. I also like the realistic shots when you miss a shot, it looks like how a shot would miss in real life. Some of the dislikes were that the big men were doing crossovers like they were Iverson. Shaq was running down the court very fast. The game speed is fast like Live was in Live 04 seems like it. I'm still getting both games and hopefully they will have some type of sliders where the big men cant do those damn crossovers
I like the thing where the players meet with the coach and the player address an issue and you have 3 choices to answer him.
I like the thing where the players meet with the coach and the player address an issue and you have 3 choices to answer him.
Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:36 am
Do you have to be an insider to watch those vids? I tried...