My bad on the destroying thing, I misread what you said and took it like "Aliens [literally, physically] destroyed God." I didn't realize I said that...I should have said "the concept of God."
And if there is no God, what is a half-reasonable explanation for everything ever made?
The Big Bang theory, for one. If you say that a small particle couldn't have exploded with such force that it created our solar system, or the universe...well, apparently you've never heard of an isotope of hydrogen that would probably blow up half the world...and that's an Earthly element. There's stuff that's probably ten times more powerful floating around in space that cannot be found on Earth. If you look, there are half-reasonable explanations for everything ever made. Evolution is proven, by the way...
I think the only reason you say this is because you dont understand it correctly.
I understand it just fine. I've read enough philosophy, literary theory, criticism, and so on, and I've read a great deal of it myself, so I do know the bible, and I do understand it correctly. If you read it and take it literally - which is exactly how it was meant to be taken, it IS the "word" of God - then it does not flow together smoothly, and the stories - especially in the old testament - contradict each other in many ways, and you can look this stuff up. There's a reason I'm agnostic, and that's mostly because of the rather strict religious upbringing I've had. I haven't been to church for about 3 years, and that one time was with a girlfriend who was Catholic...before that, I went to church and sunday school until I was 17...I have the background, but not recent enough to recall specifics, but trust me, they are there. Just do a google search for problems with the bible, and you'll find 'em...
What part of the Bible do you believe is bullshit. Adam and Eve, maybe but to me it makes sense. No, I'm not a Bible wiz, but I have my beliefs and what not. The Bible isn't an easy to read book that everyone understands on their first read. Every part of it, IMO, is the truth.
Like I said, I've read most of the bible, and all of the new testament. Have you ever read Levi-Strauss, Karl Marx, Niectzhe, Brooks, Freud, Volosinov and others? These philosphers/critics/scientists are more difficult to read than the bible. And the bible can be proven wrong based on historical accounts...like I said, do a little research into the bible, and you'll find all the inconsistancies that I speak of.
Oh, and you ignored my post about how the bible was probably edited to suit those in powers' need....that is VERY important, and I believe that that is the main reason there are inconsistancies. The bible would probably be very consistant if it was the original...but translations, clergymen who took liberty, and so on, could have easily changed the content.
Logic demands a creator when one looks at the awesome diversity, variety, and beauty of life that surrounds us. Are we supposed to logically suppose this to be accidental and then ultimately be concluded by the meaningless of death?
Why not? Logic does not demand a physical creator at all, but it does demand that something be a catalyst for creation, and there are theories as to how everything came to be. Everything dies...plants, animals, and so on...does that mean they have a God, a creator, who they worship, who will grant them eternal life in a paradise if they lead good lives? They were created as well, and they are easily explained in the Adam and Eve story, which, as you said, was the most unlikely of the stories (who recorded these events, by the way? There were only 2 people on the face of the earth, and if they were told down to generations, they would be along the lines of great grandfather or whatever they say). However, that isn't the case...no one was around, so what about the other life on Earth that isn't intelligent enough to build churches and worship God?
Its just as impossible to prove there is a God and that there is no God.
I'm not really trying to say there isn't a God. I'm just saying hte bible is more or less bullshit, and that you are naive to believe everything you read in the bible, just like you are naive to believe everything you read out of a textbook (especially textbooks in the US that are dominated anymore by corporations with ulterior motives). It is far easier to disprove the existence of a God than it is to prove it. And I'll get to that in a second...
Actually you could attempt to prove there is a God. It's been done through miracles and resurrections and what not, but the people like jaev (no offense) and others find it pretty easy to believe that it was BS or something else. How would it be possible to prove there is no God. To say "if you are God you give me $1000 right now," and if it doesnt appear there is no God?
*sigh* Miracles, bah. David Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty disappear, was that an act of God? No, it was an illusion. Miracles can be faked easily, and if you believe that every miracle that supposedly happened in a book whose credibility cannot be proven, then you are incredibly naive and ignorant. To blindly believe something that you read is no better than believing that you can get to heaven on the tail of a comet passing by the planet. It's foolish, and it's the same thing that cult's do.
BTW, that woman who killed her sons with stones had problems and couldnt tell right from wrong.
A priest kills a rapist and a murderer who was acquited and currently living in the community. He claims that God told him to do it, and that he was protecting God's people. But in killing the rapist, he broke one of the ten commandments and his vows as a priest. Is this an act of God, or an act of insanity? Most people would probably say an act of God. Why? Because it helped people and the man was evil. But it is STILL morally wrong. How can you say that the woman wasn't told by God to bash her sons heads in with rocks? He told the priest to kill the murderer. What's the difference? The innocence of the victim, but what about the passover? What did the first born son do to deserve to die if a lamb wasn't put above the door? They were innocent, yet God killed them.
Again, I'll reitterate what I said earlier: if something good happens, it's an act of God. If something bad happens, the person was crazy and trying to use God as an excuse. That's always how it works, but neither can actually be proven.
