What is "Next Generation" to you?

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Which Next Generation Feature is most important to you?

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What is "Next Generation" to you?

Postby JaoSming on Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:29 am

Just a simple question, you can go into detail if you wish.
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Postby BigKaboom2 on Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:30 pm

1. We can't keep calling the 360 and PS3 next-gen - makes no sense anymore.

2. Graphics are the only thing revolutionary about these consoles as I see it. There's nothing noticeably different regarding overall gameplay yet.
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Postby JaoSming on Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:39 pm

eh until the PS2 dies, its NG to me


And I realize that graphics are the only thing to change right now.....but I'm asking what is more important to you buying these games. Would you rather want them look great, play great, or revolutionize the way you play with friends or other people online.
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Postby Fitzy on Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:30 pm

next gen=something i cant afford
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Postby -Young Buck- on Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:26 pm

Next gen is...

Graphics, of course with every new console there is updated machines that have alot better graphics.

Online, its important these days, its almost a given in games now. If a game doesnt have online play, then its going to be frowned upon. Unless its a game that just cant do anything online with.

Controls, look at skate....this is skateboarding "next gen" compared to tony hawks controls which are from ps1.

These are easy to say are next gen, but with better consoles should come better programming.

Gameplay, i expect enemies in games to have higher IQ. I expect gameplay to be smarter.

Modes, I think one thing that we will see more and more are in game video capturing. Tony hawk PG, Halo 3, Skate, and other games are starting to have ways to take your gameplay and record it and upload it to show your friends. Things like this are great for almost any game.

For instance....Tony Hawk and Smackdown are examples of games that were made during PS1, and are still pretty much living off that. The only thing next gen about these games are the use of analog and the graphics. They havent made a big leap yet. Tony hawk games have done stuff like Nail the Trick, THPG will have the replay editor, but the game itself is still pretty much the same. Controls are stale and old. Thats where skate comes in. Their control scheme yells out "next gen". Smackdown has been riding its game since the first version. Really, the only thing thats different these days is hot spots, graphics, and some submission moves. Really that is not big enough leap over 8 or so years. I mean Raw for xbox had replays, custom tracks for your CAWS music intro, hell even No Mercy had where you could edit the wrestlers attire. These things arent even in the newest versions of smackdown. They really could go the extra step and add some of these things, along with a replay editor, and alot more little things that would make a big difference. But they just update the roster, add new hot spots, change the story mode and call it a new game. Those two games need to stop living off their past games, and revolutionize them to make them fresh. Right now both those games are old and past their prime, and their companies are just riding the cash cow because most people will buy those games just because of the name on the front. But i have a feeling Skate is going to sell more then THPG, because its next gen, its new, and people are tired of the same old tony hawk games that they keep riding. Its just too bad that there isnt another company like 2k that could make a wwe game and take THQ on.
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Postby benji on Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:13 am

"Next Gen" is creating a game that could not have been done on the generation before it.

Yeah, Gears of War, BioShock, etc. all look better than last gen. But if you think they couldn't have been done on the last Xbox, albeit with lower production values, you're silly.

Last gen games could have never been done on the generation before it. Can't say that about this generation so far.

Microsoft started this generation too soon, so the Xbox got knocked off, and we're getting a current gen trickle of games that half belong on that console.
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Postby Tuomas on Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:34 am

benji wrote:"Next Gen" is creating a game that could not have been done on the generation before it.

I still haven't come across a 360 game that gameplay-wise couldn't be done on last gen consoles.

My friend and I talked about this for a while recently. There still isn't a game that takes advantage of the new technology to provide new aspects to gameplay. I don't know what they could be, I don't design games, I play them. Resistance for ps3 is an average shooter, I'd rather play Halo on the xbox. Live 08 is a disaster, I'd rather pick up any of the older games. There isn't really any game that stands out. Halo 3 is a good game but it could easily be ported to the first xbox by just dropping the graphics, there's nothing new.

I'm still waiting for a game that will take gaming forward with these new consoles, but it seems that it isn't about required hardware anymore, it's about innovations.
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Postby Sauru on Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:00 am

next gen to me is nothing but a buzz word some jerk off used to help generate sales. computers have been being upgraded for years and no one ever called the latest vid card "next gen". its all stupid
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Postby Matthew on Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:06 am

Playstation 4, xbox 720 and I'd prefer not to think about what the next wii will be called.
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Postby shadowgrin on Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:27 pm

Matthew wrote:what the next wii will be called

Woo.
HE'S USING HYPNOSIS!
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Postby McDwyane on Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:52 pm

next gen----very nice and cool graphics
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Postby ThaLiveKing on Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:54 pm

NExt gen is when the game looks like REAL people. . .This gen should be called Hi-Def Gen
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Postby Andrew on Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:50 pm

I would like to see Next Generation games deliver in the gameplay department as it seems a given that new technology will be inevitably put to use in developing graphics and textures that are at least in some way better than the previous generation of hardware. I agree with -Young Buck-, better AI and further innovation in areas such as the controls and game modes is a must as well.

I also agree that online gaming is obviously going to be a big part of the future of video games, which I'm in two minds about because while I think that online play is important and being able to set up leagues and tournaments and play against gamers from around the world is certainly cool, I've never been all that big on online gameplay so I would not like to see single player modes or gameplay ignored or phased out.
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Postby Lean on Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:15 pm

Next Gen is something I can't have. :(

To me, a game can be considered Next Gen if there's great advancement to gameplay compared to the other games of its time.
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Postby k-d on Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:25 am

Next Gen= Amazing Graphic Detail, and advanced AI.

By the way.. any chance to get Nba Live 09 in next-gen, Andrew?
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Postby Lean on Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:11 pm

k-d wrote:By the way.. any chance to get Nba Live 09 in next-gen, Andrew?


We have to wait for one whole year again.
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Postby McDwyane on Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:55 pm

By the way.. any chance to get Nba Live 09 in next-gen, Andrew?

I already asked he said no.But it's near.
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Postby -Young Buck- on Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:55 pm

Next gen is playing a wrestling game where detection isnt an issue, wrestlers dont flip flop upon landing on an opponent after a top rope move, and where tables, ladders, and chairs dont disappear into thin air after use.
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Postby The X on Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:07 pm

Andrew wrote:I would like to see Next Generation games deliver in the gameplay department as it seems a given that new technology will be inevitably put to use in developing graphics and textures that are at least in some way better than the previous generation of hardware. I agree with -Young Buck-, better AI and further innovation in areas such as the controls and game modes is a must as well.

I also agree that online gaming is obviously going to be a big part of the future of video games, which I'm in two minds about because while I think that online play is important and being able to set up leagues and tournaments and play against gamers from around the world is certainly cool, I've never been all that big on online gameplay so I would not like to see single player modes or gameplay ignored or phased out.

agreed....I find a lot of PS3/Xbox 360 games are geared towards online use....I've had people at video games stores say a game is superb online, so I just say I'm not interested in that & walk away :lol: I don't have time to play online....good for students I guess, but it's too much of a hassle as leisure time is very restricted (another reason I want in-game saves back in Live), you just want to pop it in & play straight away....another concern for me with the advent of online is this micro-payment crap....we use to get this stuff included in the original game....now we've got to pay on top of that?!? I think over time it could push more casual people into PC gaming, just for patching & stuff that you don't have to pay for....
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Postby Matthew on Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:00 pm

How many online games did you guys play, and what games were they?
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Postby keem21 on Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:03 am

Next Gen for me is amazing graphics and amazing gamplay in one package..
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Postby Andrew on Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:41 am

McDwyane wrote:
By the way.. any chance to get Nba Live 09 in next-gen, Andrew?

I already asked he said no.But it's near.


I didn't say anything of the sort; I do not know whether NBA Live 09 for the PC will be ported from the Xbox 360/PS3 version or not. I merely speculated that as the PS2 version is phased out we might see the Xbox 360/PS3 version ported to the PC. That's certainly far from being a fact though and could well be wishful thinking. In any event, I was merely speculating on the future of the series, not reporting any facts.
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Postby McDwyane on Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:33 pm

^K Andrew,i really hope so.
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