Smoke it up....

[Doobie]

Wow, I used to love this song by Ludacris but I had no idea that they made a video. Is this the greatest video in mankind or is all of it fake? A pothead heaven, anyways to promote discusion, how many of you smoke or have smoked weed? I've done it a couple times but rarely.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-Qy9lHqQZ64

Wouldn't you want to share that big ass blunt with him?

[NBA_Bryant24]

how many of you smoke or have smoked weed? I've done it a couple times but rarely.

1: Honstly I don't think many people have done it in this forum I haven't
2:Why the fuck would you do weed man its just plain stupied sure ive heard from others who have done that you laugh at practicly anything and then when u wake up u feel like shit.
3:Under your name it says Don't Do Drugs.I believe marujana is a drug

[hipn]

IRONY!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

[Oznogrd]

Ok thats it...i gotta come back at this....dont talk about things you dont NBA Bryant: "i havent" referring to weed...so dont comment on what you dont know...also, you dont get hung over from weed, waking up feeling like shit is probly from staying up all night stoned, not from the weed

1. i have smoked weed only once but that is due to access not due to not wanting to. I believe it is less dangerous than tobacco and alcohol and still do not understand why it is illegal
2. The "sit around and do nothing" stereotype is bullshit. I know many stoners, and they dont sit around their house all damn day like people seem to think. Many stoners are businessmen...shit dont believe me? look at the site www.insomniacookies.com and tell me thats not a stoner idea
3. Some of the greatest music and movies ever made have been done completely stoned: most of the beatles, most of bob marley, etc.....It is fully possible that weed could have an unknown quality to the general public that truly does bring you closer with whatever runs this universe...

[Scorer--20]

Some of the greatest music and movies ever made have been done completely stoned: most of the beatles, most of bob marley, etc.....It is fully possible that weed could have an unknown quality to the general public that truly does bring you closer with whatever runs this universe...

im 100% agree with that

[Buckley]

just to add a thought, there was a user name the GOAT (many of you know him well) who landed in juvi after threatening to stab an officer with a knife, as a result of being stoned. i here quote his feelings about weed, compared to cigs...

I don't see the point in smoking. Weed I could understand. You get high. Cigs do nothing. At least get high if your gonna ruin your body.

[Oznogrd]

cwebb...no that kid had issues way before he ever got stoned....i'm sick of this mythology...the stoned thing was an excuse, the kid would've been smart enough to threaten an office while sober, but he definitely would've thought it...its his own dumbass fault for threatening the officer....i have a friend who has been repeatedly raped while stoned, but its not due to being stoned, its her low ass self esteem and her wanting to make an excuse...

[Buckley]

cwebb...no that kid had issues way before he ever got stoned....i'm sick of this mythology...the stoned thing was an excuse, the kid would've been smart enough to threaten an office while sober, but he definitely would've thought it...its his own dumbass fault for threatening the officer....i have a friend who has been repeatedly raped while stoned, but its not due to being stoned, its her low ass self esteem and her wanting to make an excuse...

how would you know....this happened before you joined the fourms.

[Oznogrd]

because cwebb, drugs do not CAUSE a damn thing, people act like they do. Yes they affect your thought process, but it does not AUTOMATICALLY make people act like idiots...the people make that choice althought it maybe subconscious. If you smoked a joint right now, you wouldnt go threaten a cop would you? I'm telling you, anyone who acts like that while stoned had other issues and needed psychological help

[Riot]

The first thing I'm going to say is I have never done drugs and never will. Nothing good can come from getting high. Nothing. The rest of this thread is dedicated to illini and the rest of the stoners who think marijuana should be legalized and doesn't harm you.

1). Studies show smoking marijuana is just as harmful to the lungs as smoking cigarettes. When you smoke weed you are hurting your lungs. (Source)

2). During your "high", you lose the ability to complete and do many tasks and you lose your short term memory. The effects are extremely similar to that of drinking extremely heavily. The possiblity of people driving high or getting involved in immature sexual behavior is extremely high. Not to mention it is practically impossible to study or learn when on marijuana. You have a lot of kids dropping out of school or skipping school to smoke weed in today's high schools. I see it everyday. It ruins lives because you think it is more important than school.

3). When you smoke marijuana your heart rate increases about 20-50 beats per minute. Your chance for a heart attack increases about four times during your "high period". You are putting your heart at risk when you smoke weed.

4). A study showed marijuana smokers are three times more likely to get cancer in the neck or head than non-smokers.

5). THC effects your IMMUNE SYSTEM. If you smoke pot your immune system will get weaker and weaker. Later in life that will hurt your bodies ability to fight diseases or viruses. It also increases your chance for tumors.

6). Mothers who use marijuana while pregnant can cause severe damage to their baby.

7). Research shows that smoking marijuana is more harmful to your lungs and body than smoking cigarettes. You breathe in deeper and hold the smoke in your lungs and that causes more damage to them than regular smoking. Plus, marijuana contains more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than cigarettes. It's more dangerous than cigarettes. It's more dangerous than alcohol.

You are a fool if you think it is a harmless drug. I think we have all atleast seen one case where marijuana has ruined someone's life. I know a few people that have dropped out of school because they are hooked on marijuana. They are now using other drugs as well as marijuana. There is a reason why it is called the gateway drug. I'm not saying if you do marijuana you will drop out of school and die sooner than me but the odds are against you. It's your life though...you can gamble with it all you want. I hope your gamble doesn't come back to kill you...literally.

[Oznogrd]

no...marijuana hasnt ruined anyones life, their addiction to getting high is what ruins their life, they use it as an escape rather than dealing with their life...and that is where the non physiological problems come in and make people do shit like threaten cops, get raped, or attempt to fly. You are right about the physiology but tobacco and alcohol are JUST AS BAD...how many fuckers fall drunken off balconies? how many people choke on their own puke? and whats that stat on the tobacco industry...isnt it something ridiculous like 1000 and some change people a DAY from tobacco?.....yet they are legal cuz they are big business. Weed has never been proven to be addictive...the people have addictive personalities. I am not a stoner nor will i ever be one (as you said, it fucks with your lungs and my lungs cant handle it that much).....but i know plenty of decent hardworking people who are and just because one guy fucks up and drops out of school doesnt mean everyone on weed will. Hell, our valedictorian was a drunk in high school...i just want people to stop blaming the drugs and start taking responsibility
and out of curiosity....got links to those studies? i'm not disagreeing completley with you and if the studies are legit, you may even convince me, but i need more proof than "there was a study" because most studies are run looking for a specific answer...I know i sound like a paranoid liberal cynic, and maybe i am, but i've found out all those "carcinogens" were on rats eating 50 times their own body weight of it...i mean damn i'd get a tumor too if i ate that much sweet n low....I will respect your point of view because you have your reasons, just know that i have mine also and we can have civil discussion, i get a little too heated as above and against cwebb but i'm sick of "he did this cuz he was stoned" mythology, he did it cuz he was an idiot who happened to be stoned...

[Dean]

With a name like DoobieKnicks, i expected you to have.
Ive done it twice.
Never again.
Experimental phase

[cyanide]

Weed has never been proven to be addictive...the people have addictive personalities.

I would have to agree with that, and so all alcohol and cigarettes should be outlawed as well.

i just want people to stop blaming the drugs and start taking responsibility

You mean to take greater responsibility to not take drugs?

[R.J.]

no...marijuana hasnt ruined anyones life, their addiction to getting high is what ruins their life, they use it as an escape rather than dealing with their life...and that is where the non physiological problems come in and make people do shit like threaten cops, get raped, or attempt to fly. You are right about the physiology but tobacco and alcohol are JUST AS BAD...how many fuckers fall drunken off balconies? how many people choke on their own puke? and whats that stat on the tobacco industry...isnt it something ridiculous like 1000 and some change people a DAY from tobacco?.....yet they are legal cuz they are big business. Weed has never been proven to be addictive...the people have addictive personalities. I am not a stoner nor will i ever be one (as you said, it fucks with your lungs and my lungs cant handle it that much).....but i know plenty of decent hardworking people who are and just because one guy fucks up and drops out of school doesnt mean everyone on weed will. Hell, our valedictorian was a drunk in high school...i just want people to stop blaming the drugs and start taking responsibility
and out of curiosity....got links to those studies? i'm not disagreeing completley with you and if the studies are legit, you may even convince me, but i need more proof than "there was a study" because most studies are run looking for a specific answer...I know i sound like a paranoid liberal cynic, and maybe i am, but i've found out all those "carcinogens" were on rats eating 50 times their own body weight of it...i mean damn i'd get a tumor too if i ate that much sweet n low....I will respect your point of view because you have your reasons, just know that i have mine also and we can have civil discussion, i get a little too heated as above and against cwebb but i'm sick of "he did this cuz he was stoned" mythology, he did it cuz he was an idiot who happened to be stoned...

I didn't even try to read that post, try posting with some correct grammar and punctuation.

[Oznogrd]

well cyanide, theres a couple ways to do it....A)could happen but probly wont the way you mentioned: not taking drugsb) if you must take drugs, be smart about it, get high in your house, dont get high in your car, have one person in the group be sober etc....ya know most of these guys are just asking for it when they are stoned and they try to challenge cops etc.

[Old School Fool]

no...marijuana hasnt ruined anyones life, their addiction to getting high is what ruins their life, they use it as an escape rather than dealing with their life...and that is where the non physiological problems come in and make people do shit like threaten cops, get raped, or attempt to fly. You are right about the physiology but tobacco and alcohol are JUST AS BAD...how many fuckers fall drunken off balconies? how many people choke on their own puke? and whats that stat on the tobacco industry...isnt it something ridiculous like 1000 and some change people a DAY from tobacco?.....yet they are legal cuz they are big business. Weed has never been proven to be addictive...the people have addictive personalities. I am not a stoner nor will i ever be one (as you said, it fucks with your lungs and my lungs cant handle it that much).....but i know plenty of decent hardworking people who are and just because one guy fucks up and drops out of school doesnt mean everyone on weed will. Hell, our valedictorian was a drunk in high school...i just want people to stop blaming the drugs and start taking responsibility
and out of curiosity....got links to those studies? i'm not disagreeing completley with you and if the studies are legit, you may even convince me, but i need more proof than "there was a study" because most studies are run looking for a specific answer...I know i sound like a paranoid liberal cynic, and maybe i am, but i've found out all those "carcinogens" were on rats eating 50 times their own body weight of it...i mean damn i'd get a tumor too if i ate that much sweet n low....I will respect your point of view because you have your reasons, just know that i have mine also and we can have civil discussion, i get a little too heated as above and against cwebb but i'm sick of "he did this cuz he was stoned" mythology, he did it cuz he was an idiot who happened to be stoned...

I didn't even try to read that post, try posting with some correct grammar and punctuation.

Try to not be a fucking grammar nazi.

[Oznogrd]

R.J...thats my posting style, long run on sentences, i apologize for not using commas and semicolons to your liking, you didnt read it fine but if you want me to improve PM me and suggest it rather than wasting thread space....

EDIT: Just realized my own stupid hypocrisy...i really gotta learn to leave my brain on for the entire day....

[Gundy]

I didn't even try to read that post, try posting with some correct grammar and punctuation.

Those are two separate thoughts. They need to be seperated with a period, not a colon.

[cyanide]

well cyanide, theres a couple ways to do it....A)could happen but probly wont the way you mentioned: not taking drugsb) if you must take drugs, be smart about it, get high in your house, dont get high in your car, have one person in the group be sober etc....ya know most of these guys are just asking for it when they are stoned and they try to challenge cops etc.

a) was more sarcasm, but I agree that addictive personalities are dangerous when it's being used in the wrong hands which lead me to point b:

b) being smart about drugs means not taking it at all. I don't know much about marijuana because I've never taken it at all, but when you got an addictive personality, a bottle of Jack Daniel's, and a family in your house, then that could be a recipe for disaster.

I didn't even try to read that post, try posting with some correct grammar and punctuation.

Those are two separate thoughts. They need to be seperated with a period, not a colon.

You mean separated with a comma? I'm almost scared to get into a grammar war myself because somebody's going to correct me.

[Oznogrd]

thats where i differ i think from most about being smart about drugs...of course abstinence is the best policy if you know you're that way, but if you're trying something out for instance...just know what you're getting into and be educated about what you're doing to your body, possibly to others/ the environment. Know every aspect, and if you still think you wanna try a drug, if you can manage to do it safely without harming others/affecting your life, i see no issues........Maybe its just my dumbass college kid mentality but I see people do stupid shit every weekend and chalk it up to I was stoned or I was drunk. I've been drunk many a time, and never once have I done something I regret because I know how alcohol affects me and i dont go over my limit and its hard for me to understand those who truly care so little bout their lives they cant control themselves

[BOSS]

To tell the truth, yes I did it like one, twice a week.

1. ) I am done with it and got off it a month and a half ago.
2. ) Caused alot of problems like coughing blood, lung and chest infections for me.
3. ) Hate it when your high and you gotta drive home.
4. ) Causing me to lose alot of endurance and affecting my health.

[Axel]

I've never smoked pot before, and have no intentions of doing so. Hell, I wouldn't even know where to get any if I did want to get high. I'm not for outlawing it though, as I think every stupid motherfucker out there should be able to kill him/herself however he/she pleases (alcohol, tobacco, cigarettes, pot). Let the idiots out there continue puffing away; current laws have done little to stop its usage, and I would rather our law enforcement officers focus on more important matters. I'm for legalizing marijuana so it can be taxed - at least make some good out of it.

[Ty-Land]

To tell the truth, yes I did it like one, twice a week.

1. ) I am done with it and got off it a month and a half ago.
2. ) Caused alot of problems like coughing blood, lung and chest infections for me.
3. ) Hate it when your high and you gotta drive home.
4. ) Causing me to lose alot of endurance and affecting my health.

Jesus! I never suffered any of those problems.

I used to smoke quite a bit, in my teenage years. Where I grow up it has the second highest amount of pot per capita in Australia after Nimbin. Yes, it's that bad. We used to by 1/4 ounces for fun. Used to pass the time when their was no surf or anything better to do. I went away on exchange when I was 16 and have only ever smoked twice since. Wasn't hard to give up at all. For me the problem was I came to the realisation there was better things to do with my time. Quite a few of my friends still smoke a bit, but nothing serious.

In my honest view I think alcohol is a much more dangerous 'drug' than weed just because you can smoke a lot of weed and still have a clue on whats going on. You never hear any stories of girls smoking to much and getting raped do you? (Well at least I haven't) Plus drinking makes people pretty agressive and angry. Weed usually makes people laid back and passive. But either way, I think pot should be illegal and avoided and people need to be educated, somehow, to drink responsibly which you'll all learn to do as you get older (rather than getting fucking wasted every single party/night out you just have enough to get all fuzzy and have a good time). And if anybody cares, I think smoking should be illegal cause out of the three that is the most ridiculous and harmful.

[Zoom]

Nimbin, lots of pot... damn Ty-Land, second highest amount of pot after Nimbin must be quite the place to live...

I've never taken drugs or smoked... I have mates who do. I just don't let them get to me and make sure they understand that it deosn't make you any cooler if you take it or not. Plus, it's my own choice. Don't let peer pressure get to you kids. Always understand you have the final choice

Anyways, I don't have any problem with it I guess. We know the health risks, if someone wants to take pot, you can't stop them. Same with just smoking cigs... I can't make someone to stop, it's their choice.

The thing is, although the government and cig companies put warnings and shit around the palce, no one takes any notice of it. I feel that in order to effectively cut down the population of smokers (because second hand smoking is more dangerous than smoking... so you want to limit smokers), you need to get to these people young. Don't let them start cause it's hard to stop.

[[Q]]

I've done it a few times in my life, and before I tried it to see what it was like, I decided to 1. Only do it when people are willing to smoke you out (let you smoke their stuff so no $ out of your pocket) and 2. Do it on special occasions (not more than once every 2 weeks) so I don't become dependent on it like my roommate... he's pretty much a full-blown pothead now, though he wasn't before.
Of course, I've stopped for a long while now in an effort to hit the weights and stay in shape for basketball. Plus, it probably doesn't help me to smoke if I get a little asthmatic playing bball... (My dad smoked a shitload of cigs when my mom was pregnant and when I was a kid)
Personally, I think marijuana isn't legal because the government doesn't tax it. They should legalize it and tax the shit out of it ot increase our revenue (or stop spending on wars). The only reason why tobacco is legal is because its roots are in the American way of life.
I mean, when we were a colony of England and for a while after becoming independent, white people used black slaves to grow tobacco did they not?
The government's preference for tobacco doesn't make much sense to me.
I hate it how in America the term "drugs" usually references weed, cocaine and "harder" drugs, but it usually does not include tobacco.