Rascism

[peaches]

This is the topic we're discussing in SOSE.

Where do you stand with rascism? Does it affect you?

I've been thinking about this alot as two England kids in my class get paid out heaps basically harrased about how they talk etc.

I put myself in their position and thought how i would of felt. I know if someone was rascist to me, i'd be furious.

My mate's parents are italian but he was born here but people give him shit about being 'half-half'
Fuck that, he was born here.. why isn't he equal? That's what annoys me.

I think this will bring up some decent discussion.

[J@3]

Weird... when I went to England I basically had god-like status because of the way I talked. I'm 1/2 Italian, and even when I was using my dad's last name (i.e, the Italian one) no one ever gave me shit about it.

I grew up in a small town out in the country, so it surprises me that a school in the city has more racism considering the complete diversity amongst people in Adelaide. I mean in my old town we had ONE foreign kid in the entire school. This was a school of 1,000 and we had 1 kid from another country (Fiji). In Adelaide, if anything the white people would be outnumbered... so it's surprising that they're not more accepting, then again there are alot of fuckwits over here.

I am interested though, the guy with the Italian parents, who are the kind of people who give him shit about it? Because virtually ALL of the Italians/Greeks you see around our age would have the exact family background. There's so many guys with Italian or Greek parents, who have never been to Italy/Greece but walk around acting like Australia is foreign to them. It's kinda funny to me because almost every single Italian/Greek/whatever you see here under the age of 25 would be "half-half" themselves

[Pera]

Well I'm not the a racist and I don't wanna be one.To me all people are equal.I'm really pissed off,when some kids make fun of my background.Just like your mate I have a diffrent background then the country that I live in.My parents are Croatian,but I was born here in Slovenia,but still some people treat me like shit .So what is wrong with my parents if they are Croatian?I just hate when people make racist remarks about your backgrounds.

[peaches]

In Adelaide, if anything the white people would be outnumbered... so it's surprising that they're not more accepting, then again there are alot of fuckwits over here.

Amen. About that Fijian kid, i seriously doubt anyone would pay him out.

I am interested though, the guy with the Italian parents, who are the kind of people who give him shit about it?

Stereotypical young aussie. At least the ignorant type.
It reminds me what happened in Cronulla, they say shit like "We grew here, you flew here"
My mates little brother had his rat tail cut off in a public bus because these Aussies thought he was a "Dirty Arab".

Its disgusting how much they use stereotypes, if your an asian; your a geek.. if your blonde, your a dumbass,
if your italian/greek you eat yiros and spend all day waxing your hair.

[hammertime23]

Well I live a dominantly white city in New York. My dad is black and my mom is white. I get made fun of sometimes, and people say stuff that gets me mad, even my friends joke about it sometimes. I respect my family though. I'm not even full black and i get called a nigger and stuff, and white people just stare at me when im walking down the street.

[Ruff Ryder]

Where do you stand with rascism? Does it affect you?

Heck yea. I'm one of about 10 African Americans in an predominately white school of about 600 kids. Here in ol' Virginia, especially where i go to school at, rednecks (not a stereotype, real rednecks) are everywhere. The name of my school is "Buffalo Gap" so you can figure for yourself. Anyway, I walked into the bathroom on the day before the last day of school (last week) just to see "I hate niggers" scratched into the stall wall. I've seen it written in permanent marker in our auditorium as well.

And some of them use the word so loosely it's not even funny. See, I'm a nice guy, very respectful and quiet in school, I never talk out of turn. Heck, I rarely talk at all in school. Anyway, I went to the snack room to get a drink and one of my "friends" and his redneck buddy was in there. They asked me if I had a dollar so I gave it to them out of generosity. They started kinda fighting over it, not real fighting, kinda friendly dispute and one of them said "Gimme that or I'll beat you like a nigger." They both immediately stopped and looked up and apologized.

And one time one kid had taken this girl's shoe and put it on the rim in the basketball goal. Then he was trying to get it down and threw another shoe at it and missed and was like "stupid nigger! Woops! I'm sorry, pretend you didn't hear that."

I'm just left speechless at times. Oh yea, once when I was in middle-school I was walking to History class and bumped into this guy and he said under his breath "move outta my way nigger." I was honestly surprised that he said that cuz I thought we were cool with eachother, we had been years before. I shoulda kicked his ass lol, except he was like 6 ft tall in 7th grade lol.

And when I'm in history class this year, there's so many stereotypes about minorities I honestly felt like picking up a desk and throwing it at the teacher. She's really stupid and blonde, 24 years old, and we were discussing Eisenhower's "Operation Wetback" which was a policy to remove illegal immigrants in the mid 1950s. Anyway, she didn't ever make the connection between wetbacks and Mexicans until someone told her, and she called Mexicans Wetbacks for the rest of the period. Someone even said they were offended (they're white) but she still called them that.

I can't stand that class. One time I was in class and some kid's like "does anybody have a picture of the Rebel Flag?" And some other kid's like "Remy (me) has it tatooed on his back! Hahahahahah!" I got shit like that all the time. I hate my school. I'll think of more later if I feel like it.

[hammertime23]

Yea my bathroom has KKK marked up everywhere, and people throw the word nigger around like they're rappers or something but they're white kids. It's kind of pitiful to know that my generation will end up like this.

[Scorer--20]

I dont see any difference in a black , white , chinese , argentinian or any person..
We are all the same thing PEOPLE . The communty still thinking like in the 1800
" The black guys just are slaves , you can sell or buy one " ITS FUCKING BAD

Im white , and i dont see diferences in the colour of the people ..

[cyanide]

Racism is still prevalent, but it's interesting to see racism from comedians. You see white guys and black guys poke fun at their own race and others, but a humourous perspective on stereotypes. I don't know if that sends a misguided message to the youth who don't understand that even though comedians poke fun at stereotypes doesn't mean it's ok to be racist. I laugh at the jokes, of course, I find them to be funny, but I wouldn't go out of my way to do the things that Remy described above.

[Big-D]

Im sick of racism myself. People give me shit because of the U.S immigration shit.

[Its_asdf]

I'm pretty much against racism and it's a terrible thing to associate people with, but I tend to crack a few racist jokes for fun once in a while with my friends.

[Axel]

"I hate niggers" scratched into the stall wall.

Sounds like the same type of place I live. Tons of real rednecks here in NC too... they sicken me. They write all sorts of shit all over the wall, most of it racist. I think a lot of their hate here has shifted from black to Mexican since there are so many moving in here.

Racism bothers me a lot, even though it isnt aimed at me. My dad isn't necesarily a huge bigot, but he says some stereotypical things which really irk me. A real common term here is "nigger rigging" (a makeshift way of fixing something) and I don't know why... it just pisses me off to no end. I think a lot of it is because in middle school I used to get tormented by the rednecks for being one of the smart kids who wouldn't share answers...

[BIG GREEN]

Oddly enough..i havent suffered too much obvious racism in my lifetime. New York is pretty hush hush on the subject...and i think me being a little intimidating has something to do with it.

[cklitsie]

Oddly enough..i havent suffered too much obvious racism in my lifetime. New York is pretty hush hush on the subject...and i think me being a little intimidating has something to do with it.

You fucking green #$@^$%&$! There you go..

[shadowgrin]

^^ It's hard being a racist to someone like Thug when they see themselves feeding through a straw if they ever have the guts to hurl racist remarks at him.

[Joe']

My mate's parents are italian but he was born here but people give him shit about being 'half-half'
Fuck that, he was born here.. why isn't he equal? That's what annoys me.

He's Italian... It's the same for me: All my grandparents are Italian (and my grandma was pregnant of my father when she went to Argentina) but my sisters, my mom, dad and I were born in Argentina. Still, when I were in Argentina, my whole family was Italian for law.
The fact that you're born in a country doesn't make you a citizen of that country. You're a citizen of the country your family comes from and you have to be proud of it, either if you come from Germany, Camerun, Sri Lanka or Venezuela.

Anyways what's wrong with being Italian/Half-Italian??
Things that bother me are people calling Italian immigrants "Mr.Macaroni" or "Mafia boy" or shit like that. If Mafia members are in Sicily doesn't mean that all Italians are Mafia members...

[Joe']

My mate's parents are italian but he was born here but people give him shit about being 'half-half'
Fuck that, he was born here.. why isn't he equal? That's what annoys me.

He's Italian... It's the same for me: All my grandparents are Italian (and my grandma was pregnant of my father when she went to Argentina) but my sisters, my mom, dad and I were born in Argentina. Still, when I were in Argentina, my whole family was Italian for law.
The fact that you're born in a country doesn't make you a citizen of that country. You're a citizen of the country your family comes from and you have to be proud of it, either if you come from Germany, Camerun, Sri Lanka or Venezuela.

Anyways what's wrong with being Italian/Half-Italian??
Things that bother me is people calling Italian immigrants "Mr.Macaroni" or "Mafia boy" or shit like that. If Mafia members are in Sicily doesn't mean that all Italians are Mafia members...

[shadowgrin]

The fact that you're born in a country doesn't make you a citizen of that country. You're a citizen of the country your family comes from

You're referring to the basic laws of citizenship.
It depends on the citizenship laws of the country. Some countries have jus sanguini or right of blood which means that the nationality of your parents determines your nationality, while jus soli or right of the territory means that your nationality is determined in the country/state you were born.

[Stevesanity]

Being of mixed race and specially being black and white can be very hard. I know alot of people didn't accept me cause I was neither white nor was I black. My Mom's an Italian American and My Dad is african-american. Some people in school and even certain family members (relations) would not accept me cause of this.

I'd have black kids say stuff "U Ain't No Nigga, U Ain't No Brotha, U Ain't even trash." and some white kids wouldn't hang out with me cause I was "Burnt". Now those are the ignorant ones I really don't give two shits about anymore and I have several friends from different backgrounds. Plenty of times I've had cars drive-by with kids (probably the lot - juvenille skinheads, skinheads and boneheads) in it shouting 'Nigger' or just driving slowly and throwing out white jokes but I can remember once someone shouted 'Cholo Mothafucka' and I actually started to laugh afterwards cause I just realised how bad people can be at judging a race of a person.

I think the most inviting and non-racist of communities are probably the south/sub-continental asians. I find them to be really friendly and not judge people on background and race, I dunno I know they themselves get much prejudice come their way but I've never felt that sense of racism around any of my friends from that region. Out of the europeans I'd say Italians, Greeks, Scandanavian people are probably the least racist cause most of my white friends are from those countries.

I have some really good friends (white/black/mexican etc), the ones that actually regard people as people and not cause their white, black, yellow or brown.

Thing about me is I'd probably pass off as south american cause I have that brazilian sorta tan (I'm actually not Mike Bibby/Doug Christie like) but if someone gets to know about my parents/background it's a whole different thing. Course my features also show that I'm not Latino so that's a give away too.

I'm proud of my parents and my background, I'm not going to hide it to people just so I can be closer to them. It's upto them to accept you, you can spend your whole life hating people cause of their race but in the end all you've accomplished is the title of another racist fuck.

As for people saying their not American and rather Italian or whatever I think that's mostly cause their either proud of their heritage of they just want to sound rebellious/another clone. I don't see any problem with people being proud about their background but if you lived your whole life in America be a Proud American first, you can always praise your roots so to speak but love your country and don't let the president and certain people make you be un-patriotic. Cause I sense that some kids don't want to be fully recognised as an American cause of the hate American people get these days. I know a majority does it for posing/teeny booper needs but their are some that proudly raise their 'home' flag which again I don't find wrong but it's a bit silly when you completely ignore the country you grew up and live in.

I use to live in an area where it was predominantly black and then moved to an area predominantly white, I'd have to say I hated living in those areas cause their was much more prejudice. Where I'm living now is great, it's sorta a mecca of multicultarism and theirs not a skinhead (skinheads can be black or white, never forget that) in sight. I really enjoy it here and you can go about more freely without having to watch your back although I do still have to pass by shitter hoods at times which tends to leave a bad experience.

[Colin]

The fact that you're born in a country doesn't make you a citizen of that country. You're a citizen of the country your family comes from

You're referring to the basic laws of citizenship.
It depends on the citizenship laws of the country. Some countries have jus sanguini or right of blood which means that the nationality of your parents determines your nationality, while jus soli or right of the territory means that your nationality is determined in the country/state you were born.

95% of the time I've seen it if you're parents are one citizens of country a and you're born in country b you can choose from 3 options. Citizen of country a, citizen of country b, and (most commonly) dual-citizenship of country a-b.

[Cable]

I really don't see racism where I live. We have the odd black guy, and a few asians, but besides that, we're all white. I think Canada's different from the US because in Canada no-one cares if you support your background country. A good example is right now with the World Cup. All of my friends are rooting for their 'home' country (probably because Canada's not in it, though). You could be purple and no-one would really care. We all joke around, of course, but none of it is serious.

[shadowgrin]

95% of the time I've seen it if you're parents are one citizens of country a and you're born in country b you can choose from 3 options. Citizen of country a, citizen of country b, and (most commonly) dual-citizenship of country a-b.

Like I said before:

It depends on the citizenship laws of the country

I think the U.S. basically follows the right of soil/territory principle.
Here in the Philippines it's the right of blood principle, so if you were born in the U.S. and one of your parents are Filipino, you could either choose the 3 options mentioned. The only clause for dual-citizenship here is that you must apply before age 21, when past that age you can only choose 1 nationality.

[Riot]

Despite what some people think on here, I am not racist. Do I do some racial profiling? You know, maybe I do and maybe I don't. If you give me a reason to hate you I will. That is the bottom line. I don't care if you are white, black or asian. Just don't do something stupid. I have no reason to hate anyone because of their skin because who am I to judge?

Some people think I am "racist" towards Muslims (which as some have pointed out, isn't even a race). That is false. I think it's pretty well known that I think all terrorists are dirtbags and should burn in hell. The majority of terrorism and violence is centered around the Middle East, where it mostly Arabs. I'd be lying if I said I love Islam because I don't (but then again, I don't love any religion) but I know it's a peaceful religion and the people who use it for violence are shitbags. Everyone (and I mean everyone) should have equal oppertunities and chances in life. That is why I am pro-democracy and pro-War in Iraq. The Iraqi people deserve to be free and get away from the tyrant rule of Saddam and his family. It doesn't matter if you are white or black or whatever, you deserve to have chance. That's all I care about.

[J@3]

The fact that you're born in a country doesn't make you a citizen of that country. You're a citizen of the country your family comes from and you have to be proud of it, either if you come from Germany, Camerun, Sri Lanka or Venezuela.

How can you say a guy who was born in Australia, lived here his entire life, has never even been to Italy but is Italian because his parents are? That's being of Italian heritage, it doesn't make you an Italian citizen though. Half of the Australian World Cup team have parents from different countries but they all consider themselves Australian. The country you live in for the majority of your life is far more influencial than where your parents come from.

[peaches]

Agreed ^

My friend was born and raised in Australia but his parents were born in Italy.
How can that make him any less Australian like the next guy who was born here as well as his parents.