Iraq had nuclear material; Kerry promises to provide Iran

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Iraq had nuclear material; Kerry promises to provide Iran

Postby benji on Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:06 am

Professor Norman Dombey, professor of theoretical physics at the University of Sussex, England, has confirmed that Saddam Hussein had more than enough yellowcake uranium to make over 100 nuclear weapons. There was no conceivable peaceful use for this material in Iraq. The United Nations agency responsible for monitoring Iraq's nuclear efforts turned a blind eye to this stockpile.

Really Professor?
Dombey wrote:Iraq already had far more uranium than it needed for any conceivable nuclear weapons programme.

Not only that, but there was no peaceful use for development of the yellowcake into nuclear fuel, since both the French and Russian reactors had been destroyed decades ago. Yet personnel from the Defense Threat Reduction Agency noted the presence of depleted uranium onsite. This means that some enrichment did, in fact, take place since depleted uranium is a natural byproduct of the enrichment process.

[Professor Dombey also does the math in calculating the weapons potential for this huge amount of nuclear material]

You have a warehouse containing 500 tons of natural uranium; you need 25 kilograms of U235 to build one weapon. How many nuclear weapons can you build? The answer is 142.

But what has aspiring President Kerry vowed to do about the proliferation of nuclear material in the hands of terrorist stats?

Give nuclear material to Iran.
Thirdly, he has proposed that rather than letting the British, the French and the Germans do this themselves, that we together call the bluff of the Iranian government, which claims that its only need is energy. And we say to them: “Fine, we will provide you the fuel that you need if Russia fails to provide it.”

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Iran claims that its nuclear program is only to meet its domestic energy needs. John Kerry’s proposal would call their bluff by organizing a group of states to offer Iran the nuclear fuel they need for peaceful purposes and take back the spent fuel so they cannot divert it to build a weapon. If Iran does not accept this offer, their true motivations will be clear.

So, Kerry has not only vowed to not prevent terrorist attacks (see his DNC acceptance speech), he has also promised to provide Iran with nuclear material (to call their bluff to see if they'll use it for weapons!)

I mean, it worked so well with North Korea.

John Kerry = Jimmy Carter v2.0
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Postby Dramacydal on Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:13 am

interesting read. ive found a quite interesting article aswell. i wont comment though since im fed up with all this back and forth, we both got our opinions and wont change em so fuck it. anyway, here it is:

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We have learned that President George W. Bush is taking powerful anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia.

The prescription drugs, administered by Col. Richard J. Tubb, the White House physician, can impair the President’s mental faculties and decrease both his physical capabilities and his ability to respond to a crisis, administration aides admit privately.

“It’s a double-edged sword,” says one aide. “We can’t have him flying off the handle at the slightest provocation but we also need a President who is alert mentally.”

Angry Bush walked away from reporter's questions. Tubb prescribed the anti-depressants after a clearly-upset Bush stormed off stage on July 8, refusing to answer reporters' questions about his relationship with indicted Enron executive Kenneth J. Lay.

“Keep those motherfuckers away from me,” he screamed at an aide backstage. “If you can’t, I’ll find someone who can.”

Bush’s mental stability has become the topic of Washington whispers in recent months. Capitol Hill Blue first reported on June 4 about increasing concern among White House aides over the President’s wide mood swings and obscene outbursts.

Although GOP loyalists dismissed the reports an anti-Bush propaganda, the reports were later confirmed by prominent George Washington University psychiatrist Dr. Justin Frank in his book Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President. Dr. Frank diagnosed the President as a “paranoid meglomaniac” and “untreated alcoholic” whose “lifelong streak of sadism, ranging from childhood pranks (using firecrackers to explode frogs) to insulting journalists, gloating over state executions and pumping his hand gleefully before the bombing of Baghdad” showcase Bush’s instabilities.

“I was really very unsettled by him and I started watching everything he did and reading what he wrote and watching him on videotape. I felt he was disturbed,” Dr. Frank said. “He fits the profile of a former drinker whose alcoholism has been arrested but not treated.”

Dr. Frank’s conclusions have been praised by other prominent psychiatrists, including Dr. James Grotstein, Professor at UCLA Medical Center, and Dr. Irvin Yalom, MD, Professor Emeritus at Stanford University Medical School.

The doctors also worry about the wisdom of giving powerful anti-depressant drugs to a person with a history of chemical dependency. Bush is an admitted alcoholic, although he never sought treatment in a formal program, and stories about his cocaine use as a younger man haunted his campaigns for Texas governor and his first campaign for President.

“President Bush is an untreated alcoholic with paranoid and megalomaniac tendencies,” Dr. Frank adds.

The White House did not return phone calls seeking comment on this article.

Although the exact drugs Bush takes to control his depression and behavior are not known, White House sources say they are “powerful medications” designed to bring his erratic actions under control. While Col. Tubb regularly releases a synopsis of the President’s annual physical, details of the President’s health and any drugs or treatment he may receive are not public record and are guarded zealously by the secretive cadre of aides that surround the President.

Veteran White House watchers say the ability to control information about Bush’s health, either physical or mental, is similar to Ronald Reagan’s second term when aides managed to conceal the President’s increasing memory lapses that signaled the onslaught of Alzheimer’s Disease.

It also brings back memories of Richard Nixon’s final days when the soon-to-resign President wandered the halls and talked to portraits of former Presidents. The stories didn’t emerge until after Nixon left office.

One long-time GOP political consultant who – for obvious reasons – asked not to be identified said he is advising his Republican Congressional candidates to keep their distance from Bush.

“We have to face the very real possibility that the President of the United States is loony tunes,” he says sadly. “That’s not good for my candidates, it’s not good for the party and it’s certainly not good for the country.”
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Postby Riot on Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:53 pm

Where's Al Sharpton? he's the best.
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Postby benji on Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:58 am

Dramacydal wrote:i wont comment though since im fed up with all this back and forth, we both got our opinions and wont change em so fuck it.

This isn't an opinion. I bring facts and the truth about the Islamofascists that are planning to kill millions.

You simply have this childish hatred for Bush that has no basis in fact.

You won't comment because you're wrong, always. And people know it when there are facts left and right that prove your looney theories wrong.

You should stop supporting and defending the Islamofascists and their terrorist thug allies.
This Is Your Brain On Drugs

You know what's interesting, I provide actual factual reports. You get a satire STOLEN (the article you quoted no longer has the references to Democrats.com ally Capitol Hill Blues) from a left-wing website and pass it off as fact.
Where's Al Sharpton? he's the best.

You mean the guy that joined in framing a cop for rape ruining his life? You mean the guy that started a riot that resulted in six dead?
USA election 2004 blows big time. Both candidate suck !

No. We have one candidate who has vowed to win the war and one who has vowed to kill us all.
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Postby benji on Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:33 am

Teheran's request, said by British officials to have "gone down very badly", sharply raises the stakes in the crisis over Iran's nuclear programme, which Britain and America believe is aimed at making an atomic bomb.

Iran's move came during crisis talks in Paris this month with senior diplomats from Britain, France and Germany.

The "EU-3" were trying to convince Iranian officials to honour an earlier deal to suspend its controversial uranium enrichment programme, which is ostensibly designed to make fuel for nuclear power stations but could also be used to make fissile material for nuclear bombs.

Iranian officials refused point-blank to comply, saying they had every right under international law to pursue "peaceful" nuclear technology.

They then stunned the Europeans by presenting a letter setting out their own demands.

Iran said the EU-3 should support Iran's quest for "advanced (nuclear) technology, including those with dual use" - a reference to equipment that has both civilian and military applications.

The Europeans should "remove impediments" preventing Iran from having such technology, and stick to these commitments even if faced with "legal (or) political . . . limitations", an allusion to American pressure or even future international sanctions against Iran.

More astonishingly, Iran said the EU-3 should agree to meet Iran's requirements for conventional weapons and even "provide security assurances" against a nuclear attack on Iran.
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Postby ATTENTIONWHORE on Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:35 am

My vote goes to...eh...Ross Perot. Wait, whatever happened to that guy? Does he live in a cave in Montana with no electricity like he was planning the U.S. to do???
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Postby Jackal on Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:37 am

*sigh* Since Benji wants argument...

Bush sucks.

Tell me why he doesn't.
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Postby benji on Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:47 am

LankyMan wrote:My vote goes to...eh...Ross Perot. Wait, whatever happened to that guy? Does he live in a cave in Montana with no electricity like he was planning the U.S. to do???

No, he wasn't. He ran in '92 and '96 but both parties co-opted his ideas in order to prevent him from thwarting them again in a future election.
*sigh* Since Benji wants argument...

Bush sucks.

Tell me why he doesn't.

Good work, PJ. :roll:
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Postby ATTENTIONWHORE on Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:52 am

No, he wasn't. He ran in '92 and '96 but both parties co-opted his ideas in order to prevent him from thwarting them again in a future election.

Sucks For Him...Dan Quail also... :lol:
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Postby Riot on Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:53 am

uh...yes that Al Sharpton....
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Postby Carlos Boozer on Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:58 am

George bush drools :?She said he wants to destroy america :lol:
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Postby Dramacydal on Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:48 pm

benji wrote:This isn't an opinion.


oh yes, it is.

You simply have this childish hatred for Bush


no i dont. i dislike him and his policy for reasons.

You won't comment because you're wrong, always.


:lol: lmao. i wont comment for the reasons that i mentioned earlier
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Postby Stevan on Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:36 pm

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...I like pineapple.

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Postby J@3 on Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:05 pm

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Postby benji on Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:54 am

Dramacydal wrote:oh yes, it is.

No, it isn't you traitor. The FACT that Saddam Hussein had WMD, aimed to acquire nuclear arms, supported terrorists and wanted to murder millions is not an opinion.
no i dont. i dislike him and his policy for reasons.

Because you want to see the Islamofascists win this war and murder millions until we submit to the Caliphate. One hopes they murder traitorous scumbags like you first.
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.

The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program.

The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.

UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on June 9 that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap metal, and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials within the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being traded out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very old, and slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."

"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported that inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.

He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month. Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.

The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters – the latter required for the production of chemical and biological warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's spokesman, said. "You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."

The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to such countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was discovered in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20 SA-2 engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.

"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through these yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really assess the significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be going on there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."

UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam regime. Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in Turkey.

In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of the country.

U.S. intelligence suspects Iraq's weapons of mass destruction have finally been located.

Unfortunately, getting to them will be nearly impossible for the United States and its allies, because the containers with the strategic materials are not in Iraq.

Instead they are located in Lebanon's heavily-fortified Bekaa Valley, swarming with Iranian and Syrian forces, and Hizbullah and ex-Iraqi agents, Geostrategy-Direct.com will report in Wednesday's new weekly edition.

U.S. intelligence first identified a stream of tractor-trailer trucks moving from Iraq to Syria to Lebaon in January 2003. The significance of this sighting did not register on the CIA at the time.

U.S. intelligence sources believe the area contains extended-range Scud-based missiles and parts for chemical and biological warheads.

Mutually-lucrative Iraqi-Syrian arms transactions are nothing new. Firas Tlas, son of Syrian Defense Minister Mustafa Tlas, has been the key to Syria's rogue alliance with Iraq. He and Assad made hundreds of millions of dollars selling weapons, oil and drugs to and from Iraq, according to the May 13, 2003 edition of Geostrategy-Direct.com.
The CIA now believes a multi-million dollar deal between Iraq and Syria provided for the hiding and safekeeping of Saddam's strategic weapons.

Not surprisingly, U.S. inquiries in Beirut and Syria are being met with little substantive response, U.S. officials said.
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Postby Dramacydal on Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:13 am

benji wrote:...Saddam Hussein had WMD, aimed to acquire nuclear arms, supported terrorists and wanted to murder millions is not an opinion.


:lol: as if i only dislike him for that iraq war :roll:
look, i watched his policy, read what all different type of media wrote about him, listened to what his opponents said, listened to what the pro-bush people said, thought about it and DANG :idea: i got something called opinion of my own :shock:


Because you want to see the Islamofascists win this war and murder millions until we submit to the Caliphate.

its funny to see how you think you know what i want :roll:
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Postby Stevan on Fri Aug 13, 2004 6:05 pm

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Postby Matthew on Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:02 pm

i got something called opinion of my own

Care to share?
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Postby Jackal on Fri Aug 13, 2004 9:20 pm

I think I know the answer to that one.

Bush is a liar, he's stupid and he's a war monger. :?:

That's what all Anti-Bush people say.
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Postby Stevan on Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:11 am

Because you want to see the Islamofascists win this war and murder millions until we submit to the Caliphate. One hopes they murder traitorous scumbags like you first.

Please refrain from wishing death on fellow forumers.
Thank you.

LUV STEVAN XOXOXOXO!! :)

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Postby J@3 on Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:16 am

LUV STEVAN XOXOXOXO!!

Kobe: Don't drop the soap


Lol dude you should take your own advice :D
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Postby Guest on Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:32 am

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Postby Stevan on Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:59 pm

Lol Beef Eater, I didn't make it :)

Whoever did though, didn't do too bad a job (y) :)
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