There was the "TUPAC" topic, which started such a huge argument. My posts those days were rather close-minded and immature.
http://web.archive.org/web/20011006134102/www.sportplanet.com/nbalive/forum/
Ben wrote:pfft...he's worse than Mystikal...
Ben wrote:lyrically Tupac falls mainly into that category of uncreative rappers rapping about being thugs, etc...if I wanted to hear about Thugs I'd talk to Thug on MSN...but I don't...so we talk about games and such...but...that's not the point
I think it was that, that got me all boiling up. Then Ben started doubting that he wrote his music. Mistake, mistake...
There is written proof Tupac wrote his music huh? Official huh? Approved by a dead man? it's in Books, movies, CD booklets? eh? so...if i go...and put in a book, a movie, a cd booklet, and claim it's official that Willie Burton is better than Michael Jordan...it's a fact? because that's the logic you're using...
And I kept fighting, I was like...
And it is official. There is a big difference between just writing and it being in the booklet. Just like there is a difference between a CD you buy at stores and a CD that burn. There is copyright on the CD you buy.
See, I wasn't that smart...
I wrote:If you copyright your CD then you're probably breaking the law or something. Everyone knows that Tupac wrote his music. And the people who don't belive it are dumbasses. When I was about to prove you wrong when you thought that other rappers had done music like Tupacs(when they hadn't), you changed the subject by doubting if he even wrote the music. What if he didn't? what if he did. HE FUCKEN DID. People have witnessed him doing it. It doesn't need proof. You see him doing it in some of his videos. HE DID.
So Ben goes...
again, you being closed minded about the fact that's it's possible Tupac never did anything at all and it was a white guy who looks like Craig Sager who really did it all...and you weren't there so you can't really say it...and I wasn't there so I can't say that's the true...but that's not the point...the point is THAT THE POSSIBILITY EXIST...
And I respond with a little nastiness:
A white guy who looks like Craig Sager couldn't think of those ideas that Tupac did. You seem to just trying to start drama. It is a fact. People who wanna start something would act like dumbasses and doubt it. Thats so low. It is a fact. It is not a myth. Not an opininion. The proof is in books, videos, etc. You want proof that these are true than my response is GO •••• YOURSELF BEN!!!
And I think this is what got me banned:
NOW END IT!! TUPAC WROTE HIS MUSIC!! FACT!! YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!!
•••• YOU BEN AND YOUR PAIL!!
So Ben tells me,
and there's another pail shot...you are the most immature and irrational poster I have ever seen...or can remember...
There was also another topic, revolving around Michael Jordan, in which we both disagreed on. I think I took a pail shot on that one too.
I don't think I ever apologized for all of that, either to Andrew or Ben, so I'm sorry...
I remember posting that... seems like yesterday... i emailed ben about it too, never got a reply though... I don't know why i cared... i was only 14! (i think)
damn, i thought for one time no one could tell me i was wrong