NLSC Greatest of All-time: #5

-7th number of the many

-#4 was won by Adrian Dantley

-#5 will probably come down to just two players

-You can vote for players in any way you want: On-court impact, Off-court impact, championships etc.

Nominees:

1. Kevin Garnett (2007-08 to 2012-13)

P/36	R/36	A/36	TS%	Ortg	Drtg	PER	Ws/48
18.3	9.7	3.2	.564	111	97	21.1	.191

* Was just past his prime, but he was amazing on the defensive end. Amazing. Won a DPOY and title in the process. He also noted another Finals appearance but lost.

Garnett remained a huge factor on the court during his Celtics days, but his last Celtic season was a clear drop-off which his BPM and VORP clearly show.

It's really just between him and Kidd for the title.

2. Carlos Boozer (2004-05 to 2014-15)

P/36	R/36	A/36	TS%	Ortg	Drtg	PER	Ws/48
19.5	11.0	2.7	.552	107	102	19.4	.140

* So the Bulls fans hate Boozer for not playing defense. That's true, he wasn't very good at it. But his scoring and rebounding numbers during his prime are clearly All-star level. He was efficient, but couldn't play really big minutes due to his performance on the defensive end and the fact he could easily get into foul trouble.

Still a good player.

3. Jason Kidd (2001-02 to 2006-07)

P/36	R/36	A/36	TS%	Ortg	Drtg	PER	Ws/48
14.5	6.9	8.7	.507	106	99	19.9	.154

* The best defensive point guard of the era and one of the best ever. His Nets team had some great defensive season during his time there, including finishing 1st,1st,4th,7th and 4th in the league.

Kidd wasn't good on offense, other than his terrific passing. He wasn't a scoring option and yet still managed to lead that Nets team to two straight Finals appearances. Amazing. The East was also pretty
damn weak in those years.

Luckily, he added a three point shot and had success with a team with offensive firepower later in his career.

I still think Garnett is going to take this one.

4. Josh Smith (2004-05 to 2012-13)

P/36	R/36	A/36	TS%	Ortg	Drtg	PER	Ws/48
16.2	8.4	3.4	.516	102	103	18.4	.099

*Remember that time where the whole NBA was saying Josh Smith was the next great foward ?

Those weren't all lies. He could run, rebounds, pass and defend at a high level. He was pretty much the perfect stretch 4 of/for this era, except one thing. He couldn't really shoot. What a bummer.

So he loves to shoot. Who doesn't ? It's just some players realize they can be more efficient to their teams success in other areas. It's really a shame Smith didn't turn out to be the perrenial All-star player he easily could've been.

5. Baron Davis (2005-06 to 2007-08)

P/36	R/36	A/36	TS%	Ortg	Drtg	PER	Ws/48
19.6	4.4	7.9	.517	109	107	19.8	.127

* Remember back in the #2 thread when I said Moses Malone shouldn't been penalized for wearing the number for a short tiime?

Davis should.

The only reason why I put him here is because of that amazing series where they knocked out the Mavs. You'll find Josh Howard in the shoutout secion of this post.

Davis was a good scorer and passer during his Golden State days, but he wasn't good enough of a player to be considered a threat to Kidd/Garnett. There are players who could've easily replaced him
in the votable opetion, but neither are good enough to make a difference in the end voting results.

Other Notable Player Shoutout

Josh Howard was a 18/7 and was actually relevant in those Mavs teams. Cuttino Mobley because his epic dunk contest reactions and scored a lot. Robert Horry because he won a lot of titles wearing that number. Also that shot agaisnt he Kings is one of the best NBA Playoff highlights ever. John Bagley had a few good years while wearing the number during his 11-year career. Steve Blake had some solid years with the Lakers. Rudy Fernandez was fun to watch during his Blazer days. Danny Manning was a pretty good scorer who averaged 20/7 on .549% TS during his prime. Jim McMillan had a solid career and should that should be noted. Ron Mercer because he was inefficient and still took a lot of shots. Billy Paultz because he had a good prime and was a notable defender.

Kendrick Perkins because fuck you. John Paxson because he wore the number when he won a few titles, with you know, the Bulls. Jalen Rose because of the Fab Five, getting 81 dropped on him and actually being a good offensive player during his prime. Dick Van Arsdale because Dick Van Arse sounds funny. He did score a lot. Tom Van Arsdale because he too scored a lot. Juwan Howard was a 17/7 not so efficient guy but still got paid a lot of money. Fab Five baby.

Last edited by Mandich on Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:27 pm, edited 3 times in total.

Jason Kidd clear winner for me

john paxson. next




ok ok jason kidd

edit* assuming we are only counting the time they actually wore the number.

Last edited by Sauru on Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:43 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Really tough to choose between KG and Kidd. I'm going with KG, because Duncan's going to be my pick for #21...oh, and because among the number fives, KG certainly stands out. That too, obviously.

Easily KG. He'd make a first tier powerforward in all time list. Kidd? He's not touching Nash and you know it.

Jason Kidd for me.

Speaking your mind in your posts is great and should be encouraged, but none of that matters if you don't vote for your guy on the poll.

edit* assuming we are only counting the time they actually wore the number.

That's correct. Just the time they wore the actual number.

Garnett over Kidd.

Your Josh Smith line is Kidd's stats again.

Or Smith suddenly doubled his career assist totals.

Thanks for the heads up. Getting sloppier by the thread.

I should be able to vote for Horry KG for me.

I'm a bit late to save him but I'll have to go with Kidd on this one since KG's Celtics tenure, for me, in totality is subpar compared to Kidd's prime years... He's a mini-Lebron on those Nets days...