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NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKERS BASKETBALL

Postby benji on Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:53 am

The New York Knicks were en route to their fifth straight loss last week against Brooklyn when a frustrated Tim Hardaway Jr. screamed angrily, "Get the rebound!"

Certain his second-year teammate was speaking to him, Carmelo Anthony approached Hardaway on the way down the court and used an expletive to ask Hardaway who in the world he thought he was talking to.

Anthony, according to sources, used another expletive in telling Hardaway he was going to beat him up when they got into the locker room after the game.


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One thing Anthony and his teammates do agree on is their disdain for the triangle offense, sources said. For weeks, if not longer, the players have been ready to ditch the triangle and move on to another system. They feel like other teams know what they are going to run and where they are going to go on the court, which makes it easier to stop them.

When team president Phil Jackson gave his state of the team address Monday, he said the Knicks players have shown defiance to the changes he and Fisher have made in the name of "changing the culture."

"There's some resistance to discipline and order and culture change and things like that," Jackson said.

The players' dislike for the triangle is a part of that. But there is more.

Last season, under Woodson, the Knicks switched on defense. This season, under Fisher, they don't switch, which has some players grumbling.

Also, the day after losses, Woodson would typically hold voluntarily workouts that were light and nondemanding. Fisher, however, holds full-fledged practices and works the players hard.

"Guys are definitely frustrated," one source said. "But some of it's just basketball stuff that the players don't like doing. When somebody's demanding that you make a hard cut, you don't like it because you have to work harder. When someone says it's not OK to throw a bulls--- pass, guys don't like it."

But the players don't feel like Fisher is being too hard on them, sources said. In fact, some feel his sideline demeanor is too stoic and that they would like to see more emotion out of him.

"They almost want to see Fisher get upset during a game," one source said. "They want to know that their coach will go to battle with them, that he'll fight for them. They're not seeing any emotion out of him."
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKERS BASKETBALL

Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:19 am

Never a dull moment with the Knicks, though plenty of gloomy ones if you're a fan.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKERS BASKETBALL

Postby Jeffx on Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:34 am

I say dump ALL of these losers. Look at the Bucks - those cats are young, hungry and have heart. Why can't we get cats like that? Why can't we get high basketball IQ players like the Spurs? Where are the foreign players? Why do the Knicks always go for divas? This franchise has exactly one playoff series win since Dolan took over...ONE in what, fourteen years???????

Steve Kerr knew what he was doing, but hell, it wasn't THAT hard of a decision to choose between GS and NY.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKERS BASKETBALL

Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:55 am

What do you make of Fisher, Jeffx?
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKERS BASKETBALL

Postby Jeffx on Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:06 pm

He seems to be the type of coach who treats players like men. Unfortunatey, he's saddled with a bad roster - a bunch of low-IQ divas who haven't won anything.

I'll have a better read on Fisher once Phil upgrades the team.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKERS BASKETBALL

Postby benji on Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:09 pm

I like the silent admission by Melo that he was rightly getting yelled at.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKERS BASKETBALL

Postby benji on Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:12 pm

Jeffx wrote:Where are the foreign players?

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What? You don't like 'em?
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKERS BASKETBALL

Postby air gordon on Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:45 pm

what's up with Carmelo saying he was very close to choosing the bulls instead?
Jump.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKERS BASKETBALL

Postby Andrew on Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:52 pm

Maybe feeling some regret with their current record.
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Re: NEW YORK KNICKERBOCKERS BASKETBALL

Postby benji on Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:45 pm

air gordon wrote:what's up with Carmelo saying he was very close to choosing the bulls instead?

He was going to join the Bulls and then Phil Jackson did his voodoo magic and he took the money, then slowly realized after that Dolan still owns the team and Jackson didn't really give a shit.
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