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Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:34 pm

Story on Yahoo! NBA:

Dwight Howard wants out of Orlando, putting one of the NBA’s most dominant big men on the block at the start of training camp.

Magic general manager Otis Smith confirmed Saturday that Howard has formally requested a trade. A team spokesman said earlier in the day that the team had granted New Jersey, Dallas and the Los Angeles Lakers permission to talk to Howard’s agent, Dan Fegan, to discuss possible trades.

The All-Star is eligible to opt out of his current contract in July 2012.


And so while the Chris Paul soap opera continues with the trade being re-submitted to the league, the Dwight Howard sweepstakes officially begin.

Teaming up with Deron Williams in New Jersey, I think he could help them to a lower seed in the East. If they can swing a couple of other deals, they might be a solid middle of the pack (or slightly better) team with a shot at the fifth or sixth seed, similar to the Atlanta Hawks in recent years. Immediate success would be modest but they could be a team with potential.

Should he end up being dealt to the Lakers - say along with Turkoglu for Bynum and Walton as recently suggested - then he's obviously got a much better shot at being on a championship contender right away, with or without the Paul trade going through. If the Paul trade does go through then the Lakers are still a little weak in the frontcourt without Gasol and Odom but Howard would be an upgrade on Bynum, so they'd be right there in the discussion.

If he were to go to the Mavericks and they could field a starting five that includes Dirk, Howard, Kidd and Carter with Terry still coming off the bench, then I think they're favourites to repeat. I don't see anyone in the West being able to take them down and they should still be able to hang with a revamped Heat team. I'm guessing they'd be more interested in offers from the Lakers and Nets, though the Mavs could put together a few decent packages.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Nick on Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:17 pm

I wonder what the appeal of the Nets is to him?
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:22 pm

Friendship with Deron Williams, probably.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby benji on Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:31 pm

Also, playing in the biggest market in the country. With a billionaire owner willing to spend to win. (Note that both of the other two teams he's interested in have at least one of these.)
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Nick on Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:38 pm

Yeh, i was thinking the same thing about that russian owner dude. But still, it just seems strange that Howard would force his way out of a team so he can better position himself to win a championship, and aim for Nets. Nets wont be a contender with him, unless something drastic happens. As good as Deron is, the team overall is pretty weak. Just like Orlando.

I guess the long-term appeal of "Brooklyn Nets" is the appealing part.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby benji on Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:56 pm

Dwight instantly puts any team on path to be a contender. Deron is far better than anything on the Magic. Orlando cannot and will not win a title with the current team and they can't "start over" until 2014 after the current team is gutted. (They have very few assets to trade for talent as well.) New Jersey on the other hand is in much better position to bring pieces in even after absorbing Dwight and extending Deron. They have only one player under contract past next season, all their players will be able to live it up in the biggest market battling against the Knicks "big two" for the foreseeable future, etc.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:58 pm

The Magic have probably gone as far as they can in trying to build around him and he seems to have lost faith in them being able to work any miracles moving forward. Perhaps he feels a team like the Nets under Prokhorov will stand a better shot of putting together a contending roster in the not too distant future, with players like Williams and himself to build around. It's also a scenario that allows him to be higher up in the pecking order on the court.

The Mavericks and Lakers offer favourable situations if he's willing to be the second or third banana, so it seems he's hedging his bets with scenarios for immediate success but less personal accolades and a rebuilding situation he has some confidence in that'll allow him to remain more of a standout player.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Lamrock on Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:20 pm

The Lakers just traded Odom for Dallas's TPE. Methinks they are working on a Bynum + TPE + filler + picks for Dwight + Turkoglu's albatross deal now.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby benji on Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:38 pm

The TPE isn't big enough to fit Turkoglu's contract.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Lamrock on Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:44 pm

Yeah, that's why I put filler (Luke Walton and maybe someone else if it still doesn't match) from LA going to the Magic. Lakers would then probably use their Amnesty clause on Turkoglu, if such a deal is allowed.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby benji on Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:50 pm

Nope, players traded cannot be amnestied. The filler thing doesn't work either, a contract has to fit entirely within the TPE.

A Bynum+Walton package for Dwight+Turkoglu does work without the TPE though. Also, Nelson's contract fits within the TPE.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Lamrock on Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:55 pm

Bynum + Walton is enough? Well shit, nevermind.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby benji on Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:58 pm

Oops, meant Bynum+Walton+Blake.

Apparently this is the new rumor:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=6utz2z9
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby rise on Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:00 pm

WOW the Rockets would get their asses raped in that trade. :shock: New Jersey would get a STEAL.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby The X on Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:27 pm

Barring him going to NJN, I wonder if the following trade could happen:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7ffk76a

Obviously add New York's 1st round draft pick held by Rockets going to Orlando & maybe Lakers sourcing one more first round draft pick for Magic. Walton retires after trade. Lakers take on contracts of Hedo & Redick.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Andrew on Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:31 am

z02 wrote:WOW the Rockets would get their asses raped in that trade. :shock: New Jersey would get a STEAL.


Seems to be the story of the offseason for the Rockets so far in trade rumours.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby benji on Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:48 am

There is talk however that the Rockets are attempting to pull the trigger on these deals so they can pair Nene with either Pau/Lopez. They wanted the Paul trade to create the room to sign Nene, this would do the same.

Morey's plan is "logical" enough in that you can fairly easily build a perimeter attack, and so having Pau/Lopez plus Nene gives you the twin-towers down low that has won titles recently.

I actually love Martin as a player, but knowing what I know about stats and Morey the guy is an easily replaceable asset. Not speaking to the Nene/* plan but you can part with Martin and bring in two guys who produce about the same more easily than any other trade off you get.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Lamrock on Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:34 am

Hard not to love Kevin Martin statistically, but he's injury prone, plays bad defense and his effectiveness is speculated by some to be marginalized by this year's new rules. It'll be easier to build a back court than a frontcourt, and if they can get something for some of their 2009 lottery busts, that plan could just work.

So was Nene to New Jersey just a rumor?
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby shadowgrin on Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:53 am

Denver is still willing to match the offers for Nene from other teams (if reports were true).
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Radioman on Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:16 am

Magic GM is rolling a 29 sided dice.

Magic general manager Otis Smith said he will consider all offers.

“We wouldn’t be who we are if we don’t take a look around all 29 teams and try to make the best deal for the Orlando Magic,” Smith said.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1gFNVCCVh
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Main Bounce on Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:16 am

Even Dwight gets traded he wont end up in New Jersey... Brook Lopez 2 First round Picks? thats is it?....
Otis wont rush this one
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby air gordon on Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:18 am

Lamrock wrote:So was Nene to New Jersey just a rumor?

no shit sherlock..er lamrock

unless Memphis is there to help you out... hasn't it always been easier to build a backcourt then frontcourt??

and Andrew- isn't Howard already the #1 guy in the pecking order in Orlando? all those moves that Otis Smith made (i.e- going over the lux tax to resign JJ Reddick last year & trading for hedo/arenas and this year resigning Richardson to 4yrs) weren't they meant to compliment Howard's game??

anywhere else Howard goes he probably won't be that #1 guy anymore IMO
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Main Bounce on Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:44 am

air gordon wrote:
Lamrock wrote:So was Nene to New Jersey just a rumor?

no shit sherlock..er lamrock

unless Memphis is there to help you out... hasn't it always been easier to build a backcourt then frontcourt??

and Andrew- isn't Howard already the #1 guy in the pecking order in Orlando? all those moves that Otis Smith made (i.e- going over the lux tax to resign JJ Reddick last year & trading for hedo/arenas and this year resigning Richardson to 4yrs) weren't they meant to compliment Howard's game??

anywhere else Howard goes he probably won't be that #1 guy anymore IMO


Yeah definitely, they havent given up on Howard yet. It says request a trade not demand. Like Kobe requested for a trade back in 2007.
they are still in high hopes to convince Dwight... If only a Chris Paul or a Deron Williams is affordable it would be a GREAT news for the Magic

IF this is just possible :applaud: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=79p8vfh
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby shadowgrin on Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:00 am

Former NBA player Troy Hudson now a CEO (Hudson Enterprise), contributor (Huff Post), and Nostradamus reincarnated.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/troy-huds ... 40366.html
...over the past few weeks I have been doing research on Dwight Howard and the possibility of him becoming a Los Angeles Laker. In my studies I've come across a few interesting trends that may prove that Superman II will indeed be sporting a Lakers jersey and hoisting up the world championship hardware at seasons end.

If his research is as accurate as his shooting percentage, Laker fans need to worry.
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Re: Dwight Howard formally requests trade

Postby Main Bounce on Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:32 am

lol we'll see... I thought he works as a commentator on RAW... I was WRONG
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