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Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:48 pm
Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:55 pm
Good teammates + more LeChoke at endgames= NO RINGS
Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:22 am
Aldridge has been doing a lot of this, for Carl Landry first, and now he's also trying to get Crawford. Don't want Crawful on my Blazers, but Miami might have won it all with him instead of say, Mike Miller.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:35 am
Stress Fracture wrote:Good teammates + more LeChoke at endgames= NO RINGS
More Finals than Yao and McGrady combined.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:20 am
It doesn't have to be the Heat but I can't fucking wait for Nash to get out of that shitzy team and play for the contender ffs. He perhaps has 2 or 3 good years left in him tops.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:19 am
More importantly, he's hinting at getting help for his receding hairline!
That was the last time my hairline was right and tight! LOL. Coming back soon though #childhoodmemory
If the season isn't cancelled, Crawford might be a possibility in the immediate future but I'd say they'd have to wait until the 2013 season for Nash, when he'll be a free agent. He doesn't seem likely to force his way out of Phoenix and the Heat don't really have any pieces they'd likely be willing to give up and the Suns would be interested in taking for Nash, ie big expiring contracts and high draft picks.
NovU wrote:It doesn't have to be the Heat but I can't fucking wait for Nash to get out of that shitzy team and play for the contender ffs. He perhaps has 2 or 3 good years left in him tops.
Perhaps, but he's still playing at a really high level, is in pretty good health and doesn't rely greatly on athleticism. I could see him playing into his early 40s, possibly going 19 or 20 years as John Stockton did.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:49 pm
I would like to see what Steve Nash can do on a contending team and he really deserves a ring, but I don't see him playing for the heat anytime soon.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:58 pm
Andrew wrote:NovU wrote:It doesn't have to be the Heat but I can't fucking wait for Nash to get out of that shitzy team and play for the contender ffs. He perhaps has 2 or 3 good years left in him tops.
Perhaps, but he's still playing at a really high level, is in pretty good health and doesn't rely greatly on athleticism. I could see him playing into his early 40s, possibly going 19 or 20 years as John Stockton did.
That's what I am saying actually. I think he can keep playing at that level for 2 or 3 more years. And it's pretty amazing considering his age. But despite him not relying on athleticism, he doesn't have the size which Kidd always had. One of Nash's strength has been foot speed/work which allows a quick first step and loss of that will affect his whole game.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:48 pm
I know, I'm suggesting he could feasibly go another four or five, health (and interest in doing so) permitting.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:59 pm
It's hard seeing Nash going to a contender unless he comes off the bench. Most of the contending teams have pretty good point guards at this stage. Miami would actually be the option if he wanted to start and keep the minutes he's been getting.
EDIT: I definitely don't want him to go to Miami though
Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:24 pm
If Otis Smith could work some miracles with the bad contracts in Orlando, pair Nash up with Dwight Howard and a couple of other pieces, the Magic would be quite formidable and he'd be a clear upgrade on Nelson. Much easier said than done, though.
Depending on whether or not they trust Rondo to be as effective once the Big Three are gone, Boston could also take a chance and trade for Nash for one or two last runs at a title. He'd be a downgrade defensively and in terms of longevity, but he'd be an upgrade in terms of shooting and while Rondo did rack up the assists last year, I'd still deem Nash the superior playmaker.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:09 pm
I think Jamal and Nash will go after the money at least a little. So I don't think Miami will be their option anyways. But I'd say teaming up with Howard should be the best option for Nash as Andrew suggested. The guy will make Hedo and other craps much better. And Howard? He gets his John Stockton. I hope something happens soon cuz Nash ain't getting younger.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:55 pm
Agreed, Nash to Orlando would be great. They can keep Arenas as 6th man or amnesty him.
Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:27 am
The question is, how do they get him? Phoenix would no doubt prefer to take on lottery picks and expiring contracts, neither of which the Magic have to offer.
Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:32 am
Depending on terms of amnesty they could trade for Arenas and then cut him.
Or get Turkoglu back.
Maybe the recruitment is on the basis of the fact we won't have a season this year, so Nash will be FA.
Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:04 am
badreligionau wrote:It's hard seeing Nash going to a contender unless he comes off the bench. Most of the contending teams have pretty good point guards at this stage. Miami would actually be the option if he wanted to start and keep the minutes he's been getting.
I agree. I think he could be a bench stabilizer, helping them get easy baskets. I also think it would be better with him on the bench because it would keep his defensive liabilities off the court for most of the game.
Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:09 am
We all know that jamal crawfords resigning with atlanta. He said it already.
and most likely steve nashs gonna wanna retire with the suns if they resign him
And lebron using twitter to recruit is dumb. he needs to train himself before recruiting others on his reign of failure
Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:28 am
Pdub wrote:badreligionau wrote:It's hard seeing Nash going to a contender unless he comes off the bench. Most of the contending teams have pretty good point guards at this stage. Miami would actually be the option if he wanted to start and keep the minutes he's been getting.
I agree. I think he could be a bench stabilizer, helping them get easy baskets. I also think it would be better with him on the bench because it would keep his defensive liabilities off the court for most of the game.
He could easily start for the Lakers, Magic or Heat; possibly Boston if they're willing to gamble Rondo's future without KG, Pierce and Allen for one or two more possible title runs.
Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:40 am
Andrew wrote:Pdub wrote:badreligionau wrote:It's hard seeing Nash going to a contender unless he comes off the bench. Most of the contending teams have pretty good point guards at this stage. Miami would actually be the option if he wanted to start and keep the minutes he's been getting.
I agree. I think he could be a bench stabilizer, helping them get easy baskets. I also think it would be better with him on the bench because it would keep his defensive liabilities off the court for most of the game.
He could easily start for the Lakers, Magic or Heat; possibly Boston if they're willing to gamble Rondo's future without KG, Pierce and Allen for one or two more possible title runs.
I wasn't really sure whether to classify the Magic as a contender, but you're right, he could easily start with them. The Lakers too, but I think they'll be going downhill and Kobe wouldn't give Nash the ball as much as he should get it. I'd see the same problem with Miami now as well, since both D-Wade and LeBron like to take the ball up the court. As for Boston, Nash would be an upgrade, but it all depends if they want a short-term fix or are looking beyond the big three. I'd probably stick with Rondo because he's still rather young and is a pretty good defender.
So yeah, I'd be hoping the Magic could land him out of all those teams as well.
Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:53 am
It's definitely a gamble but I do wonder whether Rondo is actually a player that the Celtics can build around. He's a strong defender and really come along as a playmaker but can he put up the same kind of assist numbers without the Big Three around? He doesn't seem to have the mentality of a first option nor the tools to be one with a jumper that is still a bit shaky and abysmal free throw shooting for a guard. It'd be a really tough call, but I think if a player like Nash were available I'd take a chance on a future with Rondo as The Man for at least one more decent title run.
Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:22 pm
Dmastawwe wrote:We all know that jamal crawfords resigning with atlanta. He said it already.
Wasn't Jamal unhappy because the team was willing to overpay JJ while they won't for him?
Dmastawwe wrote:and most likely steve nashs gonna wanna retire with the suns if they resign him
Re-signing him shouldn't happen but it will if the Suns are willing to overpay for his service I believe. And I don't think he'll end his career as a Sun. No fucking way not with a team that will be rebuilding for next decade or two.
Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:04 am
NovU wrote:Andrew wrote:NovU wrote: One of Nash's strength has been foot speed/work which allows a quick first step and loss of that will affect his whole game.
Wrong. Just flat out wrong. Nash might be one of the best cerebral players in the game and the reason he's still so stellar is he has adjusted as he's aged and lost athleticism. His cognition of what he's doing currently, what his body is capable of doing, and what he needs to do/change to help his team is the best Ive seen in this era and is why everyone keeps saying "oh he's done" and then he still puts up his stellar numbers. The guy's never been a pure "athlete" player (say like Iverson) and I'm with Andrew here, Nash will be around till he decides not to anymore.
As far as Nash chasing the money, you've never read a single interview with him have you? I'd believe he'd ring chase, but theres no way he'd leave phoenix over money at this point.
Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:57 am
Heat should go ahead and chase Crawford for sure, Miller wanted to be LeBron while on the court. Do some rebounding and passing, not looking to shoot and when he did, they were bricks. James Jones should have played in the Finals more then him.
Crawford would be great when the Heat used the line-up with just LeBron on the court of the Big Three, with James Jones and Crawford that line-up would have been much better then Chalmers, Juwan Howard and Dampier in the line-up, it was dreadful.
Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:50 am
Oznogrd wrote:Wrong. Just flat out wrong. Nash might be one of the best cerebral players in the game and the reason he's still so stellar is he has adjusted as he's aged and lost athleticism.
Please tell me how he adjusted his game with a loss of quick first step. He hasn't much yet. Do you really think he won't decline after age of 39? Wow...
Oznogrd wrote:His cognition of what he's doing currently, what his body is capable of doing, and what he needs to do/change to help his team is the best Ive seen in this era and is why everyone keeps saying "oh he's done" and then he still puts up his stellar numbers. The guy's never been a pure "athlete" player (say like Iverson) and I'm with Andrew here, Nash will be around till he decides not to anymore.
Nobody's saying he's done here. But I still would say he will decline no matter how good of adjustment he makes in couple years or so. Tell me the guards that didn't decline at age of 39-40. Come on.
Oznogrd wrote:As far as Nash chasing the money, you've never read a single interview with him have you?
WTF is this about you crazy shit.
Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:42 am
Last year Nash had his 3rd most assists per game in his career. With a fellow roster where Grant Hill and Vince Carter were the best scorers on the team. Sure his scoring went down a bit but that could be contributed to the fact defenses knew they barely had to cover anyone else.
You're basically saying he's going to regress to a point where he wouldnt start for 90% of teams in the league. Bullshit. Even on a contender unless you're the chicago bulls, you'd consider nash over your starter. Can you imagine Nash setting up Durant? Having KG/Ray Allen/paul pierce to outlet to? Sure he's old, but he's still great and acting like he's gonna fall apart (which most experts do every year), well ill believe it when i see it.
The crazy shit? what crazy shit? Nash has said repeatedly he wants to stay in phoenix pretty much no matter what. If he wanted to leave, he would have demanded out already. not EVERY player will change teams for an extra 5 million or so.
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