Clueminati017 wrote:Clinton is something people cheered for before the scandal which was messed up that the Republican party forced the Democrats to impeach him.
What?
1. Nobody cheered for Clinton, he didn't have a cult of personality. Ever. The Left despised, as they still do, the DLC. And the Right despised being removed from power. He was solidly supported when he did what most people wanted which was his entire M.O. The Democrat Party was different then. The endless campaign and triangulation (along with the focus on absurd things like school uniforms and V-Chips) were specifically designed to keep approval high despite failure on the ideological front. (Where success and failure would've depressed approval, see: Bush, George W.) Clinton's learning of his lesson from the Republican Revolution, backing off, being conservative and working with the Republican Congress, when combined with the bubble economy is why his approval was high. His approval ratings were quite poor before Morris returned to overhaul his political standing and save him from Hillary and the ideologues. The Clinton governance and personality has nothing in common with the Obama ("I won") one outside of the love for lavishness. (Of which all of Washington loves.)
2. The Republicans did not force the Democrats to do anything. Clinton was impeached pretty much along party lines. The Democrats were stronger in the Senate, and along with "bipartisan" Republicans prevented conviction. Which was the right course of action. Clinton needed to be impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice, but he shouldn't have been removed from office for it. (Just like Bush.) I have a high standard of conviction, I'm convinced every President should be impeached at least once but almost none convicted.
Barack is a down to earth character.
Except, he's not (and even if he is, him sitting sideline at a NBA game isn't evidence of it), as you explain here:
He's trying to show people
People in Washington are elitists. Clinton was not because he had no Washington background, and Arkansas is a backwater. Bush hated that culture and that's why he went to Texas, but he never escaped his ancestors or it. Obama has spent his entire adult life pushing his way into elite culture and at the Presidency. Clinton and Truman are the only Presidents who can make a legitimate claim to being "down to Earth characters" since The War. I'd accept if you said Eisenhower, but he existed in a completely different circle.
The "common man" thing is an act. Obama enjoys being there because he enjoys basketball, just like Bush and baseball. When Obama or Bush have to work in a mail room and put up with all the mail regarding Pepe Silvia, and has to talk to Carol in HR, they'll be "common men." Not when they sit courtside or in the owners box, something the rest of us will never do.
him showing up at a NBA game drinking a beer is something that people wanted to see.
Yeah, the people in the absurd cult of personality.
I know about Herb Kohl attending the Bucks game. My uncle in Milwaukee told me about that time after time.
That wasn't the point. The point was that Obama is not special, he is not great because he attended a Wizards game along with their six remaining fans. The point was that he is the same as all the other politicans and celebrities. They use their power and prestiege to attend sporting events in order to further their power and prestiege. Obama being praised for this (not here, I do visit other forums) or it being considered interesting is sickening. The hatred for Bush/Clinton and the ignoring of them attending sporting events, that was a better America. (We should only care about politicans at sporting events when they're idiots like John Kerry and we're lulzing at them.
Bush throwing pitches perfectly in flak jackets = boring,
Kerry failing epicly = funny.) (The original Kerry page seems to be gone, that's the best google result I could find, the original website was far better. Another example of his strange desire to play football on the tarmac:
http://people.wm.edu/~bmjord/kerryfootball.htm See also: his going hunting randomly, visiting Wendy's, etc.)
Anyway. We have to question the intelligence of anyone who openly chooses to attend a Wizards game, especially against the Bulls.
Hoyasaxa wrote:And the American people continue to love this idea of "Obama's one of us". See [[Jimmy Carter failed presidency]]

Hey, there was that killer rabbit.
I like the cut of your jib though.