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Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:50 am
Tracy McGrady has so frequently been out of the lineup that the Rockets are beginning to be fed up with him and Yao Ming has quietly voiced his displeasure.
"They don't speak," an extremely plugged-in person tells David Aldridge. "And Yao wants him out."
Next summer McGrady will have an expiring, $22.4 million contract that many teams will likely be interested in taking on.
Yao and McGrady still like each other personally, but it is an on-the-court manner.
One veteran scout who worked a Rockets game recently was shocked by the deterioration in the still-29-year-old McGrady's game.
"I thought to myself, 'My God, he's old,'" the scout said. "It was amazing."
Source (Click Here)I seen it coming... I seen this coming. Yao is the franchise of the Houston Rockets for here on out.
Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:36 am
Well McGrady has always been injure prone especially with his back. Back spasms really have hurt his career for a long time now and despite everybody realized .. no one really took care .. like sitting him out for a whole season trying to use alternative methods or stuff.
This is what happens when your body just keeps declining .. but maybe he will come back (just like Shaq does these days) .. I hope it for him.
Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:14 am
Sadly, I think the future cap relief his contract will provide will be the most attractive selling point to most teams. If he could stay healthy then I think he'd unquestionably still be vying for a spot in the top three at his position and talentwise he's probably still there but at this point you don't know how many games you're going to get out of him. That being said, I'm sure there are teams who would be interested and would take a chance on him...worst case scenario is that he continues to be injury plagued for another year and a half and comes off the books in time to make a run at the 2010 free agent class.
Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:24 am
There used to be a time when McGrady and Carter's name was mentioned in the breath as Bryant.
I enjoyed watching him back in Orlando, his shooting form on the three always seemed so kickass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87XDAM-lK-Q
Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:25 am
The first line of that story kind of implies that Yao is also fed up with him because he's in and out of the lineup. With his injuries last year, wouldn't that come across as somewhat hypocritical?
Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:40 am
Good point, Yao hasn't played more than 57 games himself in the past three seasons. Perhaps it's more the Rockets who are fed up with McGrady's lack of durability and Yao has his own reasons, though the way it's written does seem to imply a bit of hypocrisy.
Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:10 am
Personally i think people are just trying to stir things up...there have been reports of Mcgrady being unhappy about Yao taking a lot of shots now and not being aggressive enough, and in another article Yao had said that he does not believe Mcgrady would make those comments towards him...the two articles are both on yahoo hk and are chinese, but here are the links
Reports Say McGrady is not happy with YaoYao says he does not believe rumored statements from his teammate McGrady
Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:32 am
Trouble in paradise? Did anyone not see this coming (i.e. at least one of Houston's Big Three getting injured).
I think Houston will keep McGrady, he could seriously do some damage in the playoffs now that they also have Artest. I suppose if they lose first-round again this season, they might dangle him to a few teams next season as an expiring conteact.
Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:15 pm
He's still 29? what the fuck? I think they're just stirring the pot though.
Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:17 pm
jonthefon wrote:Trouble in paradise? Did anyone not see this coming (i.e. at least one of Houston's Big Three getting injured).
I think Houston will keep McGrady, he could seriously do some damage in the playoffs now that they also have Artest. I suppose if they lose first-round again this season, they might dangle him to a few teams next season as an expiring conteact.
You got to look at the other side. Tracy McGrady has a track record on not getting out of the first round of the playoffs. So, how can this be a guaranteed ordeal with the help he has now? No matter how much help Tracy has. He can never make it out the first round, and let alone there's going to be one of those weeks he'll end up having an injury just to nurse the old/previous injury. Although, this could be a media output although it was posted on NBA.com.
Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:37 pm
I don't think Yao has made it past the first round either has he? As much as I think he's a very skilled player, I don't believe Yao is the franchise player everyone makes him out to be. Where as when T-Mac is injury free, I believe he's one of the best players in his position. He's only a year older than Yao, I think he can still come good again.
Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:52 pm
True. With Steve Francis when he was the star player of Houston. They still didn't make it past the first round where they were labeled Da Franchise-Ming Dynasty. Now, when I said if T-Mac leaves. They definitely have to build the roster around Yao Ming just like they done with Hakeem Olajuwon, and just like they done with Ralph Sampson as well to keep it in the big man category (unless we want to throw Moses Malone in this). The GM and Rick Alderman may have to do that. So, far if everything is well kept they do have Scola, Artest, Battier, Brooks, and other role players.
Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:00 pm
If Houston wants to trade T-Mac which other team would be willing to take him? I can´t see a other team giveing up a similar talented player to get him. I guess the best option is to hope that t-mac (and yao) gets to 100% come playoff time.
Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:56 pm
Let's just wait and see if T-MAC shows sign of improvement after he finish his two week off-season program rehab. Personally, I believe he can comeback and play at the level he's capable of again, and I'm not trying to be extra positive because I'm a T-MAC fan either. True, there is no guaranteed ordeal that the Rockets will get past the first round with the help T-MAC has now, but you cant deny the fact that the Rockets are a much capable team with the roster they have right now if their players are healthy. OK, that's not the case right now since Artest and T-MAC are both out a few weeks, but give it some time and things will eventually start to get better. That being said, T-MAC is still only 29 and his body is surely capable of recovering from whatever injury he has.
What I'm not happy about though is Yao's quiet comment. If the article is telling the truth, then aren't Yao being a little selfish? Correct me if I'm wrong but this is the first season since his third year in the league that he's healthy. He hasn't play more than 60 games in each of his last three season himself and just because he's healthy this year doesn't mean that he can go negative on T-MAC.
I say we wait and see how T-MAC perform after his "off-season program rehab" and then we can judge whether or not he can bounce back to the level he's capable of again. Hopefully he'll be able to do so and considering that he's only 29, he should be able to do so.
At the end of the day, if the Rockets and T-MAC can stay healthy and play at the level they're truly capable of, they'll prove all the naysayers wrong.
Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:19 pm
erik_twism wrote:If Houston wants to trade T-Mac which other team would be willing to take him? I can´t see a other team giveing up a similar talented player to get him. I guess the best option is to hope that t-mac (and yao) gets to 100% come playoff time.
Anyone trying to clear cap space for 2010, since his contract will expire after next season. If he's healthy, he's capable of at least being top five at his position and if doesn't work out they'd still have that cap relief come 2010.
Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:24 pm
You just said it, he´s capable of being a top 5 player on sg. There´s no way that Houston can get back a player with his abilities, I agree that you´ll find several teams with an interest in t-mac, but i don´t see Houston getting a player that increases the chanches to make it out of the first round.
Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:16 am
T-Mac no doubtly is passed the prime with injuries and stuff. I also want to see him gone from the Rockets for someone like Marion, Marbury or Kaman for a change. Just a wish...
badreligionau wrote:I don't believe Yao is the franchise player everyone makes him out to be. Where as when T-Mac is injury free, I believe he's one of the best players in his position. He's only a year older than Yao, I think he can still come good again.
That's what I'm worried about. After years of watching Yao as a fan, I feel the same. As for T-Mac, he's over the heel and I don't think he can be the same. While he has some value, I think it's best to trade him.
Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:32 am
t mac is a great player but his injuries have always kept him down in times when hes needed the most. I hope he can come back this season and atleast help break houstons 1st round curse with yao and artest (granted no injuries

). All we can do is wait i guess and see how he performs when he comes back.
PS: this season ive seen him airball more then 5 - 6 times

:D
Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:19 am
erik_twism wrote:You just said it, he´s capable of being a top 5 player on sg. There´s no way that Houston can get back a player with his abilities, I agree that you´ll find several teams with an interest in t-mac, but i don´t see Houston getting a player that increases the chanches to make it out of the first round.
Agreed, in fact they'd probably have to take on a bad contract or two just to make the trade work in the first place.
Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:42 am
That's why I think they should keep on T-Mac. They won't get the player they're looking for by trading him, only a bunch of other people to match up to his salary. I think the rockets have enough star potential in their lineup, plus a few proven stars.
If I started a Rockets dynasty, I'd probably trade Yao if anything
Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:35 am
It wouldn't be a bad idea. Despite his talents his trade value has to be pretty low at the moment given his injury and his numbers, which are down in several categories including a career worst performance from the field. If they are going to move him then they should probably wait until this offseason, when he's returned from injury and hopefully improved his production over the latter half of the season and the end of his contract is in sight, just in time for the free agent sweepstakes of 2010.
Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:01 pm
I would trade Yao instead. On 2K9, I traded Yao for Howard. Both Yao and T-Mac are injury prone, and if they are injured, that fucks up their chances of getting past the first round. And I'll be pissed off if that happens for the third year in a row. Good thing that the Jazz at the moment are out of the playoffs contention.
Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:06 pm
Listen to 2K9, it knows all.
Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:07 pm
natorindacrib wrote:Good thing that the Jazz at the moment are out of the playoffs contention.
No they're not, they're in eighth place in the West and actually have a couple more wins than seventh seeded Phoenix. They're not in contention for a top four seed but they're right they're in contention for a lower seed.
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