X's Hypothetical Draft Do-overs *1984 Posted*

[The X]

I know there have been a few articles on it, but I thought I'd have my own thread that I would update with who I think should have gone in the lottery each year....compared to a lot of other people's opinions, I'm not going to list the top 13 or 14 players from each draft class, I'm going to try & put myself in the mind of what each respective team needed & were after in that draft, & work from there....I'll start with the current draft lottery & work backwards....obviously the further back I go, the easier it should be in hindsight....I'll start with the most recent drafts, the 2007 NBA Drafts respectively....

2007 NBA DRAFT RE-DONE (per The X)

1. Portland: C- Greg Oden (picked #1)

You don't pass on a franchise centre, you just don't. If Durant becomes a very, very special player & Oden fails to get close to his potential, then maybe the #1 & #2 picks should've been flipped, but can't fault the Blazers here.

2. Seattle: SF- Kevin Durant (picked #2)

The Sonics take whoever Portland doesn't in Durant & build their franchise around him.

3. Atlanta: PF- Al Horford (picked #3)

I think just as they did IRL, the Hawks made the right decision in drafting Horford. He has the chance to be one of the NBA's premier PF's.

4. Memphis: PG- Mike Conley Jr (picked #4)

Whilst Horford would've been a great pick for Grizzlies, they needed a PG & Conley was best in the draft, so can't fault them here.

5. Seattle: PF- Yi Jianlian (picked #6)

This is where it gets interesting. Sonics already have Durant, why not take another flyer & potentially have 2 star forwards on their team?!? If not Yi, then maybe Brandan Wright. Not sure about Asian population in Seattle, but we'll forget that for now.

6. Milwaukee: PF- Brandan Wright (picked #8)

The Bucks were in a position to take best available talent & at this spot, Brandan Wright probably is. Whilst the pick might not pay dividends straight away, in a couple of years it probably would have.

7. Minnesota: C- Spencer Hawes (picked #10)

I thought for sure McHale would jump on Hawes, as he's a talented big man with good footwork and fundamentals. Hawes could turn out to be a top 5 prospect out of this draft, so should be interesting.

8. Golden State: PF- Joakim Noah (picked #9)

Warriors needed a bit more size, a bit more rebounding & defense as well. It also helps that Noah runs the floor, plays 100% all the time & has the attitude to click with this team.

9. Chicago: SG/SF- Corey Brewer (picked #7)

The Bulls wanted more size at the guard position & Brewer would've provide that. He could play at SG or SF, & like Thabo, defend multiple positions. Although he can help on offensive end a bit as well.

10. Sacramento: SF- Julian Wright (picked #12)

Artest could be gone & Wright would've made a dynamite pick at this juncture. Wright is top 5 talent, should be interesting to see where he stacks up.

11. Atlanta: PG- Acie Law (picked #11)

I really wanted to put someone else here, but due to previous drafts, the Hawks needed a PG in the worst possible way. He's the best PG on the board & as much as we'd all like to see Thaddeus Young here, the Hawks don't need another SF. I don't like Crittenton enough to have him here either.

12. Philadelphia: SG- Daequan Cook (picked #21)

The 76ers are searching for that piece to put next to Iguodala & Cook could be that piece. The 76ers actually had him momentarily in the draft at #21 but dealt him away. Maybe it means they think that Louis Williams is a better prospect. Who knows which way Cook will go.

13. New Orleans: SG- Marco Belinelli (picked #18)

The Hornets were in need of a SG badly as they already had Peja as their starting SF. Nick Young should be a good pro SG, but Belinelli will probably be a better one.

14. LA Clippers: SF- Jeff Green (picked #5)

This was a toss up between Jeff Green & Thaddeus Young, but I thought that the Clippers needed more immediate help to get them back into the post season, so Green gets the nod.

Five toughest omissions: Thaddeus Young (picked #13), Jared Dudley (picked #22), Tiago Splitter (picked #28), Gabe Pruitt (picked #32) & Josh McRoberts (picked #37).


Please feel free to comment & give your opinions on each draft do-over. I do however ask that you keep your opinions on prior year drafts until after I have posted mine (unless of course you wish to start your own new thread, & then by all means do it)....I'll be doing 2006 re-draft soon, maybe today, so please comment on the 2007 whilst I re-do 2006....

[Andrew]

The way the Yi situation is shaping up, I think that's a pick the Bucks would probably like to do over. The attitude from Yi and his camp is appalling and disgracefully unprofessional in my opinion, much like Steve Francis forcing a trade from the Grizzlies back in 1999. If you declare for the Draft, you're accepting that you may be taken by any team in the league. If you want to try and dictate where you begin your NBA career, forego the Draft and sign as a rookie free agent.

I don't entirely disagree with the Bulls picking Brewer instead but adding size in the frontcourt is more of a concern in my opinion. Even though the size of their backcourt is a concern, Noah's likely to see more time (especially if PJ Brown retires or signs elsewhere) whereas Gordon, Deng, Nocioni and Thabo are going to account for a majority of the minutes at small forward and shooting guard.

[The X]

The way the Yi situation is shaping up, I think that's a pick the Bucks would probably like to do over. The attitude from Yi and his camp is appalling and disgracefully unprofessional in my opinion, much like Steve Francis forcing a trade from the Grizzlies back in 1999. If you declare for the Draft, you're accepting that you may be taken by any team in the league. If you want to try and dictate where you begin your NBA career, forego the Draft and sign as a rookie free agent.

I don't entirely disagree with the Bulls picking Brewer instead but adding size in the frontcourt is more of a concern in my opinion. Even though the size of their backcourt is a concern, Noah's likely to see more time (especially if PJ Brown retires or signs elsewhere) whereas Gordon, Deng, Nocioni and Thabo are going to account for a majority of the minutes at small forward and shooting guard.

yeah, I don't like Yi situation anymore than everyone else....

as for the Bulls, the reason I had Brewer going there is that I have Noah going at #8 (& Hawes at #7 & Wright at #6) meaning there were no more talented big guys left, meaning the Bulls were in a position to take best available talent....hypothetically, if Noah or any other big was there in my do-over, then I'd definitely have the Bulls drafting a big guy....

[The X]

2006 NBA DRAFT RE-DONE (per The X)

1. Toronto: PF- Andrea Bargnani (picked #1)

The Raptors already had Bosh, Bargnani is a great piece to put next to him to lead the team for the next decade. Aldridge is a little too much like Bosh, so that's why I'm sticking with the Italian.

2. Chicago: PF- LaMarcus Aldridge (picked #2)

The Bulls needed a low post option & Aldridge makes too much sense at this pick to pass on. This pick would've hurt the Knicks' fans more than them ending up with Tyrus Thomas.

3. Charlotte: SG- Brandon Roy (picked #6)

There was talk that the Bobcats would take Roy & they really should have. He was best available talent on the board, they needed a SG & he would've helped the team probably get that #8 playoff seed out in the East.

4. Portland: PF- Tyrus Thomas (picked #4)

The Blazers would have wanted Aldridge or Roy, but both are gone, so the Blazers take Tyrus Thomas. Potentially they could go with Foye, but an explosive frontcourt player with the potential that Thomas has would be too hard to pass on.

5. Atlanta: PG/SG- Randy Foye (picked #7)

This would've been the best way for Hawks' fan to forget about Chris Paul & Deron Williams. They needed a PG & Foye was best in class.

6. Minnesota: SF- Rudy Gay (picked #8)

The T'wolves take the best available player who can slot straight in & play off of Kevin Garnett. Because Foye & Roy are off the board, I am null & voiding the 6-7 trade between T'wolves & the Blazers.

7. Portland: SF/SG- Adam Morrison (picked #3)

Portland needs a starting SF, Adam Morrison is a local product, the fans would've loved this pick. Please disregard his terrible rookie season, he'll be better than that, trust me.

8. Memphis: PF- Paul Millsap (picked #47)

The Grizzlies needed help in the frontcourt & Millsap would've provided that straight away.

9. Golden State: SG/SF- Rodney Carney (picked #16)

With the style they play, Carney could've stepped in right away & excelled. The Warriors might also not have needed (or possibly found) Kelenna Azubuike & Matt Barnes.

10. Seattle: PF/C- Hilton Armstrong (picked #12)

The Sonics wanted a centre with potential but Sene was not the answer, they should've looked at a guy like Hilton Armstrong who is more established & still has some upside. If not him, maybe in another position of need.

11. Orlando: SG- Ronnie Brewer (picked #14)

After Brandon Roy, probably the #2 SG in the draft. He's got a bit of upside & some good athleticism & probably fitted the Magic more than Redick might.

12. New Orleans: PG- Rajon Rondo (picked #21)

The Hornets needed a backup PG & an insurance policy for Chris Paul. Rondo could not only back him up, but play alongside him in the backcourt at times & cause other teams with fits with their speed & athleticism. A good defensive PG who could grow with the team.

13. Philadelphia: PG- Marcus Williams (picked #22)

The 76ers needed a starting PG to play alongside Allen Iverson. Williams makes sense at this pick.

14. Utah: SG- J.J. Redick (picked #11)

This pick makes too much sense. Sloan has coached the real Jeff Hornacek, so why not bring in a college shooting star who could replicate Hornacek's achievements. Would've been a good fit for Jazz as well with a shooter playing off Boozer, Williams & Okur.

Five toughest omissions: Shelden Williams (picked #5), Thabo Sefolosha (picked #13), Kyle Lowry (#24), Sergio Rodriguez (picked #27) & Daniel Gibson (picked #42).


As with all these drafts, hopefully I'm not forgetting some undrafted guys....if I am, please let me know....I'll do 2005 do-over draft in the next couple of days....

[Andrew]

Is that assuming the Chicago/Portland trade involving Aldridge and Thomas still occurred? If not, those picks should be flipped.

I could definitely see Millsap going top ten if that Draft were held again, certainly somewhere in the lottery. It's a shame the Bulls had traded their second round pick to the Jazz last year, they could have picked him up at #46.

[The X]

Is that assuming the Chicago/Portland trade involving Aldridge and Thomas still occurred? If not, those picks should be flipped.

I could definitely see Millsap going top ten if that Draft were held again, certainly somewhere in the lottery. It's a shame the Bulls had traded their second round pick to the Jazz last year, they could have picked him up at #46.

Yep, you are right. I have flipped the picks. It's hard keeping up with the hypotheticals, isn't it?!? the trade doesn't affect the picks, just the teams they go to....thanks for the heads up, I'm going to have to be a little bit more clued on in future drafts....I might need your help though to keep on the right track

as for Millsap yep, he's a lottery pick in hindsight....I think his play (& players like Craig Smith & Brandon Roy & more) really opened up the 2007 Draft (& possibly future drafts) for more proven draft prospects that can make more immediate impacts, which is great to see....

[Ty-Land]

Interesting concept.

I must say I disagree about the Buck's wanting a do-over of the draft. Yi will more than likely end up signing, and even if he doesn't the Bucks need to make a stand. If Yi was off the board we would have picked Green, in fact I think we would have picked Green over Yi.

In no circumstance can I see the Bucks taking Wright in that situation. Thorton, J. Wright, and Brewer all would have gone first.

In the long term the Bucks pick of Yi will work out. Either we land a potential star who will bring an international audience, or we set a precedent be forcing him to play in the CBA or sit out for a year rather then folding to his demands.

[The X]

Interesting concept.

I must say I disagree about the Buck's wanting a do-over of the draft. Yi will more than likely end up signing, and even if he doesn't the Bucks need to make a stand. If Yi was off the board we would have picked Green, in fact I think we would have picked Green over Yi.

In no circumstance can I see the Bucks taking Wright in that situation. Thorton, J. Wright, and Brewer all would have gone first.

In the long term the Bucks pick of Yi will work out. Either we land a potential star who will bring an international audience, or we set a precedent be forcing him to play in the CBA or sit out for a year rather then folding to his demands.

The thing with the do-over is that I am trying to predict the outcome in 5, maybe 10 years time, which is near impossible....I just think Brandan Wright will end up the better player than the other three or four that you mentioned, not that it's the right pick this season....obviously, I think the drafts will get easier as I go down as we all already know how it's gone or how their entire careers went....

EDIT: For the record, I think the Bucks should've taken Brewer, if not Yi, because it's the right pick now

[Donatello]

RE: Chinese population in Seattle



I'm not sure on Chinese specifically, but I know there's a HUGE Asian population in Seattle.

[Abctest123]

The way the Yi situation is shaping up, I think that's a pick the Bucks would probably like to do over. The attitude from Yi and his camp is appalling and disgracefully unprofessional in my opinion, much like Steve Francis forcing a trade from the Grizzlies back in 1999. If you declare for the Draft, you're accepting that you may be taken by any team in the league. If you want to try and dictate where you begin your NBA career, forego the Draft and sign as a rookie free agent.

I may have not read up on comments Yi himself made, but as far as I know, it's his agent and Chinese Officials that want to get him out of Milwaukee, NOT Yi that wants out. In my opinion, Yi doesn't really care where he plays, he's happy with basically wherever. I find it somewhat sad when I read some threads on the RealGM General Board on this issue, and most of the people keep thinking it's Yi that wants out.

[Silas]

RE: Chinese population in Seattle



I'm not sure on Chinese specifically, but I know there's a HUGE Asian population in Seattle.

Yeah I'm not so sure it's Chinese. There's a much bigger Japanese presence, at least in sports. That's why everyone loves Ichiro so much. Then again, everyone in Seattle, regardless of ethnicity likes Ichiro. But none the less, almost ten percent of the Seattle population is Asian.

[mvpshaq32]

I may have not read up on comments Yi himself made, but as far as I know, it's his agent and Chinese Officials that want to get him out of Milwaukee, NOT Yi that wants out. In my opinion, Yi doesn't really care where he plays, he's happy with basically wherever. I find it somewhat sad when I read some threads on the RealGM General Board on this issue, and most of the people keep thinking it's Yi that wants out.

I don't know how many times that's been said and yet people still can't get it through their heads.

[The X]

I may have not read up on comments Yi himself made, but as far as I know, it's his agent and Chinese Officials that want to get him out of Milwaukee, NOT Yi that wants out. In my opinion, Yi doesn't really care where he plays, he's happy with basically wherever. I find it somewhat sad when I read some threads on the RealGM General Board on this issue, and most of the people keep thinking it's Yi that wants out.

I don't know how many times that's been said and yet people still can't get it through their heads.

Everyone knows it's not Yi who cares, but you do have to remember that as a 19 year old (or 22 or 24 year old more likely since the Chinese regularly doctor the ages), Yi is a man....he is entering a professional league in a country (USA) when anyone over 18 years of age is considered a man & can make their own decisions....I'm not sure if everyone really understands the situation & politics in Chinese sports (I can't say I do, I only know what I see & read)....

[Andrew]

I may have not read up on comments Yi himself made, but as far as I know, it's his agent and Chinese Officials that want to get him out of Milwaukee, NOT Yi that wants out. In my opinion, Yi doesn't really care where he plays, he's happy with basically wherever. I find it somewhat sad when I read some threads on the RealGM General Board on this issue, and most of the people keep thinking it's Yi that wants out.

I don't know how many times that's been said and yet people still can't get it through their heads.

Perhaps I am reading too much into Yi's silence on the matter but in any event, the handling of the situation - whether its his "handlers" or Chinese officials or whether or not he feels the same way - is extremely unprofessional. The nature of the Draft is that you may end up anywhere. If they weren't comfortable with those terms then his name shouldn't have been entered in the Draft. Simple as that.

[The X]

I may have not read up on comments Yi himself made, but as far as I know, it's his agent and Chinese Officials that want to get him out of Milwaukee, NOT Yi that wants out. In my opinion, Yi doesn't really care where he plays, he's happy with basically wherever. I find it somewhat sad when I read some threads on the RealGM General Board on this issue, and most of the people keep thinking it's Yi that wants out.

I don't know how many times that's been said and yet people still can't get it through their heads.

Perhaps I am reading too much into Yi's silence on the matter but in any event, the handling of the situation - whether its his "handlers" or Chinese officials or whether or not he feels the same way - is extremely unprofessional. The nature of the Draft is that you may end up anywhere. If they weren't comfortable with those terms then his name shouldn't have been entered in the Draft. Simple as that.

I think people are forgetting about the sanctity of the game....it's already as enough negative connotations with it, the game doesn't need this from a 19 year old kid....there are thousands upon thousands of kids that age who would do anything to be in the situation he is in....hopefully they remember that....

[The X]

2005 NBA DRAFT RE-DONE (per The X)

1. Milwaukee: C- Andrew Bogut (picked #1)

I found myself torn on this pick. The Bucks had a healthy, returning young PG in TJ Ford with the up-and-coming Maurice Williams backing him in. They did not need one of the best 2 players in the draft (Chris Paul & Deron Williams) so I'm going to stick to the selection of a talented big man, who hopefully continues to improve to validate this selection. I don't think Paul or Williams are generation changing PG's otherwise I would have them at number 1.

2. Atlanta: PG- Chris Paul (picked #4)

This pick would have turned the Hawks into more of a force out East. This pick made too much sense.

3. Utah: PG- Deron Williams (picked #3)

Williams was always a good fit with Jazz & you can see how the dividends are paying off IRL.

4. New Orleans: SF- Marvin Williams (picked #2)

While the Hornets needed a PG, Felton is too much of a stretch at 4, so the best available talent in Marvin Williams goes at this pick.

5. Charlotte: PG- Raymond Felton (picked #5)

What seemed like a stretch at the time was probably the best pick the Bobcats could've made in their spot.

6. Portland: SF- Danny Granger (picked #17)

This was about as high as Granger figured to go in the draft & the SF poor Blazers would've been wise in hindsight to look past the medical tests & take the proven college senior who was only going to get better.

7. Toronto: SF/PF- Charlie Villanueva (picked #7)

This was a toss up between Villanueva & Monta Ellis, but I'll stick with the Raptors' surprise original selection.

8. New York: PF/SF- David Lee (picked #30)

People might view this one as a bit of a shocker & expected him to be very late lottery at best, but I think the heart, hustle & team spirit that he has brought to the Knicks bumps him up a few spots. He has definitely played more like a lottery pick than a bubble 1st Rounder, that's for sure. We love you David, even if we hate the Knicks.

9. Golden State: SG- Monta Ellis (picked #40)

This is the 2nd straight pick where the same team has got their man, but with a lottery pick instead of lower down the draft. Ellis is just a nice fit for this team.

10. LA Lakers: C- Andrew Bynum (picked #10)

Can't fault the Lakers' original pick, they did well.

11. Orlando: PF- Sean May (picked #13)

The Magic need a PF who can come in & play so they pick Fran....hold on a sec, how about someone who will show up like Sean May.

12. LA Clippers: PF/SF- Andray Blatche (picked #49)

The Clippers wanted a project. I think Blatche is a much better project than Korolev. If not Blatche, then perhaps Gerald Green.

13. Charlotte: PF- Channing Frye (picked #8)

Sticking with the going big, Frye is best available big & would have completed Okafor well I think.

14. Minnesota: SF/SG- Gerald Green (picked #18)

I think the T'wolves should've gambled more than they did on this pick & taken an athletic high schooler like Green. By the time Garnett was ready to ship out, Green might be ready to start to take over, if he works out that is.

Five toughest omissions: Ike Diogu (picked #9), Hakim Warrick (picked #19), Jarrett Jack (#22), Ersan Ilyasova (#36) & Louis Williams (picked #45).


Next up is the 2004 do-over draft....

[Ty-Land]

I like the look of the 2005 re-draft. I would agree on al of those selections.

With Ilyasova, I think if he wasn't injured prior to that draft, or sat out for a year or 2 he would have been in the lottery. He's only 20 yrs old now, 6'10 242lbs and finding his feet in the league. This guy is a player, and I hope for Milwaukee's sake they resign him no matter the cost instead of losing him to Europe or especially another NBA squad.

[Dan's Brain]

Especially now that they might need Yi insurance. He will certainly be thoroughly out-playing Ruben Patterson in a couple of years.

Good picks on David Lee and Danny Granger. And gutsy moves on Blatche on Louis Williams. I would have had the Clips taking Frye and the Bobcats maybe stretching for Diogu at 13.

[Matthew]

Er, where have I seen this idea before?

[Ty-Land]

Especially now that they might need Yi insurance. He will certainly be thoroughly out-playing Ruben Patterson in a couple of years.

Patterson is a FA and he is not coming back. That's 99% certain, as he won't get many minutes with Simmons back, CV or Yi playing some 3 (if Yi shows of course) and the fact he has been in trouble with the law again.

If Ersan returns (for the love of God!) he will back up the 3/4, and should get about 15 mins per game.

[Andrew]

I think people are forgetting about the sanctity of the game....it's already as enough negative connotations with it, the game doesn't need this from a 19 year old kid....there are thousands upon thousands of kids that age who would do anything to be in the situation he is in....hopefully they remember that....

No argument here. Hopefully it is just his camp throwing a bit of a tantrum and it will all blow over in time. If not, it could be another Vasquez situation which is the last thing the Bucks need.

I wouldn't change much around in your re-done 2005 Draft though I reckon Danny Granger could have gone as high as #4. I don't think there's any cracking the top three but personally I'd place Granger at the fourth pick and Williams at sixth.

[Dro]

I wouldn't change much around in your re-done 2005 Draft though I reckon Danny Granger could have gone as high as #4. I don't think there's any cracking the top three but personally I'd place Granger at the fourth pick and Williams at sixth.

Yeah, at this point, it looks like Felton, Villanueva, Lee, Granger and Ellis are definitely going to be better pros than Marvin Williams. And I'd even go as far to say that Gerald Green and Andrew Bynum are better prospects than Marvin, as things now stand.

[The X]

I like the look of the 2005 re-draft. I would agree on al of those selections.

With Ilyasova, I think if he wasn't injured prior to that draft, or sat out for a year or 2 he would have been in the lottery. He's only 20 yrs old now, 6'10 242lbs and finding his feet in the league. This guy is a player, and I hope for Milwaukee's sake they resign him no matter the cost instead of losing him to Europe or especially another NBA squad.

Yeah, as I go down in the years, I think it should get easier, as it's more about their field of work than rather still trying to project it....the 2005 draft has already had a handful of breakout players which probably made it a little easier....

as for Ilyasova, yep I'm a fan....& I know he was considered a lottery pick a 1/2 year out from the draft but he slid on draft day, but I'm expecting big things....maybe you can put him in Blatche's spot, that was a little bit of a toss up for me, both couldn't get into the lottery....

Er, where have I seen this idea before?

Probably on ESPN or any other basketball-related website....they've all done it before, although they tend to concentrate on the stronger drafts like 1985 & 2003, then do all of them back to 1984....I think the first time I saw a re-draft done was a few years back on ESPN, not sure....either way, I think every basketball commentator, analyst, journalist & fan has tossed up the idea on how the drafts would go if they were held in hindsight, with the Bowie over Jordan decision always being a popular decision....

as for my thread, it is merely my opinion on it....nothing unique or special, just my opinion & hopefully a conversation starter, especially for newer members who might not have come across threads from yesteryear....

I think people are forgetting about the sanctity of the game....it's already as enough negative connotations with it, the game doesn't need this from a 19 year old kid....there are thousands upon thousands of kids that age who would do anything to be in the situation he is in....hopefully they remember that....

No argument here. Hopefully it is just his camp throwing a bit of a tantrum and it will all blow over in time. If not, it could be another Vasquez situation which is the last thing the Bucks need.

I wouldn't change much around in your re-done 2005 Draft though I reckon Danny Granger could have gone as high as #4. I don't think there's any cracking the top three but personally I'd place Granger at the fourth pick and Williams at sixth.

I see where you are coming from on the Granger pick & they could possibly be switched....I still see Marvin Williams as having more star potential than Granger & that's why I have him at #4, although it should be interesting to see where he ends up....

I wouldn't change much around in your re-done 2005 Draft though I reckon Danny Granger could have gone as high as #4. I don't think there's any cracking the top three but personally I'd place Granger at the fourth pick and Williams at sixth.

Yeah, at this point, it looks like Felton, Villanueva, Lee, Granger and Ellis are definitely going to be better pros than Marvin Williams. And I'd even go as far to say that Gerald Green and Andrew Bynum are better prospects than Marvin, as things now stand.

I don't agree with your analysis on Williams, I think he'll still be a top 4 or 5 prospect in this draft....you mention Monta Ellis, he's had one good breakout year in an uptempo system, put Marvin Williams with the Warriors last season & he could've potentially had a bit of a breakout year....there's a reason why Williams was considered the number 1 prospect in the 2005 draft & I can't look past that, especially considering he's still only around 21 years old....I also definitely wouldn't throw Green & Bynum around, they both haven't shown a lot in their first couple of seasons that would suggest putting them ahead of Williams....

[jonthefon]

Aren't ESPN draft do-overs Insider only? As is a load of other stuff?

[benji]

I think it's silly to do the 2007 redraft before the players even play a regular season game...and 2006 before we see if they don't improve after their rookie year.

That said:

But none the less, almost ten percent of the Seattle population is Asian.

So almost ten percent, it's 15%! 3.4% is Chinese...7.9/1.5 in the MSA.

Milwaukee by comparison is 2.9/0.2 in the city, 1.9/0.3 in the MSA.

Although, one might dispute the Census...seeing as they count Koreans as Asians...