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Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:54 am
so who is it??
Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:42 pm
why do you hate stephen jackson?
Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:35 pm
Other.
Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:55 pm
drew gooden
Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:24 pm
Cuttino Mobley. I wonder why stephen jackson is on that list.
Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:45 pm
Sam Cassell
Fri Dec 12, 2003 8:30 pm
Out of that list, I pick Stephen Jackson. Even though he has emerged as one of the best "better than average" players in the league, he still isn't entitled to be prone to ballhogging - if someone can ever be entitled to such a thing.
Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:00 pm
stephen jackson: 34mpg, 13fgapg
how is this a ball hog
Sat Dec 13, 2003 12:04 am
ok, nvr mind bout stephen jackson... but back at SA he was a ballhog, for me at least... hehehehe...
Sat Dec 13, 2003 12:25 am
Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis, Jalen Rose and Cuttino Mobley.
Jalen is annoying because the Bulls announcers used to make excuses for him constantly ("Jalen's feeling it!"...no Jalen is a ballhog)
Ricky Davis and Cuttino Mobley are both keeping the ball away from the best (and far more interesting) player on their team.
Antoine Walker needs no explanation.
Cuttino Mobley is king though now...
Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:00 am
Ricky Davis and Jalen Rose
Sat Dec 13, 2003 10:28 am
Amare Stoudemire 225 shots, 42 turnovers, 16 assists.
Antoine Walker takes some bad shots, especially on the 3-ball, but does average 4.5 assists. Although after reading comments posted recently pertaining to the Boston Celtics, Danny Ainge and the whole deal, I think Walker is an uninformed fuckface, who thinks he deserves a contract extention like those recently signed by Allen Iverson, Jason Kidd or perhaps Kevin Garnett.
Sat Dec 13, 2003 12:25 pm
Forget Antoine, The Truth, you guys are lighting it up from the offensive end these days, I guess Danny Ainge thought the Celtics would be better if the team was completely built aroud Pierce, all they need now is someone else to step up i.e Brown, Baker, McCarty etc.
Sat Dec 13, 2003 1:57 pm
i say the celtics just lose and try to get Emeka Okafor then you can have a better inside out game......i mean Baker is good but he is also old and is not really a defensive presence
Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:04 pm
Steve Francis. I don't care how good he is, Yao needs to get at least 25 shot attempts a game.
Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:06 pm
yea franchise is gotta get the ball to yao more.....stephen jackson????
i know sometimes he tries to be like a pg and does things like running the break and trying to be the creator but he's not really a hog
Sat Dec 13, 2003 6:27 pm
yao needs like 16ish shot attempt per game seriously..
with mobley and francis around..
mobley shoots really well tho.. same with francis sometimes.. i guess you can't do anything about it unless you trade like francis for crawford and like another bull.. that'll be great =D
Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:46 pm
back in sac i always thought turkoglu was a ballhog.. not during their 2001-2002 playoff run, but last season.. he'd just jack it on call
Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:53 am
"Man-Child" Amare Stoudemire
Zach Randolph
"I'm So Cool, I Can Look And Act Like A Damn Fool" Ricky Davis gotta be the worst.
Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:27 am
Zach Randolph
randolph's apg: 2.4
other forwards (pf's & sf's) with the same average or less:
peja, jermaine o'neal, rashard lewis, harpring, marion, gasol, howard, baker. the list goes on...
yeh everyone's entitled to their opinion but...
Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:34 am
It's not about how many assist you average. It's about the amount of times you pass the ball compared to the amount you touch it.
I did some research. You're definitely right stastically about the other scorers. I was going off one or two games I had seen him in which is always a bad idea.
Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:54 am
Hotboy Ma$e wrote:It's not about how many assist you average. It's about the amount of times you pass the ball compared to the amount you touch it. I'm sure his is pretty low compared to other 20 point scoring big men.
it's not all about the numbers but they are a big factor in determining if a player is a ballhog. his 2.4 apg isn't a fluke. outside of KG, there isn't a big man who scores at least 20ppg that average over 3apg a game.
and considering how he is the #1 option on the offense and his age, zach's doing an admirable job as a passing big man. and if you watch blazers games you'd notice the high-low passes he runs w/wallace or the fact that he's starting to get double teamed when he's in the post and making the right pass.
he's not like amare, where you're not sure if you're going to get the ball back. it did take 2 weeks into the season for him to register an assist.
Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:56 am
Had already corrected myself
Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:59 am
Antoine "fat pig" Walker-i hate him
Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:31 am
Yeah...he's horse-face...or pig-face.
Personally, the most annoying is Mobley, he's a good shooter but the Rockets need the ball more in Yao's hands.
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