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Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby Andrew on Thu May 19, 2016 10:39 am

Jeff Hornacek reportedly set to become the next Knicks coach

The New York Knicks have reportedly found their next head coach, and it's not someone with strong ties to team president Phil Jackson or the triangle offense.

As first reported by Howard Beck of Bleacher Report, the Knicks are very near an agreement with Jeff Hornacek, most recently of the Phoenix Suns. Hornacek was fired by the Suns in early February following a terrible run of form and several public disagreements among players and the organization.


So yeah, that's pretty much out of left field. I don't know how many Knicks fans will be satisfied with that move - to say nothing of Carmelo Anthony - but if nothing else, at least he's not Rambis.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby NovU on Thu May 19, 2016 1:27 pm

So D'Antoni gets to coach Harden while Hornacek gets to coach Melo.

Daryl Morey's known for money ball while Phil's not. Fun times. How will this work out for these teams.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby mp3 on Thu May 19, 2016 4:24 pm

Interesting to say the least, not overly happy about it but at least it's not Rambis but we all know he will be named as an assistant no doubt.

As for Horny as coach he got a rough ride from management regarding the Morris problem that could of being handled better and the Suns had a ton of injuries to deal with when he got fired when the year before he had the Suns pushing for the 8th seed in a tough western conference so I guess we will see what he brings to team *cough* Triangle *cough*
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby Andrew on Thu May 19, 2016 6:57 pm

I imagine it's hard to get more than cautiously optimistic about it. Hornacek hasn't really accomplished enough as a coach to make it a really exciting hire, but he did a pretty solid job with a team that was broken up before it could really grow together. Like you said, at least he's not Kurt Rambis.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby mp3 on Thu May 19, 2016 7:04 pm

The only other possibility is that Phil has paid for Rambis to legally change his name to Jeff Hornacek, wear contact lenses and hope that nobody notices.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby Jeffx on Fri May 20, 2016 8:26 am

Andrew wrote:I don't know how many Knicks fans will be satisfied with that move - to say nothing of Carmelo Anthony - but if nothing else, at least he's not Rambis.



That's the attitude I have - not doing handstands over Hornacek, but he's not Rambis.

Just shows you how low things are at the Garden.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby Andrew on Fri May 20, 2016 9:16 am

On the bright side, low expectations can increase the chances of pleasant surprises.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby skoadam on Fri May 20, 2016 9:19 am

d'antoni one of the worst coaches ever, hornacek wont help knicks, harden and carmelo can end their careers now and no1 will notice that lol
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby PeacemanNOT on Fri May 20, 2016 9:20 am

You could only expect the Knicks to get better right? KP has had time to improve and then there's the free agency to add more talent.
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Postby skoadam on Fri May 20, 2016 9:22 am

PeacemanNOT wrote:You could only expect the Knicks to get better right? KP has had time to improve and then there's the free agency to add more talent.

with melo inside? never
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby PeacemanNOT on Fri May 20, 2016 9:26 am

What's wrong with Melo?
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby skoadam on Fri May 20, 2016 9:32 am

He is most destructive player in NBA right now. You cant build team around this guy. Harden is very similar. I will be very surprised if those guys will ever win title.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby Manni Live on Fri May 20, 2016 1:39 pm

As a Knicks fan i dont think it can get any worse than it already is so i guess ill just take it as it is.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby Jeffx on Fri May 20, 2016 10:33 pm

My question to Phil Jackson is this - he went out of his "network" to interview Hornacek, why didn't he do that with Thibodeau or Brooks?
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby skoadam on Fri May 20, 2016 10:42 pm

Jeffx, Horny will be more controllable? but also, with whole respect because i know Thibb have a lot of fans here, imo Thibb have no idea about offense, since last 5years in Chicago i never saw something new in their offense, he stopped 5years ago, zero ideas while whole league moved forward.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby Andrew on Fri May 20, 2016 10:45 pm

Judging by the role he received from Minnesota - and based on his experiences in Chicago - I'm guessing Thibs wanted more control than Jax was willing to give him.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby air gordon on Sat May 21, 2016 2:14 am

skoadam wrote: Thibb have no idea about offense, since last 5years in Chicago i never saw something new in their offense, he stopped 5years ago, zero ideas while whole league moved forward.

fair enough. one thing to consider is Thibs teams were ranked in the upper third of offensive rating when Rose was healthy. i do not think he was an offensive innovator but he was relatively successful

Hoiberg's offense finished 23rd and almost all stats were down compared to Thibs tenure except pace
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby skoadam on Sat May 21, 2016 3:28 am

air gordon wrote:
skoadam wrote: Thibb have no idea about offense, since last 5years in Chicago i never saw something new in their offense, he stopped 5years ago, zero ideas while whole league moved forward.

fair enough. one thing to consider is Thibs teams were ranked in the upper third of offensive rating when Rose was healthy. i do not think he was an offensive innovator but he was relatively successful

Hoiberg's offense finished 23rd and almost all stats were down compared to Thibs tenure except pace

hold on, its obvious for me that Thibb is waay better coach than Hoiberg, all i want to say is, he wasnt able to create new offense without Rose, Bulls lost 3seasons because of this. Compare Bulls situation and for example current Blazers without Aldridge and half of the team from previous season. This is why for me Thibb is only average coach, he wasnt able to adapt to new situation.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby NovU on Sat May 21, 2016 8:12 am

More important aspect of splendid coaching is putting right guys on the floor and coming up with right rotations. More than half the time when you are screaming at the monitor "why the fuck is he on the floor!?" you are probably right, that guy better belongs to the bench. Besides, the star players tend to play to their preference rather than entirely executing your coach's X and Os. Even Greg Pops failed in that regard too in Thunder series. Too many ISOs and stuck up plays by Aldridge and Kawhi. When they went to the bench, players were moving the ball better and putting up less contested shots. So how Thibb was so successful and at the same time notoriously blamed for breaking down and gassing out his key players, is not a rocket science. Imagine KD and Durant playing 10 more minutes per game during regular season. They'd win more ofc. That should also somewhat explain Thibb's struggle too. He no more had those 'right' combination of players on offense because goners were Korver and Rose and Nate Robinson was your best emergency plan. X and O will be only as good as your players.
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Postby air gordon on Sat May 21, 2016 9:58 am

skoadam wrote:all i want to say is, he wasnt able to create new offense without Rose, Bulls lost 3seasons because of this .

one way to look at it. or they lost because their best player was missing. for them to advance in the playoffs shorthanded was a success

Compare Bulls situation and for example current Blazers without Aldridge and half of the team from previous season. This is why for me Thibb is only average coach, he wasnt able to adapt to new situation

it's an inaccurate comparison. the bulls were in limbo due to injured Rose plus they were over the cap during those years. they couldn't make any significant moves until Boozer was amenistied. but hey, management thought the current roster was a championship contender and now that mistake is blowing up in their face. fyi last year's team made it just as far as the current blazers group ;)
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Postby mp3 on Sat May 21, 2016 6:52 pm

Hearing that Horny will be free to run his own offence and isn't tied to the triangle which is good news.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby skoadam on Sat May 21, 2016 9:00 pm

air gordon wrote:
skoadam wrote:all i want to say is, he wasnt able to create new offense without Rose, Bulls lost 3seasons because of this .

one way to look at it. or they lost because their best player was missing. for them to advance in the playoffs shorthanded was a success

Compare Bulls situation and for example current Blazers without Aldridge and half of the team from previous season. This is why for me Thibb is only average coach, he wasnt able to adapt to new situation

it's an inaccurate comparison. the bulls were in limbo due to injured Rose plus they were over the cap during those years. they couldn't make any significant moves until Boozer was amenistied. but hey, management thought the current roster was a championship contender and now that mistake is blowing up in their face. fyi last year's team made it just as far as the current blazers group ;)

Well Portland lost their best player also. btw. success to advance playoffs? eastern conference? are you kiddin me?
Yes they made it just as far as current blazers but notice one thing, bulls with almost the same roster from years and portland with completely new roster build from bench players.
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Re: Jeff Hornacek will reportedly coach Knicks

Postby skoadam on Sat May 21, 2016 9:12 pm

NovU wrote:More important aspect of splendid coaching is putting right guys on the floor and coming up with right rotations. More than half the time when you are screaming at the monitor "why the fuck is he on the floor!?" you are probably right, that guy better belongs to the bench. Besides, the star players tend to play to their preference rather than entirely executing your coach's X and Os. Even Greg Pops failed in that regard too in Thunder series. Too many ISOs and stuck up plays by Aldridge and Kawhi. When they went to the bench, players were moving the ball better and putting up less contested shots. So how Thibb was so successful and at the same time notoriously blamed for breaking down and gassing out his key players, is not a rocket science. Imagine KD and Durant playing 10 more minutes per game during regular season. They'd win more ofc. That should also somewhat explain Thibb's struggle too. He no more had those 'right' combination of players on offense because goners were Korver and Rose and Nate Robinson was your best emergency plan. X and O will be only as good as your players.

I will never forgive thibb one thing, giving 24-30mpg for Hinrich and now the best part....he was in defensive rotation!!!!!! I can understand 5seasons ago, but he keep him in rotation last year! most important minutes and whos on the court? Freaaaakin Kirk. Next thing, giving Boozer so many minutes, limit Gibson minutes and not improve that player as starter in his best years. Thibb is only average coach, good in defensive sets, poor in ofensive, average overall+ he cant adapt to new situation, no new vision. He will be good for Wolves for sure, because he will fix their bad defense but nothing more.
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Postby air gordon on Sat May 21, 2016 10:35 pm

Again, it's an inaccurate comparison. Portland chose to let multiple players leave or "lost" them due to free agency. Batum they traded in a contract year.

Rose was INJURED and fresh off of signing a max contract.

It's just lazy and convenient to downplay a teams success because they played in the east.
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Postby [Q] on Sun May 22, 2016 5:01 am

Instead of going with someone who will keep & teach the triangle, they picked someone who lost to it two years in a row in the Finals
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