Derrick Rose trade

[basketballmind321]

Guy is getting paid 20 mil in season not playing even close roll player type of numbers...player with terrible attitude, work ethic towards bulls organisation...shooting 33 % from field...averaging career lows....which team should utilise derrick rose skills and got him and for what? any ideas....if bulls GM are smart they should get rid of him while he has some value on market maybe they can get back some good pieces...if I was GM I would trade him no brainer to keep this guy in team + he is more missing games then actually playing and getting paid big time.

[air gordon]

have any suggestions of teams that would trade for him?

[PeacemanNOT]

To be honest, I don't think anybody would risk trading for Rose even if you take his contract out of the picture. He's injury prone and a lot of the time he makes his team play worse (turnovers, missed field goals)

He's not the same player he used to be and people need to accept that. If he ever lands somewhere else it won't be for a trade, it will be from free agency and even then he'll be offered less playing time unless it's some team like the Sixers or something

[iamSamke]

100% agree with PeacemanNOT

[NovU]

Nice thread, rookie.

We've been over this and solution is...

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jorogl2

[Stress Fracture]

Nice thread, rookie.

We've been over this and solution is...

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jorogl2

I don't know, but I like this trade.

[Andrew]

Trading Rose is much easier said than done. Few teams are likely to take the risk, and they're not going to give up worthwhile assets to do so. That means the Bulls are going to have to take on some even worse contracts to be rid of him, and likely won't receive much in the way of decent players, or high (and unprotected) draft picks.

When a team makes a trade, they ideally want to make themselves better with the talent they receive in return, or position themselves to get better in the future with cap space and/or draft picks. Lateral moves are far from ideal, while moves that set a team back even further are obviously even worse. As it stands, I don't believe the Bulls can actually make a deal involving Rose that won't make things worse, because his value is so low at present.

And so, as I've said a few times in the Bulls thread, they're stuck...at least for now. He has to play better so they're actually getting value for money, or so that they can trade him; either way, they need him to play better. They might get a little more leverage once he becomes an expiring contract, especially if a team is looking to trade a disgruntled player and start over, but until then, their hands are tied.

[basketballmind321]

So how do you guys think will he be traded in trade deadline because obviously bulls organisation is fed up with D-rose injuries and they are not getting back anything from money they invested...so in my opinion they got nothing to lose unless guy starts to play his mind out ....because Aaron Brooks can give even better numbers then D-rose is capable at the moment and he is backup so what's the point to keep guy like him in team + Jimmy Buttler comments about his dedication and ''hard work'' won't make anything easier and I like the idea he should be traded to Rockets ...if not I am sure KD is coming to Houston in free agency and Russ will stay in Thunder.

[Andrew]

I don't think he'll be traded at the deadline, for the reasons stated above. No one's disputing his disappointing performance. The question is, how can you possibly trade him now? That is to say, who's going to want to trade for him? Who's actually going to be prepared to make the Bulls an offer that isn't going to make the situation even worse, leaving them hamstrung with a couple of even worse contracts in the name of getting the deal done?

[air gordon]

Nice thread, rookie.

what's up with this rookie talk? you better than anyone that's joined the community after you?

bulls are indeed are stuck. they won't find anything of value better than Rose. there still remains the chance of him being remotely decent and the bulls won't get something like that back. it only takes one suitor but i wouldn't hold my breath

Paxson's specialty is salary dump trades. i find it unlikely he would just get rid of the hometown kid in that kind of deal

[basketballmind321]

its discussion you got problem with that?

[Andrew]

Yes, it's a discussion. With opposing views and counterpoints. I don't think anyone here has a problem with that.

[NovU]

Haha, sorry basketballmind3321 if you were offended by calling you a rookie. I meant as a compliment as we don't see new comers making a nice thread for discussions now days. Keep up the good work.

Bulls thread usually is occupied by bulls fans here so it's a nice change that we talk something interesting like this on a forum scale.

I can see most of us agree that Rose is a lost hope for the Bulls. But perhaps Andrew is right. Cards the Bulls can play is limited. It's pretty much wait and see approach for now.

[Andrew]

Funnily enough, he was probably one of the few bright spots for them in the blowout loss to the Warriors. If he can lift his game from here on out, maybe some options will open up. I still don't think it's really going to be feasible until he's an expiring contract, though.

[Lamrock]

Never had much interest in having him on the team, but with Portland in need of hitting the salary floor, and unlikely to be good any time soon, I'd consider a deal along the lines of Kaman for Rose and two firsts.

[mp3]

Rose looks washed up which disappoints because I love watching him play but he only shows flashes of his former self and I always think when I watch the Bulls could this be the game he gets injured, think teams would be wary of trading for him unless it's to free up cap space.

[I Hate Mondays]

I lost count on how many times he randomly broke a shooting slump and stepped up his game in big games. Worst 3PT% season last year, yet his banked winning 3-pointer against the cavs is still a top 3 play of the year in many people's eyes, NBA included. He is a mistery to me.

[Andrew]

He was pretty good today, but yeah, it comes in flashes and the consistency hasn't been there.

[air gordon]

Never had much interest in having him on the team, but with Portland in need of hitting the salary floor, and unlikely to be good any time soon, I'd consider a deal along the lines of Kaman for Rose and two firsts.

you'd consider?
this offer makes novu's trade scenario a no brainer

[basketballmind321]

sorry over reacted but thanks for support and understanding he is still quick as cat but bulls now run plays more for Jimmy Buttler and you can't blame bulls for doing that I just don't get it why player who still got some explosivness left can't play with better numbers + he worked on his shot all summer....so that's really weird that he is on slump this year.

[NovU]

Never had much interest in having him on the team, but with Portland in need of hitting the salary floor, and unlikely to be good any time soon, I'd consider a deal along the lines of Kaman for Rose and two firsts.

you'd consider?
this offer makes novu's trade scenario a no brainer

Now you know why NovU is the finest Fantasy GM. It's no brainer.

[Corymach7]

Made this as my trade logic:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ho44cm2

[Andrew]

Yeah, no thanks. Also, it's not even a trade involving Derrick Rose.