Jason Kidd loses his temper

[Andrew]

From the Kings game. It's no Coke Spilling, but Kidd's still keeping up the sideline antics.


https://vine.co/v/izLrHv0MnWV

[NovU]

Kidd was a failure for the Nets, and he has been a failure for the Bucks too. His handpicked player MCW is now a bencher and the player he sent home packing is now a star for the Phoenix team. It's not really referees that are making him lose and lose. It's his incapability to manage a team. This is why I don't like ex-player coaching or managing a team in this stat driven league of today.

[Andrew]

Steve Kerr's done an alright job, as has Luke Walton in his stead. Historically speaking, a lot of coaches (including very successful ones) are former players, at some level of the game. I'd certainly agree that not everyone is cut out for it though, and so far Kidd doesn't seem to have the temperament or patience for the job.

[bowdown]

I don't understand why they traded away Knight who was playing pretty good at that point too. MCW has never impressed other than being 6'6 and having good games once in a while. All the other times he is average or terrible.


Edit: And guess what? Knight is a year younger than MCW too.

[shadowgrin]

Heh MCW. Remember when people thought the Sixers were crazy for trading their future all-star/HoFer away just because he won rookie of the year. Good times.
He's not good, the Sixers were just that terrible making him look good.

[NovU]

He's not good, the Sixers were just that terrible making him look good.

I thought so too.

But you still can't respect 76ers status quo, it's an ultimate epitome of negligence. And that pick from MCW is Lakers' to lose now as they look to fight for it via same 76ers' favorite method, tanking.

[benji]

Kidd was a failure for the Nets, and he has been a failure for the Bucks too. His handpicked player MCW is now a bencher and the player he sent home packing is now a star for the Phoenix team. It's not really referees that are making him lose and lose. It's his incapability to manage a team. This is why I don't like ex-player coaching or managing a team in this stat driven league of today.

Kidd's a bad example to use, he's very high on analytics, and the Bucks new owners are totally into it. Almost more than anyone else, really.

Kidd also uses the exams idea from Rick Carlisle. Which is "innovative" coaching.

When Kidd moved Pierce to "PF" and played Shaun Livingston with Deron Williams in the backcourt it was permanent in part because he asked the Nets analytics staff if the idea had any support in the stats.

The Bucks problem is that their defense is shit. He's killed the pace. When last year he let the team run and they played great D. (While having a crappy offense.) It doesn't help that Kidd hadn't figured out a rotation until last week. MCW just went for 12/6/9/3/3. As part of an eight man rotation using only Jabari, Henson and MCW off the bench. Not time to write them off in the East yet.

[NovU]

Tough to buy that he'should analytic when he traded for MCW for Knight who was starting to thrive. And he refuses to play Henson who is his best bet for defense sine Larry Sanders era. 8 man rotation was luck as Vasquez is injured.

[benji]

Where's he supposed to get minutes from? You can't play him alongside Monroe very easily. They get their shots from the same spots only Monroe can create his own shot, and he'd lose his key defensive attributes having to chase stretch/"small ball" fours. Monroe definitely can't chase them. Giannis and Parker at least stretch slightly and can chase those guys. Not a huge Johnny O'Bryant fan but he has a 16 footer he's darn good at, and his lack of turnovers makes him basically even with Henson on offensive efficiency.

Henson has played 20+ minutes in the last four games. The team is 9 points per 100 possessions worse offensively with Henson on the floor! And nine points better with O'Bryant on the floor. The defense is a wash.

I thought the deal was stupid, but I can see why the Bucks didn't want to shell out $12 million for Knight when they could punt with MCW (paying him less than $3 million and not having to talk extension for another year), a player who likely reminded Kidd of himself before discovering he was an atrocious defender at times.

It's not like stats-heavy teams can't make mistakes.

That original Jennings deal was great for Milwaukee, they also got Middleton in it.

[NovU]

Stat driven people dont generally make moves like that, Monroe and MCW. BTW Jennings was before Kidd era, he doesn't deserve no credit for removing him. BTW saving money from MCW-Knight deal for 1 season while you go ahead and overpay Middleton? Lets see how that pan out.

You cant whitewash his mistakes leading to status quo. He'd be in contention in East with Bulls, Pacers, and Raptors otherwise for shitty decisions he made. Starting Bazemore and Mayo isnt a long term solution regardless what numbers MCW produces. Its not gonna get the job done in this year's East. Sorry but Kidd hasn't figured out jack not just yet.

[air gordon]

this is sort of a recycling of a discussion from the offseason. you still don't like the bucks moves haha

seems like everyone is getting a pass on bad contracts since the impending salary cap explosion... so should middleton

henson's contract does seem questionable right now due to his fit

Bazemore? ATL's Bazemore?

[NovU]

Bayless

[benji]

Its not gonna get the job done in this year's East.

Not having LeBron James is not going to get the job done in the East.

Same as the last ten years arguably. Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving just help cement it like Wade and Bosh did.

[[Q]]

Just read an article highlighting the before & after of having Zaza Pachulia on your team. And they gave him away for nothing.