2014 NBA Trades And Transactions

[NovU]

Right. I am most interested about his shooting now. Shooting touch isnt something you can improve by will. The Heat needs him to open up the floor. I will def keep eyes on his release.

[Alpha_]

DeJuan Blair signed with the Wizards
Rodney Stuckey signed with the Pacers
Brandon Rush signed with the Warriors
James Jones signed with the Cavaliers
Luke Ridnour signed with the Magic

[[Q]]

Lol @ James Jones

[NovU]

James Jones and Mike Miller are work of LBJ playing a GM. Ray Allen might join his team too.

From Ask Ira

Q: LeBron also wanted Zydrunas Ilgauskas when he was in Miami, and how did that work out? -- Michael.
A: If nothing else, LeBron is loyal to those who have been loyal to him, which is why he requested Ilgauskas' presence with the Heat in 2010, why he wanted Mike Miller with him in both Miami and now Cleveland, and why Jones is headed to Cleveland. That's what happens when a player also is de facto general manager. LeBron has considerable basketball sense, and sway. But it can get difficult for a coach when he knows his star player has personally delivered certain players to the rotation.

[Alpha_]

Remaining FAs;

Eric Bledsoe (RFA)
Greg Monroe (RFA)
Evan Turner
Shawn Marion
Jameer Nelson
Andray Blatche
Ray Allen
Ramon Sessions
Mo Williams
Jordan Crawford
Andrew Bynum
Al-Farouq Aminu
Jermaine O'Neal
Aaron Brooks
Emeka Okafor
Michael Beasley
Elton Brand
Glen Davis
Xavier Henry
Wesley Johnson
Jordan Hamilton
Charlie Villanueva
Shelvin Mack (RFA)
Gustavo Ayon
Jimmer Freddette
Ivan Johnson
Francisco Garcia
Jan Vesely
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Dante Cunningham
Richard Hamilton
Greg Oden
James Anderson
Darius Miller
Kenyon Martin
E'Twaun Moore
Metta World Peace
Ekpe Udoh
Earl Clark
Antawn Jamison
Al Harrington
Toney Douglas
Ryan Hollins
Shannon Brown
Chauncey Billups
Byron Mullens
Nazr Mohammed
Hedo Turkoglu
Jeremy Tyler
Greg Stiemsma
Chris Singleton
Doron Lamb
Mickael Pietrus
Daniel Gibson
Rasual Butler
Earl Watson
Stephen Jackson
Tyrus Thomas
Jared Cunningham
Marcus Camby
Willie Reed
Othyus Jeffers
Josh Howard
Robbie Hummel
Aron Baynes (RFA)
Garrett Temple
Jamaal Tinsley
Adonis Thomas
Dahntay Jones
Josh Harrellson
Damion Jones
James Southerland
DJ White
Ryan Gomes
Peyton Siva
Jason Collins
Royce White
Lamar Odom
Andris Biedrins

[Andrew]

From Ask Ira

Q: LeBron also wanted Zydrunas Ilgauskas when he was in Miami, and how did that work out? -- Michael.
A: If nothing else, LeBron is loyal to those who have been loyal to him, which is why he requested Ilgauskas' presence with the Heat in 2010, why he wanted Mike Miller with him in both Miami and now Cleveland, and why Jones is headed to Cleveland. That's what happens when a player also is de facto general manager. LeBron has considerable basketball sense, and sway. But it can get difficult for a coach when he knows his star player has personally delivered certain players to the rotation.

They went to the Finals that year, and lost in six games. I'd say it worked out alright; Miller's presence obviously helped in the following two years as well.

As dangerous as it can be for stars to be allowed to handpick players for the roster, I think LeBron's done a decent job of it. In fact, I'd say that he's done a better job of it than MJ did when he was playing for the Bulls. Too often, MJ's Tar Heel loyalty seemingly got in the way in matters like that.

[NovU]

Latest Fun Rumour: Cavs open to trading Wiggins for Love

A league source said on July 17 that the Cavs are now willing to trade the No. 1 overall pick in the 2014 draft.

Wiggins, a 6-foot-8, 194-pounder, has played well at the Las Vegas Summer League, where he’s become a crowd favorite. The former Kansas star has averaged 13.7 points and 3.0 rebounds in the Cavs’ first three games. However, he’s shooting just 37.8 percent from the field.

Up until this point, it was assumed the Cavs wanted to hang onto Wiggins, largely because of comments made by Coach David Blatt.

However, a source said James wants the 6-10, 250-pound Love on the roster.

And, what James wants, he normally gets.

Why I wanted it to happen as discussed in other thread... this guy says it kinda well.

The team did add Andrew Wiggins with the first pick in the draft. Wiggins, though, did not perform well at Kansas last year. And so far in summer league, Wiggins has not impressed. He shot just 34.5% in his first two game.

Yes, I think summer league doesn’t really matter much. But I should note…

- I keep seeing people get excited about a player based on some summer league highlights only to see that a box score result that suggests the player is really not producing (Dante Exum is a good example of this issue).
- Although summer league doesn’t matter much, what Wiggins is doing is consistent with what we saw at Kansas. Wiggins can definitely take shots. Not sure what else he does well. Being “athletic” is simply not the same as being “effective” (i.e. producing wins!).

Assuming Wiggins really doesn’t produce wins in large quantities, it would make sense for the Cavs to think about moving him for a player like Kevin Love. LeBron’s window to win titles is clearly finite. If the Cavs want to win a title with LeBron, the team needs to do what it can to acquire productive talent now (and not hope that Wiggins or the other young players will become productive talent).

[Sauru]

i still think its pointless to trade wiggins for a player than can just get next season but whatever. gotta give lebron what he wants

[Alpha_]

Damn LBJ. Don't trade Wiggins!

[_Steve_]

One could read between the Cavs didn't got what they expected when they drafted Wiggins.
I'd still give that kid a chance to develop into a NBA player and gamble on Love next year.

[NovU]

My stance still remains the same that they should at least consider the deal including Wiggins.

Players like Love doesn't come too often available in the market especially in their prime. What guarantee is there that CLE will always be his favorable destination in the upcoming offseason. What guarantee is there that the Wolves won't re-sign him to an extension or trade him to somewhere he'll be happy. Love is next in line star player only after CP3, LBJ, and Durant. So you still think it's absolutely the best to take risk losing possibly a top 5 player in the league?

The Cavs can go after Noah, Durant, Love, or Horford(Bosh alike) in 2015. Whoop dee doo, let's just wait and see if we can get one of them or two because Wiggins is too great to lose! The Cavs are the BEST destination for FA so we are confident that we will get one! LoL @ this.

Realistically it won't be until Wiggin's 3rd or 4th season until he can start to play at significantly high level, that's if he can live up to his hype. Meantime say good bye to LBJ's prime years! No rings I tell LBJ with the Cavs if they walk this path. QMI2020

LeBron James has reached out to Kevin Love to express his desire to play with him.

LBJ knows it and is after Love himself.

[Alpha_]

Eric Bledsoe rejects $48M offer from Suns
Suns to keep Shavlik Randolph
Glen Davis re-signed with the Clippers
Jimmer Fredette to sign with the Pelicans
Ish Smith to sign with the Rockets

[Alpha_]

Xavier Henry re-signed with the Lakers
Wesley Johnson re-signed with the Lakers
Kendall Marshall waived by the Lakers
Eric Griffin signed with the Mavericks
Jannero Pargo re-signed with the Hornets
Udonis Haslem re-signed with the Heat

[shadowgrin]

Eric Bledsoe turning down the Suns qualifying offer, could be interesting...or not.

From Ask Ira

Q: LeBron also wanted Zydrunas Ilgauskas when he was in Miami, and how did that work out? -- Michael.
A: If nothing else, LeBron is loyal to those who have been loyal to him, which is why he requested Ilgauskas' presence with the Heat in 2010, why he wanted Mike Miller with him in both Miami and now Cleveland, and why Jones is headed to Cleveland. That's what happens when a player also is de facto general manager. LeBron has considerable basketball sense, and sway. But it can get difficult for a coach when he knows his star player has personally delivered certain players to the rotation.

lol no wonder LeBron's former BFF Mo Williams got butthurt and depressed when LeBron left Cleveland without him.

[_Steve_]

lol no wonder LeBron's former BFF Mo Williams got butthurt and depressed when LeBron left Cleveland without him.

LeBron has a sense for suckers at PG. That's why he left Napier with the Heat.

[NovU]

What can we expect from him with Irving then? Will he ask for a trade for his little bro Rio?

[NovU]

Why Flip Will Lose Love, and Why That Doesn't Matter

Love is like a Picasso. You walk into a store where somebody wants to sell the Picasso for $500, you do not think "Oh, this sucker doesn't know he has a Picasso! I'm going to see if I can get it for $250. I'll wait him out, he clearly wants to sell."

You do not do that. You take out your wallet, and you plop down $500 as fast as you fucking can before someone else walks in the store and yells "Holy shit, a Picasso!" and starts a bidding war that you might lose. Because there are no other picasso's coming on the market any time soon.

Kahn is no more in Minnesota. Teams will actually have to open up their wallet.

[Andrew]

A colourful analogy, but since the store owner/sucker presumably doesn't know the value of the painting, the shrewd buyer would first ask "Would you take $350 for it?" If they're not willing to haggle, then by all means put down the $500 before someone else does.

[shadowgrin]

Those boxscoregeeks guys are terrible at analogies, not just that article but other articles as well.
It took Andrew one sentence to show how stupid that analogy is.

[NovU]

The Wolves are miserably trying to convince Love to stay. It's only smart thing to do because players like Love doesn't end up on your team too often, especially when you are the Wolves your chance is through draft.

This fiasco is quite the fun because the Wolves also know Cavs are desperate or needs to be if they want to grant LBJ's wish or couple him up with actual true superstar not like overhyped Irving. As for the Warriors, I think they will eventually come around when push comes to a shove. It's a choice between max-pay Klay or max-pay Love while sacrificing a couple piece.

This brings back to my point, I would gladly sacrifice Wiggins for Love and wouldn't take risk of losing him, before it becomes too late. Keeping Wiggins would be a move to secure the future. Consider that Wiggins's best days are LBJ in twilight years. No surprise LBJ reached out to Love as he could start winning immediately.

[Sauru]

Why Flip Will Lose Love, and Why That Doesn't Matter

Love is like a Picasso. You walk into a store where somebody wants to sell the Picasso for $500, you do not think "Oh, this sucker doesn't know he has a Picasso! I'm going to see if I can get it for $250. I'll wait him out, he clearly wants to sell."

You do not do that. You take out your wallet, and you plop down $500 as fast as you fucking can before someone else walks in the store and yells "Holy shit, a Picasso!" and starts a bidding war that you might lose. Because there are no other picasso's coming on the market any time soon.

Kahn is no more in Minnesota. Teams will actually have to open up their wallet.

these 2 things do not relate. you should use something like a house for a better example. say you really want a guys house and he wants 300k for it but you want to only give him 200k because he is 6 months behind and very close to foreclosure. he says "no way this house is amazing i will take no less than 300k (or if you are the wolves you ask for 400k) and i refuse to budge on price" so now the guy says well screw him i will wait til he loses the house and i can pick it up for 100k.


now of course someone could come along and offer the 300k for the house but then the man could just find another house thats almost just as could (possible even fit his needs better) without having to pay more than he was willing to pay

[Andrew]

Those boxscoregeeks guys are terrible at analogies, not just that article but other articles as well.
It took Andrew one sentence to show how stupid that analogy is.

Two sentences to be fair, but I could edit a semi-colon in there.

[NovU]

Why Flip Will Lose Love, and Why That Doesn't Matter

Love is like a Picasso. You walk into a store where somebody wants to sell the Picasso for $500, you do not think "Oh, this sucker doesn't know he has a Picasso! I'm going to see if I can get it for $250. I'll wait him out, he clearly wants to sell."

You do not do that. You take out your wallet, and you plop down $500 as fast as you fucking can before someone else walks in the store and yells "Holy shit, a Picasso!" and starts a bidding war that you might lose. Because there are no other picasso's coming on the market any time soon.

Kahn is no more in Minnesota. Teams will actually have to open up their wallet.

these 2 things do not relate. you should use something like a house for a better example. say you really want a guys house and he wants 300k for it but you want to only give him 200k because he is 6 months behind and very close to foreclosure. he says "no way this house is amazing i will take no less than 300k (or if you are the wolves you ask for 400k) and i refuse to budge on price" so now the guy says well screw him i will wait til he loses the house and i can pick it up for 100k.


now of course someone could come along and offer the 300k for the house but then the man could just find another house thats almost just as could (possible even fit his needs better) without having to pay more than he was willing to pay

Well, this is kind of mentality the cavs seem to have and is why I believe they will never win anything real like in their 44years of existence.

[Andrew]

Mavs void Rashard Lewis' contract because of knee injury

[Kevin]

Poor Rashard.