Eastern Conference Finals Match-up: (1) Cavs vs. (3) Magic

Alright... I just assumed you've rated it without reviewing the others.. (as what that quote above is stating)

Fair enough, but you have to agree that Lebron's shot was equally difficult as Hedo's if not more. I think it's more difficult though, Hedo had a lot of time to set up his shot but Lebron had to get it off in 1 second. Still, both shots are fantastic to me.

LeBron's shot was far more difficult that Hedo's = Clutch and quite Lucky !
Hedo's shot was in Iso = Pure Clutch
The Cavs must win at least one in Orlando to take back their HomeCourt Advantage .

...none of the really good clutch shots have been on this high of a stage in many years. Maybe..just maybe...the Larry johnson 4 point player for the knicks in 99'..but that wasn't a last second game winner.

How bout Fisher's 0.4 shot against the Spurs and Stockton's series-clinching shot against the Rockets that sent them to the Finals?

I didn't see any of those shots. But if you say they were both in the west finals..then sure. I'm talking about stuff i've seen though.

Kobe against Detroit 04 Finals?

Both shots were difficult and I dont see the point of discussing which shot is harder since it is not important how hard the shot is - its just important that you make it.

All in all Hedo is more clutch than LeBron.

All in all Hedo is more clutch than LeBron.

Agree . . .

Well its obvious so far but LeBron seems to be on his way to reaching a level where he also starts deciding games by just hitting the last shot. Hedo just has been clutch for the last 2-3 years.
But LeBron will have to show that he too can hit game winner because that is just what superstars and legends do. That was the first step. Nice shot.

Damn, that was a great game....I thought (& hoped) the Magic had it wrapped up, but Lebron just made a tough shot....it was huge....he misses that, I don't think they recover....Cavs were very, very lucky....

I found myself watching that last shot again and again, and again... Sure, Turk made a great shot, but that 3... Hopefully, Cavs won't blow a lead (if they get one, of course) in game 3. I don't want to regret getting up in middle of the night just to watch something like that again.

^Here watch it some more:

He got a pretty good look, I'd say it was a great shot. If we're going to categorise any game winners as lucky, we might as well call them all lucky shots.

I don't see how it was a lucky shot cause...

1. He has proved that he is now a great jump shooter in these playoffs... look up his jumpshooting stats.
2. He wasn't falling down or off balance or touched or anything of that nature.
3. You can clearly see him get a perfect release on the shot and was looking directly at the rim.

....people who keep clinging to it being a lucky shot are just trying to defuse what will forever be considered one of the greatest moments in NBA history. Just accept it for what it is and move on. The only flaw in lebron's game now is his poor free throw shooting...he's now one of the good jumpshooters in the league and an elite help defender....not to mention clutch.

If we're going to categorise any game winners as lucky, we might as well call them all lucky shots.

Come to think of it, I will have to backpedal on that a little. There are some you could certainly call lucky:

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But with a shot like LeBron's where he got a good look at the basket and put up a good attempt (as opposed to a blind hurl or wild tap), I think you've got to give him his due on that one.

All last shots are lucky shots. (Look at what SVG was telling his team...they were unlucky, they climbed back from 23 down, but they were unlucky, nothing they could do about it.)

The only difference on a last shot is between someone who can get off the shot and someone who can't. A Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Carmelo, etc. can always get themselves a shot. This is why you run a last second three for a Wade or LeBron even though they aren't incredible three point shooters, simply because they will have the shot, while "random teammate" will not.

Nobody remembers the last second shots that didn't go in. (Notice, that when a last second shot doesn't, everyone says "they should have never been in that situation.")

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I don't see how it was a lucky shot cause...

1. He has proved that he is now a great jump shooter in these playoffs... look up his jumpshooting stats.
2. He wasn't falling down or off balance or touched or anything of that nature.
3. You can clearly see him get a perfect release on the shot and was looking directly at the rim.

....people who keep clinging to it being a lucky shot are just trying to defuse what will forever be considered one of the greatest moments in NBA history. Just accept it for what it is and move on. The only flaw in lebron's game now is his poor free throw shooting...he's now one of the good jumpshooters in the league and an elite help defender....not to mention clutch.

That was a catch and shoot situation !
Try doing that . . .
and he's not one of the good jumpshooters in the game today , he's just an above average jumpshooter .
My Top 5
1. Ray Allen
2. Ben Gordon
3. Dirk Nowitzki
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Rashard Lewis
. . . 14. James

Did you read what I said?...I said "in these playoffs". I love when people jump at the chance to disagree just for the sake of doing so. You probably read when I said "good jumpershooter" and "lebron" and immediately scrolled dont to quick post.

Only time I believe a game winner is lucky is if the player is off balance when taking the shot, didn't have a good look at the rim, player doesn't normally make shots from area or an overall low % shot...like from halfcourt or full court. None of that applied to lebron's shot.

I don't need you to come up with your own unmerited list of jumpershooters when I have stats at my finger tips...lebron is now a good jump shooter as evidenced by it's consistency in these playoffs. fin.

The only flaw in lebron's game now is his poor free throw shooting and post up play...he's now one of the good jumpshooters in the league and an elite help defender....not to mention clutch.

Fixed.
For a freakish physical specimen it will be wise for him to post up against defenders and abuse them. More chance for a high percentage shot.

I wouldn't say its a low point in his game...but it's definitly not a strong point. I agree though ...he'll need to work on that as he gets older and his knees/legs start to leave him.

Can't wait for game 3 and also hope LeBron's teammates gain more confidence from that game winner espeacially Mo and Delonte

LeBron´s last shot was more a lucky hit, more not and Hedo is a simple 4th Quarter-Player

Magic win the next game.

You have my Ewing guarantee.

I hope it too, therefore Go Magic Go and win it

Edit: All in one a crazy-game

LeBron´s last shot was more a lucky hit, more not and Hedo is a simple 4th Quarter-Player

Except his pure stroke, his clutch ability is really the only thing Hedo does better than LeBron. So don't get overhyped on it.

Except his pure stroke, his clutch ability is really the only thing Hedo does better than LeBron. So don't get overhyped on it.

Yes bro aber ist einmal LeBron verletzt so richitg krass, so ist auch Cleveland nix mehr wert

Edit: Bist aus Deutschland ist ja schön einen Deutschenkollegen hier zu sehen

English please.

Except his pure stroke, his clutch ability is really the only thing Hedo does better than LeBron. So don't get overhyped on it.

Yes bro aber ist einmal LeBron verletzt so richitg krass, so ist auch Cleveland nix mehr wert

Edit: Bist aus Deutschland ist ja schön einen Deutschenkollegen hier zu sehen

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Yes bro aber ist einmal LeBron verletzt so richitg krass, so ist auch Cleveland nix mehr wert

Edit: Bist aus Deutschland ist ja schön einen Deutschenkollegen hier zu sehen

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Yes bro but once injured LeBron richitg so krass, so Cleveland is also nothing more valuable

Edit: Are from Germany is so beautiful a German colleagues here

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Yes bro aber ist einmal LeBron verletzt so richitg krass, so ist auch Cleveland nix mehr wert

Edit: Bist aus Deutschland ist ja schön einen Deutschenkollegen hier zu sehen

this text was translated using the supar-dupar google translate:

Yes bro but once injured LeBron richitg so krass, so Cleveland is also nothing more valuable

Edit: Are from Germany is so beautiful a German colleagues here

lol thanks