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Fri May 26, 2006 3:47 pm

I have a feeling Colangelo's pulling a smokescreen, it really makes no sense to me why they would pick Bargnani when more than half of the international players that have gone in the draft or predicted to be the next Nowitzki or Gasol have ended up big time busts.

Fri May 26, 2006 4:53 pm

Image

Jersey looks familiar ?
Oh ye Tskitishvili is wearing a Benetton Treviso jersey ...
And whos on Benetton Treviso ?
Andrea Bargnani.

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Not saying Bargnani will turn into Tskitishvili but I rather not risk drafting him but if we do I wouldn't mind it I guess. Make sense ? Ye ...

Fri May 26, 2006 4:55 pm

Um, Tskitishvili is basketballing Moses, no way is that a bad thing.

Fri May 26, 2006 5:02 pm

Sam. wrote:Image

Jersey looks familiar ?
Oh ye Tskitishvili is wearing a Benetton Treviso jersey ...
And whos on Benetton Treviso ?
Andrea Bargnani.

Image

Not saying Bargnani will turn into Tskitishvili but I rather not risk drafting him but if we do I wouldn't mind it I guess. Make sense ? Ye ...


Tskitishvilli was warming the bench for Benetton, he barely played and was drafted purely on potential. Bargnani has been producing big time for them for two years now, he plays alot of minutes. He also had 13 points and 2 blocks in 20 minutes against the Raptors in a pre-season game.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=z14brkHotT0&search=bargnani

25 points, 10/11 FG

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QuBVnY0rqzQ&search=bargnani

11 points, 5 rebounds, 3 blocks while Larry Bird watches in the crowd.

Fri May 26, 2006 5:42 pm

The euro or rather international success conversion is very poor of late and the Raptors aren't in need of taking up another bust. Im not saying LaMarcus or Tyrus will not be entitled to bust status but I'd see them making the transition way more easier whilst Bargnani can play(though doing that against the Raptors is no big deal specially in a preseason game) I think their safer with LaMarcus (Tyrus is too small, they need to get Bosh at PF) or trading that pick for a current star.

No real physical test has come on him either having played in Europe for two or three years, I think the Raptors should pass on him cause I see him as too big a risk factor. He's at best a rich man's Vladimir Radmanovic, I would even take Adam "The Geek" Morrison ahead of him.

Fri May 26, 2006 9:50 pm

i hadn't actually taken a long look at any of bargnani's games....but he looks like a real decent player...nice range...but still wouldnt take him #1

Sat May 27, 2006 12:14 am

After seeing those videos Jae posted, the guy really reminds me of Dirk. He needs to bulk up more, definitely, but that's not something he can't work on. What he has, though, is surprising speed (for his size), a quick and accurate release, and did I mention that he really reminds me of Dirk? He has potential, and he would be right up there when Bosh, Graham, and CV reach their primes. Not to mention, Ukic and a pass-first Calderon might really suit this run-and-gun team well. Like Mitchell said before, he wants his team to be based on the Phoenix style, and Colangelo is that.

Sat May 27, 2006 12:31 am

Stevesanity wrote:The euro or rather international success conversion is very poor of late and the Raptors aren't in need of taking up another bust. Im not saying LaMarcus or Tyrus will not be entitled to bust status but I'd see them making the transition way more easier whilst Bargnani can play(though doing that against the Raptors is no big deal specially in a preseason game) I think their safer with LaMarcus (Tyrus is too small, they need to get Bosh at PF) or trading that pick for a current star.

No real physical test has come on him either having played in Europe for two or three years, I think the Raptors should pass on him cause I see him as too big a risk factor. He's at best a rich man's Vladimir Radmanovic, I would even take Adam "The Geek" Morrison ahead of him.

Bargnani has a better skill repertoire than Radmanovic ever had and that comparison is quite bad. VR has a legit power forward body, yet he doesn't use it. Bargnani uses everything he has, the real question is - will he ever have more (body-wise)? I hope he'll have, because we need more Dirks in this League.

Sat May 27, 2006 12:42 am

VanK wrote:
Stevesanity wrote:The euro or rather international success conversion is very poor of late and the Raptors aren't in need of taking up another bust. Im not saying LaMarcus or Tyrus will not be entitled to bust status but I'd see them making the transition way more easier whilst Bargnani can play(though doing that against the Raptors is no big deal specially in a preseason game) I think their safer with LaMarcus (Tyrus is too small, they need to get Bosh at PF) or trading that pick for a current star.

No real physical test has come on him either having played in Europe for two or three years, I think the Raptors should pass on him cause I see him as too big a risk factor. He's at best a rich man's Vladimir Radmanovic, I would even take Adam "The Geek" Morrison ahead of him.

Bargnani has a better skill repertoire than Radmanovic ever had and that comparison is quite bad. VR has a legit power forward body, yet he doesn't use it. Bargnani uses everything he has, the real question is - will he ever have more (body-wise)? I hope he'll have, because we need more Dirks in this League.

I think hope is what hes running on mostly, I just dont see him succeeding. The only big men prospects to have success of late is Dirk and Pau and Dirk only learnt something about defense after Avery came and Pau is still a star, not a franchise player.

I dont think the Raptors need to flex at another possible euro bust, their best off with Aldridge or a trade. Thomas doesnt make real sense with Bosh on the team and Morrison isnt worth the first. The Raps need to get Bosh at the PF, Bargnani is no C whilst Aldridge is. The team also already has Villanueva as a SF/PF, sure the versatility can be a bonus but why draft someone that will be a bench player when they can get a future starter and at the same time help their franchise player move to his more comfortable position.

Sat May 27, 2006 1:00 am

The more I see of Aldridge, the less I like him. He shows very little passion/hear, he simply isn't the game changer Thomas already (and Bargnani is also close to that, all he lacks is muscles). His post skills are overrated, his frame isn't anything spectatular and he looks more of a Channing Frye type of player to me (albeit with a bit more psychical/natural talent). Is that what Raptors need? Is what Bosh say Toronto needs? Sure, he'd fit into a Suns type of run&gun offense, but Raptors already have that kind of player in Bosh and neither one of them show much potential to develop into a dangerous low post player. I could be underestimating Aldridge, but I just don't see it how he would fit in Toronto long term. Sure, neither does Bargnani or Thomas for that matter, so the Raptors would be better off trading down and picking O'Bryant (a legit C), Marcus Williams (PG) or Rudy Gary, who is certainly becoming very underrated.

Sat May 27, 2006 2:40 am

Sam. wrote:Image

Jersey looks familiar ?
Oh ye Tskitishvili is wearing a Benetton Treviso jersey ...
And whos on Benetton Treviso ?
Andrea Bargnani.

Image

Not saying Bargnani will turn into Tskitishvili but I rather not risk drafting him but if we do I wouldn't mind it I guess. Make sense ? Ye ...


Have you ever seen Andrea play?
Personally, I've seen him play in the Lissone tournament (Most important Junior Basketball Tournament in the country) in 2001/2002 I think, and he was a definetely a monster. He was a lot smaller than he is now, because he was very young and he didn't play in Serie A in 2001/2002 (after the tournament he's been signed by Stella Azzurra Roma, and in 2003 he's been signed by Treviso).
Recently I've seen Game 4 of Serie A playoffs between Benetton Trevison and Armani Jeans Milano (my team), at the Assago DatchForum and he played a really good game against people with much more experience than him...
I think he ended up with 15 points and something like 8 rebounds.
I don't think he's gonna turn into the new Tskitishvili.

Sat May 27, 2006 4:09 am

I dont think the Raptors need to flex at another possible euro bust, their best off with Aldridge or a trade. Thomas doesnt make real sense with Bosh on the team and Morrison isnt worth the first. The Raps need to get Bosh at the PF, Bargnani is no C whilst Aldridge is. The team also already has Villanueva as a SF/PF, sure the versatility can be a bonus but why draft someone that will be a bench player when they can get a future starter and at the same time help their franchise player move to his more comfortable position.


You keep referring to these Raptor draft icks who have been busts or euro busts, yet if you take a look at their draft history:
Villenueva/Graham/Ukic/Slokar
Araujo (will probably be a bust, but he's brazilian and played college ball)/Pape Sow (useful reserve)
Bosh(anything but a bust)
Jeffries(traded 2nd year in Rose/Marshall deal)/Bonner(low second round, but very useful reserve)
Bradley (was useful bench player until injury
Peterson (low 1st round, not a bust)
Bender (dealt for Davis)/Radejovic (was a bust, but was dealt for kevin Willis)
Jamison(dealt for Carter, not a bust)

So I don't know where the idea that the Raptors have a bad draft history came from. Everyone refers to Hoffa, but the list ends there. Any draftees that turned out badly were either packaged in deal to get better players or weren't high picks to begin with. How many other teams can boast picks like Chris Bosh, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, Damon Stoudemire, Marcus Camby and now Charlie V, yet we haven't had a top 3 pick in 10 years, and have never had a #1 pick.

Yet look at a team like Detroit. In past years, they have produced one good NBA player, Tayshaun Prince. They have two picks in 2003, and drafted such euro busts as Darko and Carlos Delfino in the best draft class ever, and could have drafted both Carmelo Anthony/Chris Bosh/Dwayne Wade eith their first pick, and could have had Leandro Barbosa/Josh Hoard/Zaza Pachulia with their second pick.

In 2001, they drafted Rodney White, and the year before, it was Mateen Cleeves.

Other than the Timberwolves, who didn't have picks most years, they have been the wrost drafting team in the league, yet they remain competitive because they pick on idiot GMs.

Now back to this year, one possibility mentioned is that Atlanta is in love with Bargnani, so trading down to 5, and picking up someone like Josh Childress or Tyronn Lue, and then they could still end up with Morrison (but I doubt Charlotte will pass on him), Marcus Williams, Rudy Gay, or Rodney Foye. If Colangelo truly believes that Bosh can take on the same role as Amare did, a so-called 'point-centre,' then that deal wouldn't bother me.

The option of Tyrus Thomas is not likely, as when Colangelo was asked about him, and how he would fit in the frontcourt, he stated that Thomas is more like 6'6 or 6'7, and during predraft workouts he thinks some teams will be scared to pick him if they're in need of a 4.

the two options I prefer are still to either draft Aldridge and develo him and Bosh toegther, and let one of them take over in the middle, or to draft Morrison and deal Charlie for Magloire and Mo Williams.

edit: oh, and the difference between skita and bargnani, as colangelo has mentioned, is that skita played about 60 minutes his years there, and bargnani played about 1600.

Sat May 27, 2006 7:48 am

fgrep15 wrote:
a little early to say Thomas is going to be Swift. especially when some draft boards say he has a better feel/intangibles for the game and is certainly not as dumb as rocks as Swift.

also Thomas may still get taller. in high school he was 6-6/190lbs, and is now listed at 6'9/219 and still has that big wingspan. can't wait for the draft measurements/drill scores

I didn't say he's Swift, I said a 6'9 who's kinda like Swift, which was in relation to body type. They're the same type of player except Stromile has been said to not have a very good work ethic, and doesn't always put enough effort, so obviously he doesn't have those things. When you talk body type (Swift is bigger even), athleticism etc, they're very similar.

yeh ok thanks for being more specific. but are you comparing Thomas to the player Swift has become or Swift perceived skills/body type when he entered the draft??

heading into the draft, nbadraft.net's scouting report of Swift was much more impressive the Thomasr:
NBA Comparison: Shawn Kemp

Strengths: Amazing atlhete. As a senior in HS dunked from the free throw line in a dunk contest. Very good moves around the basket. Has all the tools to become a top PF in the NBA. Good hands, soft touch. Good competitor. Look at the muscles on those arms!!!!------>

Weaknesses: Inexperience. Passing and defense can improve. Post moves can get much better. Needs to demand the ball and take over more then he does already.

Draft Outlook: Top 2 pick

man that was pretty damn complimentary...

Sat May 27, 2006 8:36 am

More of body type and a little skills. Swift isn't a true C, though he's kind of a PF with a bit of a C's game. I can't compare him to what Swift has become because Swift has the potential to be a lot better than he is. I'm comparing him to Swift coming into the NBA in terms of athleticism, but he's even smaller. Work ethic though, I can't say.

Thomas is too small (bulk wise) for the PF position already, he's smaller than Shawn Marion who is small at PF. The Raptors don't need a PF (their's plenty), and he's definately not an NBA C. Bosh also is not a C, he get's beat in the post enough one on one by any PF who can post up, and it's worse at C, so having him at PF and Bosh at C isn't going to work well either. Lastly in terms of the Swift comparison, I don't know if he's as good offensively as Swift was coming in either.

Sat May 27, 2006 7:39 pm

iKe7in wrote:
I dont think the Raptors need to flex at another possible euro bust, their best off with Aldridge or a trade. Thomas doesnt make real sense with Bosh on the team and Morrison isnt worth the first. The Raps need to get Bosh at the PF, Bargnani is no C whilst Aldridge is. The team also already has Villanueva as a SF/PF, sure the versatility can be a bonus but why draft someone that will be a bench player when they can get a future starter and at the same time help their franchise player move to his more comfortable position.


You keep referring to these Raptor draft icks who have been busts or euro busts, yet if you take a look at their draft history:
Villenueva/Graham/Ukic/Slokar
Araujo (will probably be a bust, but he's brazilian and played college ball)/Pape Sow (useful reserve)
Bosh(anything but a bust)
Jeffries(traded 2nd year in Rose/Marshall deal)/Bonner(low second round, but very useful reserve)
Bradley (was useful bench player until injury
Peterson (low 1st round, not a bust)
Bender (dealt for Davis)/Radejovic (was a bust, but was dealt for kevin Willis)
Jamison(dealt for Carter, not a bust)

So I don't know where the idea that the Raptors have a bad draft history came from. Everyone refers to Hoffa, but the list ends there. Any draftees that turned out badly were either packaged in deal to get better players or weren't high picks to begin with. How many other teams can boast picks like Chris Bosh, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, Damon Stoudemire, Marcus Camby and now Charlie V, yet we haven't had a top 3 pick in 10 years, and have never had a #1 pick.

I was not going out at the Raptors past picks, more as to what the Raptors need right now but since you brought it up Vince Carter was not drafted by the Raptors, he was drafted by the Warriors. Damon Stoudamire is pretty much a bust cause he's only had a few good years early on and turned into a headcase and is confused as to whether he's a PG or a SG. Camby's been injured for most of his career and though he's good when he's on the court he's not reached the potential he was slated with. Graham's not that impressive, Ukic has still to be tested and Slokar not really sure what he's about so I wont judge those two. Lets not get carried away about Charlie V, sure I like him too but he's still got ways to prove himself cause he can easily get an injury or have a few good seasons and be crap for the next 10 years of his career. Plus Chris Jeffries has disappeared off the face of the earth and isnt even in the league anymore.

The Raptors cannot depend on a untested euro guy to come good, its not as easy as it seems for european guys to adjust to life in North America and to get along with the people and the teammates. The team needs to function right and thats why even Aldridge can come into question cause of his disatisfying personality. I hope Bargnani does well, I have no issues or quarrels against european players but from a Raptors perspective it should be either Aldridge or a trade.

Sat May 27, 2006 8:48 pm

Mike James interview:
http://rapidshare.de/files/21452044/Mike_James_Interview.mp3.html

He may ba crazy, but his passion is unrivaled. I really like this guy as a person, but I wouldn't have him on my team for any price. And the "I really believe the bullshit that comes out of my mouth" quote is priceless :lol:.

Sun May 28, 2006 9:34 am

More good? news for you Raptor fans:

Colangelo is working his magic

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... asketball/

Gherardini close to front-office job
Top European general manager on verge of becoming Colangelo's right-hand man
MICHAEL GRANGE AND ROBERT MACLEOD

In a bold move to try to bolster the sliding fortunes of the Toronto Raptors, president and general manager Bryan Colangelo is taking the club where no National Basketball Association franchise has ventured.

Maurizio Gherardini, regarded as the top basketball mind outside the NBA, is poised to become Colangelo's right-hand man in Toronto.

He will be the first European to hold a senior basketball position with an NBA club.

According to two separate sources, Gherardini, the general manager of Benetton Treviso, Italy's top professional basketball club, has already agreed to join Colangelo's basketball front office in Toronto.

An official announcement could come as early as next week.

"It is a done deal," one Italian source with close ties to Gherardini said yesterday in an e-mail message.

"He's waiting [for] the end of the Italian season to make it official, but there's no doubt he's coming to Toronto."

Hired in 1992 as the general manager of Benetton, Gherardini has built the team into one of the model franchises in European basketball while continuing to forge strong ties with many teams in the NBA.

He is considered an innovator in European basketball. In recent years, for example, he developed and was the host of the Reebok Big Man camp and the Reebok Eurocamp, which brings the top young European prospects and a slew of NBA coaches together for instruction and networking.

"I could give you a whole song and dance about Maurizio, but in a nutshell, if you have him, you have Europe," said Roosevelt Bouie, a former Syracuse University star who played 12 years professionally in Italy and lived there for four more.

Colangelo, who speaks in glowing terms of Gherardini's basketball capabilities, wouldn't say yesterday that Gherardini is about to land in Toronto.

"Nothing to confirm on that," he said. "I would say he's a guy I would love to have in our organization and staff."

Colangelo is still in the process of putting together his basketball front office after being hired as Rob Babcock's replacement in February to try to repair the Raptors, who have missed the postseason for four consecutive years.

He described Gherardini as just the kind of basketball executive to help him with the Toronto rebuilding job.

"Maurizio is someone I would very much like to have come to our organization, but there's a process to go through first," Colangelo said, adding that there are European clubs interested in Gherardini's talents as well.

"We would like to have him, but there are some very deep pocketed clubs courting him as well," he said.

Gherardini almost jumped to the NBA in 2003 after the league agreed to grant a franchise to the Charlotte Bobcats. Gherardini was interviewed for the general manager's job, but eventually lost out to Bernie Bickerstaff.

A onetime banker who speaks fluent English after graduating from a suburban high school in St. Louis, Mo., in 1973 as a foreign exchange student, Gherardini said at the time he had no doubt his basketball skills would translate well into the NBA.

"I think the world basketball community is small, and getting smaller all the time," he told the Charlotte Observer. "Doing this would be much easier than 10 years ago or 20 years ago."

Gherardini is considered a shrewd evaluator of basketball talent, and this year's Benetton team includes Andrea Bargnani, the seven-footer whom the Raptors, who hold the No. 1 pick for the NBA draft next month, are taking a close look at.

Uros Slokar, a forward whom the Raptors chose in the second round in last year's draft, also plays on the team.

Sun May 28, 2006 11:39 am

Stevesanity wrote:I was not going out at the Raptors past picks, more as to what the Raptors need right now

But you made the point that the Raptors don't need another euro bust.
but since you brought it up Vince Carter was not drafted by the Raptors, he was drafted by the Warriors.

I know, I mentioned that already. But I mentioned that he was the result of that draft. It's not like he played a year in Golden State and then was traded for.
Damon Stoudamire is pretty much a bust cause he's only had a few good years early on and turned into a headcase and is confused as to whether he's a PG or a SG.

Take a look at the '95 draft and find 5 players drafted after Stoudemire who have had better careers. The only two that are close are Michael Finley and Theo Ratliff. And I think when you get to the point where you've started over 700 games and averaged 14+ points and 6.5 assists per game, you're not a bust, especially as a pick as low as 7 in a terrible draft class.
Camby's been injured for most of his career and though he's good when he's on the court he's not reached the potential he was slated with.

While he has missed an aveage of about 20 games a season, he had two good seasons in Toronto and then said he wanted out, and was traded for Charles Oakley, who was a big part of the Raptors two playoff runs. Sure it would have been fun to see what would have happened if they had drafted Jermaine O'Neal instead, but as a second year team, they couldn't afford to wait 5 years before Jermaine learned to not suck.
Graham's not that impressive,

Based on what? Because he didn't score 20 a game? When given the chance he impressed with his perimeter defense and contributed pretty well on offense.
Ukic has still to be tested

Well, yeah. Assuming he comes oevr at all, but he has a big upside, which is more than you can say for most second round picks.
and Slokar not really sure what he's about so I wont judge those two.

Slokar probably won't be anything more than an 11th or 12th man, but he also has upside and is being given the chance to develpo his game in Europe.
Lets not get carried away about Charlie V, sure I like him too but he's still got ways to prove himself cause he can easily get an injury or have a few good seasons and be crap for the next 10 years of his career.

So could Dwayne Wade or LeBron James. Judging by Villenueva's first season, he put up better numbers than guys like Bogut and everyone else drafted after him. He has the size, quickness and outside game to play 3 positions, and showed he and Bosh can play together. Of course injuries can ruin any career, but based on his first season, he has shown that he is a legit talent and has the upside to be a 17-20/8-10 guy in the league.
Plus Chris Jeffries has disappeared off the face of the earth and isnt even in the league anymore.

Yeah, and that's Chicago's problem, not Toronto's. And since you wanted to be accurate about Carter, then you should judge the Raptors on Kareem Rush.
The Raptors cannot depend on a untested euro guy to come good, its not as easy as it seems for european guys to adjust to life in North America and to get along with the people and the teammates.

well as many european players have stated, Toronto seems a lot more like a European city than an American one. And would it really be hard when his boss comes with him?
The team needs to function right

What do you mean 'function' right? They are building their team aroung Bosh, not whoever they draft, and there is no single correct way for a team to function.
and thats why even Aldridge can come into question cause of his disatisfying personality. I hope Bargnani does well, I have no issues or quarrels against european players but from a Raptors perspective it should be either Aldridge or a trade.

But you just said that Aldidge has a personality problem. Would he help them 'function?'

Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:54 am

Raptors to sign Jorge Garbajosa?

Raptors high on Spaniard
May 31, 2006. 12:15 AM
DOUG SMITH
SPORTS REPORTER


Jorge Garbajosa is certainly not a saviour for the Raptors but he could be a piece of their building process and there's a chance the gritty, 6-foot-9 forward from Spain could be in Toronto next season.

According to the Spanish sports publication Marca, the Raptors have made overtures about signing the free agent forward. NBA officials who have seen the 28-year-old play make it sound like he'd be a great fit.

Garbajosa, who played for current Phoenix Suns coach Mike D'Antoni in Italy and was a teammate of current Raptor point guard Jose Calderon with the Spanish national team, is a free agent with a buyout clause in his European contract and could be signed by the Raptors in mid-July.

Garbajosa is said to be a tough inside presence despite his height and could also be able to stretch defences with three-point shooting ability. He's not a true NBA centre — more along the lines of the undersized Kurt Thomas of the Phoenix Suns — but he could do some of the dirty work under the basket to take some of the pressure off the likes of Chris Bosh and Charlie Villanueva.

At his age, Garbajosa is running out of time to see if he can thrive in the NBA and that's another reason he'd be amenable to overtures from the Raptors, who have money under the league's salary cap to pay him and a roster spot he could fill.

While he played with Benetton Treviso under D'Antoni, the general manager of that team was Maurizio Gherardini, who is soon to join the Raptors as the assistant general manager to Bryan Colangelo. Gherardini's hiring is on hold only because Benetton is still involved in the Italian league playoffs.


http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Conten ... 9027012079

I don't know too much about the guy, but it looks like Colangelo's looking to build a Phoenix type team in Toronto. If we really do sign Garbajosa, I hope he's the type of guy who can take some pressure off Chris Bosh and play good low post defense so the opposing center won't constantly keep looking like the next Shaquille O'Neal.

Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:31 am

Was just about to post that. Anyway, I've never seen any European games before, so I can't really make a judgement on him.

He does seem like he'll add some grit in the frontcourt, but he's ANOTHER power foward, and I don't think Toronto'll need that.

Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:57 am

Its_asdf wrote:Was just about to post that. Anyway, I've never seen any European games before, so I can't really make a judgement on him.

He does seem like he'll add some grit in the frontcourt, but he's ANOTHER power foward, and I don't think Toronto'll need that.


That's what I was saying.
We don't need anymore PFs.

Here's another one bout him.

Garbajosa, closely together of Toronto Raptors
Schell and Duke/Madrid the Raptors have insisted on joining in Toronto to Jose Manuel Calderón and Jorge Garbajosa. Pívot of the Unicaja is the one of the priorities of the Canadian tax exemption next season and they have already made him arrive a succulent supply from 12 million dollars by next the three seasons. According to he announced Radio Mark, the positions are very near and the player has many appearances to become the third Spanish in the best League of the world the next year.

The operation two own names enter game: Bryan Colangelo and Mauricio Gherardini. First, president and manager general of the club, are one of the leaders of tax exemptions of NBA with more knowledge of the European basketball. The second saturated few dates ago in Toronto in condition of assistant when general manager. The Italian was the person in charge of the draftee of Garbajosa by the Benetton and the relation between both is excellent.

The interest of the Raptors by pívot international is not the unique one of an equipment NBA by players of the Spanish selection. Navarrese, Rudy Fernandez, Sergio Rodriguez and Fran Vázquez could accompany shortly to Gasol and Calderón in the best League of the world. Then, Spain would be a selection of NBA.

[size=9]Three year deal worth 12 Million Dollars ?!
Nahh ..
Last edited by BOSS on Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:39 am, edited 1 time in total.

Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:28 am

Schell and Duke/Madrid the Raptors have insisted on joining in Toronto to Jose Manuel Calderón and Jorge Garbajosa. Pívot of the Unicaja is the one of the priorities of the Canadian tax exemption next season and they have already made him arrive a succulent supply from 12 million dollars by next the three seasons. According to he announced Radio Mark, the positions are very near and the player has many appearances to become the third Spanish in the best League of the world the next year.

The operation two own names enter game: Bryan Colangelo and Mauricio Gherardini. First, president and manager general of the club, are one of the leaders of tax exemptions of NBA with more knowledge of the European basketball. The second saturated few dates ago in Toronto in condition of assistant when general manager. The Italian was the person in charge of the draftee of Garbajosa by the Benetton and the relation between both is excellent.

The interest of the Raptors by pívot international is not the unique one of an equipment NBA by players of the Spanish selection. Navarrese, Rudy Fernandez, Sergio Rodriguez and Fran Vázquez could accompany shortly to Gasol and Calderón in the best League of the world. Then, Spain would be a selection of NBA.


Maybe it's just me, but I couldn't understand anything that was written here.

Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:41 am

cyanide wrote:
Schell and Duke/Madrid the Raptors have insisted on joining in Toronto to Jose Manuel Calderón and Jorge Garbajosa. Pívot of the Unicaja is the one of the priorities of the Canadian tax exemption next season and they have already made him arrive a succulent supply from 12 million dollars by next the three seasons. According to he announced Radio Mark, the positions are very near and the player has many appearances to become the third Spanish in the best League of the world the next year.

The operation two own names enter game: Bryan Colangelo and Mauricio Gherardini. First, president and manager general of the club, are one of the leaders of tax exemptions of NBA with more knowledge of the European basketball. The second saturated few dates ago in Toronto in condition of assistant when general manager. The Italian was the person in charge of the draftee of Garbajosa by the Benetton and the relation between both is excellent.

The interest of the Raptors by pívot international is not the unique one of an equipment NBA by players of the Spanish selection. Navarrese, Rudy Fernandez, Sergio Rodriguez and Fran Vázquez could accompany shortly to Gasol and Calderón in the best League of the world. Then, Spain would be a selection of NBA.


Maybe it's just me, but I couldn't understand anything that was written here.


It's not you bro. Haha.
I had to translate it cause it was originally in Spanish.

Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:45 am

I'm all for this signing. Now we REALLY need to get rid of EWill, Arujo, and Alvin

Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:52 am

We need a PG and a C. A PG and a C. I think I trust Colangelo, but if he doesn't do a good job, Raptor fans are going to be very upset.
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