Sporting News Radio: KG DEMANDS TRADE

[Jugs]

Garnett won't go to New Jersey unless one of their big 3 is traded.

[Fitzy]

yeah thats the problem they wont want to give any of them up
or maybe they would trade their whole bench

[Laker Socks]

It would take 2 of their big 3 to get Garnett.

[Fitzy]

Kidd could almost go, it seems he always looks for a trade in the off season

[Riot]

Kidd could almost go, it seems he always looks for a trade in the off season

But that would be extremely pointless because both Garnett and Kidd want to play together. And Garnett doesn't like New York and the the Nets will be moving to Brooklyn, so that is out of the question, too.

Garnett likes smaller markets because he likes doing all the behind the scene charity events without getting any attention. He just loves it here. Last night on ESPN's Sunday Night Baseball (Twins/White Sox) they showed Kevin Garnett sitting at the Metrodome watching the game. It was great and I don't expect Garnett to ever leave Minnesota.

He wants to be the next Kirby Puckett to Minnesota sport fans and he can't do that if he doesn't win a ring here. He has spent 11 seasons, 11 years, of his life here in Minnesota with us fans. We have been through everything together from the Marbury betrayl, Sealy's death, the Joe Smith scandel and the first round exits. If he goes on and wins a title with another team it wouldn't be the same for him. He wants to hold that trophy up in Target Center, which he calls the Garnett Center, in front of Minnesota fans.

[Fenix]

Yes, you're absolutly right. He doesn't want to play in a big market city and get all that money from advertisements. He'd rather be on a small market team and do charity. He hates NY, he said it many times. [/sarcasm]

What are you talking about? He never said he 'hates NY', the only time he mentioned was when he said that he'd rather have Marbury in Minnesotta than himself in NY (and that was pure BS).

[Riot]

No, Garnett has said quite a few times that "New York isn't me" and he "doesn't want to go to the Big Apple."

Garnett is making plenty of money, do you really think that matters to him? He took a paycut to stay in Minnesota.

[Fenix]

But you said he 'hates' NY. That's a strong word I don't think you had any basis to come to that conclusion. Also, he took a paycut so the team could afford to get/keep other players and I also believe that he still got more money than he could get as a FA. So basically, yes, it is about money.

[air gordon]

lol paycut? i believe he's still making OVER the maximum salary designated in the latest CBA

also you didn't try to refute the idea of him being in a better situation in Chicago then in Minny

anywho... the playoffs aren't even halfway over, mr Riot. this is just the start of the "KG wants to be traded" rumors. hope you'll have enough energy to continue your crusade when the rumor mill really heats up

[Riot]

Garnett took about $40 million less than the maximum extension.

[air gordon]

no kidding. you got the figures? and who was offering more then Minny??

[maes]

Well to break it up:

KG to Chicago:
Would be nice but I don't think the Bulls can free enough salary space. A trade Chandler + Deng would not succeed as the salarys don't match at all. Also I think the Wolves may insist on involving Gordon or Hinrich in the trade.

Chicago is committed to only $18M in salaries for next season, the cap for next season will be greater than 05/06's $49.5M.

With Chicago's massive cap space, collection of high draft picks, and desirable young players expect Chicago to either land KG (unlikely IMHO) or broker a deal for KG to a contender (more likey)...IF KG is interested in moving in the first place.

[Riot]

no kidding. you got the figures? and who was offering more then Minny??

No, because of Garnett's huge past contract he could go over the new CBA's "maximum contract extension" limits because there is some rule that you can start 120% higher than the last year of your past contract. The Timberwolves would have given Garnett every penny that they could but he took $40 million less than he could get from the Wolves. Nobody offered him a contract because he never became a free agent because he loves it here. He signed that extension a few months after the team got knocked out of the first round for the 7th time.

As much as it pains the media, Garnett isn't going anywhere.

[Silas]

I'm betting that the 1st thing that will happen is that:

Minny trades for stephon marbury while keeping KG

Chicago drives up Ben Wallaces asking price but ultimatley he still signs with Detroit

Chicago Signs Al Harrington

These seem like the most likely options just because the idea of KG leaving minny (while a neat idea) doesnt seem likely. If they dont make a blockbuster trade though, he'll likely get traded before the trade deadline next season, but i think they'll make some sort of big move to keep him happy.

[Riot]

The word here is Iverson coming to Minnesota to team with Garnett. Check out the new thread I just posted.

[Juve404]

Earlier in the year KG stated that if the Timberwolves didn't make some major offseason moves to put themselves in a position to win a championship, then he would demand a trade. I heard this on ESPN weeks ago. He said that he deserved a chance to win a championship since he has stayed with Minnesota for so long. He said if he doesn't get the chance, he will demand a trade.

[twolvesguy]

Earlier in the year KG stated that if the Timberwolves didn't make some major offseason moves to put themselves in a position to win a championship, then he would demand a trade. I heard this on ESPN weeks ago. He said that he deserved a chance to win a championship since he has stayed with Minnesota for so long. He said if he doesn't get the chance, he will demand a trade.

No. what he said was he doesn't want to go through another rebuilding process. He never said once that he will ask to be traded. But Riot, KG and AI would be sick, but I don't know what position the sixers are in in terms of whether or not they are actually trying to trade AI or if its just like the KG situation. Garnett isn't going anywhere. I will promise everyone. Noone in the Wolves orginization is looking to trade KG as well as KG himself. I just don't understand how people think he wants to be traded. It confuses me at times.

[Riot]

Earlier in the year KG stated that if the Timberwolves didn't make some major offseason moves to put themselves in a position to win a championship, then he would demand a trade. I heard this on ESPN weeks ago. He said that he deserved a chance to win a championship since he has stayed with Minnesota for so long. He said if he doesn't get the chance, he will demand a trade.

Actually, here are some actual quotes of what he said:

"I think I'm more deserving of a better team. I think the city's more deserving of a better team, having something that's going to be competitive and get back to the Western Conference finals."

"But I do know that you can't blink and it's going to happen. You actually have to spend the time and effort. So we'll see."

"I don't know any fans that like to come and watch a team lose," he said. "I'm a basketball fan. ... Some of this has to be addressed. But I have faith in Glen that he'll do the right thing."

But this year Garnett said this, too...

"I'm Minnesota," the Wolves' All-Star forward said. "The Target Center ... that's the Garnett Center!"

"I'll never forget being in the Target Center by myself one day, looking up, saying to myself, 'One day I want to own this city. I want to be a player these people are proud of,' " Garnett said.

"Kevin McHale is great for me, man. It's just some of the summer things I had dislikes with, but me and Kevin McHale, we have a great open relationship," Garnett said. "We communicate. If I don't like something, he knows it. If he don't like something, he definitely lets me know it."

"I'm not in anything for a short commitment. That's not me. That's not my makeup. I feel like if you're going to commit yourself, commit yourself wholeheartedly 1000%. Just because I'm going through a difficult time right now with the transition, that's not my makeup, that's not my speed. I'm not the type of person to give up just because something gets rough. That's a coward. That's not me."

He is frustrated and he doesn't want to lose but he also said that he is going to stay here to make it work. Glen Taylor and Kevin McHale have already said that Garnett will have plenty of imput on next season's roster and that they will spend money to get talent. Garnett said that this team would be better if they could have a training camp together.

He thinks the city deserves a better team than this and he is right. I don't blame him for speaking up. When Garnett speaks everyone listens and maybe that will be the difference this summer. It seems like the team is even more active in trade talks and draft scouting than ever before. For what seems like the first time, McHale is in Europe scouting foreign players for the draft. Taylor is talking about trades for high salary guys like Marbury and Iverson and the team plans on spending every penny they can to help Garnett.

[air gordon]

no kidding. you got the figures? and who was offering more then Minny??

No, because of Garnett's huge past contract he could go over the new CBA's "maximum contract extension" limits because there is some rule that you can start 120% higher than the last year of your past contract. The Timberwolves would have given Garnett every penny that they could but he took $40 million less than he could get from the Wolves. Nobody offered him a contract because he never became a free agent because he loves it here. He signed that extension a few months after the team got knocked out of the first round for the 7th time.

As much as it pains the media, Garnett isn't going anywhere.

thanks for the refresher. but i'm wondering- how could he NOT have become a free agent? regardless of how a player feels about a franchise- when his contract expires, he becomes a free agent

was he given that new extension in the middle of his old contract (like A. Stoudemire this past year?)

but yeh...
i think that the T'Wolves managment would have ben absolute idiots if they were to infact offer him 120% more of that ridiculous first contract extension they gave him in the 1st place.

and IMO everything is not all good between Taylor, McHale, and KG. that quote you have where KG is saying good things about Mchale, i believe that was damage control after he voiced his displeasure with certain things publicly. just look at the announcement of giving KG "input" on roster moves. that seems pretty unprecedented and a slap on the face of McHale's.

does any other player in the league or in the past few years been given that designation??? i can't remember anything remotely close to this other then Bill Russell being player/coach.

[Riot]

Garnett signed that extension the summer before his final year in the deal. So yes, he has never been a free agent before.

I think Garnett is frustrated with McHale but they talk a lot and Garnett has a ton of respect for McHale. McHale really took Garnett under his wing and made him the player that he is today.

[Stevesanity]

I dont see KG being traded this off season, if the T-Wolves suck next season which is expected maybe then, just maybe we'd see a deadline deal for KG or something in the off season. It's seems as if Kg's pretty happy supporting Oprah and being the quiet guy in the NBA, he might consider moving on when his contract expires whenever that is but again I expect him to get the maximum and stay in 'Sota and then for his last season he'll join a championship calibre team hoping to make a title run late in his career and not succeed and become another Malone story. He just seems to be doomed for failure when it comes to team success.

[air gordon]

lol thats what i figured, riot. you should have just said he got an extension rather say becauses he "loves" it there, he wasn't a free agent. love doesn't pay the bills lol

yeh- who cares that Mchale shaped KG? we're talking about a player having a say on roster moves! Garnett has so much respect for McHale that the owner is taking away some of Mchale's power and giving it to Garnett. LOL. if he truly had this respect for McHale you speak of, he'd let McHale do his job. simple as that

nice spin there, Riot

[Riot]

lol thats what i figured, riot. you should have just said he got an extension rather say becauses he "loves" it there, he wasn't a free agent. love doesn't pay the bills lol

yeh- who cares that Mchale shaped KG? we're talking about a player having a say on roster moves! Garnett has so much respect for McHale that the owner is taking away some of Mchale's power and giving it to Garnett. LOL. if he truly had this respect for McHale you speak of, he'd let McHale do his job. simple as that

nice spin there, Riot

The Wolves hadn't gotten out of the first round for 7 years and he was going to be a free agent at the end of the year. Instead of surveying his options he signed the extensions because he loved it here and he wanted to make it work here. He has the same mentality now. Even though you guys want Garnett to leave he just won't. He isn't the kind of guy who likes change.

Garnett recently (end of season) said he wants McHale back next season. To me, that is a vote of confidence. When Garnett called out McHale it was because of how he handled the Flip Saunders situation. In a way, that was more of a shot at Glen Taylor than anything else.

Garnett spoke out against McHale and Taylor for a few things that they have done wrong. With that said, he has always backed them up and he talks to them a lot. They have a very open relationship where they can talk about things that make each other uneasy. It is no secret that Garnett is frustrated with the last two seasons but don't mistake that with a demand to be traded. He is demanding a better product and McHale and Taylor promised they will deliver. Garnett has faith that they will.

[air gordon]

lol thats what i figured, riot. you should have just said he got an extension rather say becauses he "loves" it there, he wasn't a free agent. love doesn't pay the bills lol

yeh- who cares that Mchale shaped KG? we're talking about a player having a say on roster moves! Garnett has so much respect for McHale that the owner is taking away some of Mchale's power and giving it to Garnett. LOL. if he truly had this respect for McHale you speak of, he'd let McHale do his job. simple as that

nice spin there, Riot

The Wolves hadn't gotten out of the first round for 7 years and he was going to be a free agent at the end of the year. Instead of surveying his options he signed the extensions because he loved it here and he wanted to make it work here. He has the same mentality now. Even though you guys want Garnett to leave he just won't. He isn't the kind of guy who likes change.

Garnett recently (end of season) said he wants McHale back next season. To me, that is a vote of confidence. When Garnett called out McHale it was because of how he handled the Flip Saunders situation. In a way, that was more of a shot at Glen Taylor than anything else.

Garnett spoke out against McHale and Taylor for a few things that they have done wrong. With that said, he has always backed them up and he talks to them a lot. They have a very open relationship where they can talk about things that make each other uneasy. It is no secret that Garnett is frustrated with the last two seasons but don't mistake that with a demand to be traded. He is demanding a better product and McHale and Taylor promised they will deliver. Garnett has faith that they will.

lol i've never said that Garnett wants to leave/get traded. i've just given my opinions on deals that were come up by other posters/beat writers. i guess that means i'm starting rumors too

giving Garnett input powers is not a vote of confidence by both the owner and Garnett. no other player has been given this right and you still haven't responded to it. but whatever. denial is a very powerful tool

[Laker Socks]

Kobe has input powers. So did Shaq back when he was a laker.