Lakers Thread

[Bruce]

The eagerness of teams to make the next great draft steal has cost some teams dearly. For instance, Tskitishvilli was drafted 5th and Bragnani 1st, because they were supposedly the next Dirk. A lot of the scouting reports I see use active and former players as comparisons of how a draft prospect will perform. Right now I see a lot of comparison for Porzingis with Nowitzki as a best case and his latvian compatriot Beidrins as a worst case. Well at least Porzingis shoots better than Biedrins. And Biedrins was picked 11th in 2004 by the GSW.

[Bruce]

If it's the Clippers, I'd definitely approve but with Kobe, why would the Lakers want Wade? One beat up old guy isn't enuf?

Seems like Wade will troll lots of teams this off season. I hope one of them snatches him.

I think its a good strategy on both the part of LA and Wade. Wade gets to jack up his price. Since taking a pay cut to team up with Bosh and LBJ, LBJ has moved on to a bigger paycheck in CLE and Bosh get re-signed with a max deal. Leaving Wade, the career Miami Heat player being offered a reported paltry 12M/yr by the Heat for his years of service. LA on the other hand helps Wade jack up his price, cripples the Heat's future cap flexibility, leaving LA with more players to pick in free agency in the future. If the Lakers is serious about signing Wade after signing Nash and Dwightmare, it might be a sign to jump ship.

[Sauru]

there is never a time a fan should jump ship

[[Q]]

I echo those sentiments Q, Davis is a hard worker and he's a presence in the middle on the defensive end. I really hope they can work something out with him and still have enough money left over for a semi-decent 3&D wing. My pick for that would ideally be Tobias Harris due to his experience in the league and his young age over Carroll.

Rumors are that Ed wants 7-10 million. 10 might be too much but i think a team is dumb enough to give him 7. I think if he played big minutes last year, he would have played himself into a 7 million dollar deal, but the Lakers were holding him back so his numbers wouldn't look as good

As of right now, I think he's worth midlevel

[Jackal]

Why jump ship or even consider it when they're working towards a good future? I know Laker fans have high expectations but some patience isn't a bad thing. Kupchak has done some good work that hasn't worked out but can't say the guy hasn't tried. Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Steve Nash and some decent drafting/signing of lesser star-type players.

I don't get why Wade would want to go to LA, too much ball domination and they both do the same thing, the other LA team makes more sense for Wade if he really wants to go to LA.

I've read he wants around 6-8 for a two or more deal or 9-10 for a one year deal. I don't think he'll be back if they draft a big. They'll probably rotate Big/Black/Randle/Kelly/Sacre at the 5/4 for that price. I really, really hope they get a decent wing player though, they need some athleticism on the wing to cover up for Bryants nonexistent defense at this stage of his career and as badly as I wanted Johnson to finally break out, it's just not gonna happen. He doesn't have the basketball IQ to be a serviceable starter. I miss a guy like Ariza and even crazy ass World Peace.

Scott Skiles talk some smack about Tobias Harris so he wants to go play elsewhere. You've got Gordon/Harkless to work with.

[Sauru]

Kupchak has done some good work that hasn't worked out but can't say the guy hasn't tried. Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Steve Nash and some decent drafting/signing of lesser star-type players.

i really hate how everyone bashes the lakers because of the nash/howard deals. all you heard that year was how awesome the lakers were going to be then when it didnt work out suddenly everyone knew it was a horrible idea to start with.

laker fans just got too used to winning so they dont have the patience for rebuilding. well the vocal ones anyway

[Patr1ck]

I don't see either L.A.team would to sign Wade considering the Clippers cap space the Lakers rebuilding.

[Bruce]

Kupchak has done some good work that hasn't worked out but can't say the guy hasn't tried. Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Steve Nash and some decent drafting/signing of lesser star-type players.

i really hate how everyone bashes the lakers because of the nash/howard deals. all you heard that year was how awesome the lakers were going to be then when it didnt work out suddenly everyone knew it was a horrible idea to start with.

laker fans just got too used to winning so they dont have the patience for rebuilding. well the vocal ones anyway

Yes, indeed us Lakers fans are spoiled rotten. But, I would have to say that current management, the buss children needs to own up to that very bad Nash trade. The Dwight trade, I can forgive. The Nash trade in tandem with the Dwight trade made it a certifiable disaster. I cringed when I first heard of the Nash trade, not because Nash wasn't any good anymore, but because everybody knows that Nash was at best passable as a defender, pair this with Kobe's loose defense guaranteed that every team that had a good to elite PG would play well against the Lakers.

I don't see either L.A.team would to sign Wade considering the Clippers cap space the Lakers rebuilding.

Indeed, it would seem like yet another costly experiment.

over Carroll.

Rumors are that Ed wants 7-10 million. 10 might be too much but i think a team is dumb enough to give him 7. I think if he played big minutes last year, he would have played himself into a 7 million dollar deal, but the Lakers were holding him back so his numbers wouldn't look as good

As of right now, I think he's worth midlevel

Agreed, No way Ed Davis is worth a dollar over MLE, maybe even just half of the MLE. Playing good on a struggling team does not mean you should get paid. Anyone still remembers earl clark?

[Sauru]

Kupchak has done some good work that hasn't worked out but can't say the guy hasn't tried. Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Steve Nash and some decent drafting/signing of lesser star-type players.

i really hate how everyone bashes the lakers because of the nash/howard deals. all you heard that year was how awesome the lakers were going to be then when it didnt work out suddenly everyone knew it was a horrible idea to start with.

laker fans just got too used to winning so they dont have the patience for rebuilding. well the vocal ones anyway

Yes, indeed us Lakers fans are spoiled rotten. But, I would have to say that current management, the buss children needs to own up to that very bad Nash trade. The Dwight trade, I can forgive. The Nash trade in tandem with the Dwight trade made it a certifiable disaster. I cringed when I first heard of the Nash trade, not because Nash wasn't any good anymore, but because everybody knows that Nash was at best passable as a defender, pair this with Kobe's loose defense guaranteed that every team that had a good to elite PG would play well against the Lakers.

i agree that nash was not a good fit i was just commenting on how all you heard was how the lakers were gonna wreck the league and then when it failed people acted like they knew all along.

[Kevin]

They do look good on paper, though.

[NovU]

i agree that nash was not a good fit i was just commenting on how all you heard was how the lakers were gonna wreck the league and then when it failed people acted like they knew all along.

All I remember is how much I hated that season. The Lakers were miserable until referees started awarding Kobe with calls after calls while playoffs berth rivals were getting shit after shit. They literally came back from coma to a life in the playoffs. Jump shooting Kobe suddenly doubled his freethrow attempts literally in the middle of the season. Then Lakers fans were lauding they are going to be dangerous in the playoffs, watch out, ofc that was until Kobe's achilles gave up on him.

Nash later indicated that it's tough playing with Kobe and he wanted to be more involved in offense. People think he was shit but I think it was because ball was taken out of his hands too much, he had no chance to get into a rhythm whatsoever. Everyone was always afraid to point their fingers at Kobe but I don't give a shit, his selfishness was destructive and eradicated any chance at playing as a cohesive unit. Screw everyone that was busy doing character assassination on D'Antoni, Dwight, and Nash. I will lay it out here that their incompetence was largely product of Kobe's selfishness.

[air gordon]

I think he'll get more than MLE. It won't be a bad contract once the TV contract goes in effect

[Bruce]

i agree that nash was not a good fit i was just commenting on how all you heard was how the lakers were gonna wreck the league and then when it failed people acted like they knew all along.

C'mon Sauru, you've been around long enough to know Dwight and Nash would have been creamed if they played in the 80s. With personnel like Dwight and Nash, "wrecking the the leauge" is not the term I'd use. tipsy toeing around opponents seem more like it. I've always been critical of Nash and the `stache. Never been a fan of the two

I think he'll get more than MLE. It won't be a bad contract once the TV contract goes in effect

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Right now, there are no indications that it will be in LA though. Ed Davis played good last season, but not good enough to be overpaid.

[Andrew]

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"Terrified". Seriously.

[Bruce]

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"Terrified". Seriously.

Dammit those god dammed overly spoiled laker fans. LOL

[Kevin]

We're not even halfway in rebuilding yet and they're over-hyping us? As much as I would like for Kobe to win another ring, we all know it's not going to happen anytime soon.

[Andrew]

Then again, there's at least cause for optimism: The Lakers Have Emerged As Legitimate Contenders For LaMarcus Aldridge

The silly season is officially here. Barely an hour after a report surfaced that the Los Angeles Lakers have exchanged a trade proposal with the Sacramento Kings for DeMarcus Cousins comes word that the league’s glamour franchise could possibly add another All-Star big man to the fold, too.

According to ESPN’s Marc Stein, Los Angeles has emerged as a possible destination for LaMarcus Aldridge should he opt to spurn the Portland Trail Blazers in free agency.

[NovU]

I'm surprised it's actually not the Knicks that's doing more shopping with their 4th pick.

[Andrew]

With two standout prospects, number four doesn't give them as much leverage.

[[Q]]

Then again, there's at least cause for optimism: The Lakers Have Emerged As Legitimate Contenders For LaMarcus Aldridge

The silly season is officially here. Barely an hour after a report surfaced that the Los Angeles Lakers have exchanged a trade proposal with the Sacramento Kings for DeMarcus Cousins comes word that the league’s glamour franchise could possibly add another All-Star big man to the fold, too.

According to ESPN’s Marc Stein, Los Angeles has emerged as a possible destination for LaMarcus Aldridge should he opt to spurn the Portland Trail Blazers in free agency.

trading Randle and Okafor/Towns for Cousins makes absolutely no sense unless they get Aldridge.

[Jackal]

God damn this is gonna be a long day/night for me. Can't wait for this to be over, I can't handle this anymore.

[Kevin]

So excited for tomorrow.

[mp3]

God damn this is gonna be a long day/night for me. Can't wait for this to be over, I can't handle this anymore.

I am getting a lot of help this week from my friend Jack... Jack Daniels...

[Kevin]

I am getting a lot of help this week from my friend Jack... Jack Daniels...

Every Knicks fan tonight

[Jackal]

Well shit, did not see them picking Russell over Okafor. I really hope this works out in LA's favor.