Chicago Bulls Thread

[erudain]

Where is my Ned Stark meme?
Brace yourselves…this is going to be a long season.

- Still SMH after Deng missed that layup, but after re-watching it, the ball was still jumping on his hand, he never got to handle it properly and he might got fouled at the start of the play.
- After a good start Magic adjusted....they were covering Teague early and then they started to back away from him like 3 feet, daring him to shoot. DJ did a hell of a job but seemed tired at the end after those 37minutes played. So once Kirk gets back lets all send a nice goodbye card to Teague.
- Boozer can't hit lake Michigan while swimming in it.
- Thanks god Orlando also sucks...this kind of game later this week in OKC and HOU and we’d be 25 down already.
- Outhustled also, if we don’t get rebounds we can't do squat…and also all those coast to coast fast breaks…come on…
- Too bad about Dunleavy shot...gotta save those lucky one for when they count >_<

Well now OKC and HOU, this will be ugly

[NovU]

Seems like Deng is going to be constantly under trade rumors now. There was a some rumor(no real leg), that involves Pau Gasol and Deng/Boozer. I think it works for both sides. Kobe likes Deng, and Boozer is still serviceable and they aren't getting anywhere with Kobe's 50 mil contract, might as well become mediocre. For the Bulls, they cut cost, and can sign Gasol probably cheaply and maintain level of niceness in frontcourt as Rose wants to compete when he comes back.

[erudain]

There's been rumor this couple days the Suns wants to get rid of one of their picks, probably the 1st rounder they got from the Pacers

If front office says "to hell with this, lets get in the lottery and get what we can for Deng"....they could try a Deng for Okafor and a pick....Suns get a veteran that could re-sign to lead their young core, Bulls would get a expiring contract in Okafor and a late 1st round pick.

[_Steve_]

Is Okafor even available now? He was traded very late by the Suns.

[erudain]

He became available for trades last weekend...Dec 15th

[koberulz]

Rose No Longer Humble, Hometown Kid

It takes some nerve to call out his employers after they have paid him 30% of their salary cap to miss consecutive seasons.

This is typical behavior from a player who has always done only what is in his personal best interest, everybody else be damned. He’ll take every last dollar, and enjoy all the team-supplied resources for medical consultations, surgeries, rehabilitation programs and various therapists, only to ignore their professional opinions just because he feels like it. And don’t bother asking him for even token assistance in welcoming potential free agents either, because he doesn’t want to.

[Andrew]

Well...he certainly didn't mince words there.

[_Steve_]

I think he's just really truly frustrated and bitter right now. With so many bad teams in the East, the Bulls could have gone far in the playoffs. At that time Rose would have probably looked more like himself before he tore his ACL.
And what does he face now? Another wasted season and a team that's already got worse compared to last season...

[NovU]

Typical disgusting media wankfest.

This writer takes personal shots directly at Rose and his close, all based on what source? QUOTE: [According to a story in the New York Daily News], so this writer guy goes on to make even more stories out of "STORY". I'm yet to hear what words were exactly exchanged between which parties.

I mean read this again.

“Rose has told several confidantes that he is worried that the Bulls will start to let the team hit the skids by allowing key players to leave via free agency, forcing him to go through a rebuilding program he wants no part of.
‘Derrick is worried that the Bulls are going to lose what they have,’ said a league source. ‘He doesn’t want to go through rebuilding.’”

Are you kidding me? This should be a non news. It could be anyone that said anything. Why does this even have to be a headline news all over the internet for so long?

I am having a simple chat with Jao and tell him "Kobe missed 2 easy shots"
Andrew hears this and tell benji that I said "Kobe wasn't good"
benji then says to grin "Kobe sucks"
Now grin goes to tell everyone that I'm a stupid Kobe hater as if it's a big deal that entire world has to know anyway.

k, end of rant. Everyone can go back to hating Rose now as he's lost all humbleness.

[Valor]

“Rose has told several confidantes that he is worried that the Bulls will start to let the team hit the skids by allowing key players to leave via free agency, forcing him to go through a rebuilding program he wants no part of.
‘Derrick is worried that the Bulls are going to lose what they have,’ said a league source. ‘He doesn’t want to go through rebuilding.’”

Are you kidding me? This should be a non news.

Precisely, the Bulls shitty management (and owner) has allowed their key players to leave via FA/traded them away to save space for years now, it's not the first time. I'd be piss too if I was Derrick Rose, having to carry the team and city on his back every night, then gets bashed to hell when he's injured, even to the point where his character comes into question are you kidding me?

At this moment, John Paxson and Gar Forman are trying to win an NBA championship more in spite of Derrick Rose than because of him.

This "Columnist" is obviously intellectually dysfunctional

[erudain]

Well, at least a friend brought Ice Cream...made the late game pass quickly and bearable to watch.....so what about tonight?...might as well get lots of beer.

I think the let down from Rose injury still bleeds, last year they knew what to expect, this season got them off-guard. No matter what they say, no mattter what the press says...it quite obvious after watching games this past 2 weeks they haven't been able to shake it off and it shows on the floor.

That said, they have to come to terms with it and solve it. Any players that thinks about "I have nothing to play for this season" is an idiot.
Management can do all in their grasp to tank, like trading key players, that's their call...but players not playing hard & focused on their own? that would be stupid for their own careers...Deng will be a FA most likely, who's gonna give you that big contract if you don't produce? Boozer will be amnestied...who will take him if he tanks this season?

Erudain

[Andrew]

“Rose has told several confidantes that he is worried that the Bulls will start to let the team hit the skids by allowing key players to leave via free agency, forcing him to go through a rebuilding program he wants no part of.
‘Derrick is worried that the Bulls are going to lose what they have,’ said a league source. ‘He doesn’t want to go through rebuilding.’”

Are you kidding me? This should be a non news.

Precisely, the Bulls shitty management (and owner) has allowed their key players to leave via FA/traded them away to save space for years now, it's not the first time. I'd be piss too if I was Derrick Rose, having to carry the team and city on his back every night, then gets bashed to hell when he's injured, even to the point where his character comes into question are you kidding me?

At this moment, John Paxson and Gar Forman are trying to win an NBA championship more in spite of Derrick Rose than because of him.

This "Columnist" is obviously intellectually dysfunctional

I guess you always need to find something to write about and being provocative always gets attention (and thus hits). I'd like to think that he's wide of the mark here, taking hearsay, making some assumptions and running with it.

[Moz]

That article's title should've been Bernstein: "Why the fuck I don't have Rose's money?" laughable.... the last rebuilding phase that the Bulls been into brought in Boozer and the "bench mob" do you reckon Rose is not OK with that kind of setup? I'm beginning to believe that all this fuss came from the mouth of Derrick's brother who seems to be saying almost the same thing last year and not from Derrick himself...

[erudain]

So a couple thoughts after last night game:

- D.J is making sure Teague never sees the floor again when capt Kirk is back, not that Teague needs any help, he can show it on his own. Teague didn’t shoot a 3 even if his defender was shopping in Memphis
- Jo was our main offense last night....that can't end right.
- You can make a 2nd court official size with rims, bench, and everything in the gaps Carlos leaves behind the pick & roll on D.
- I seriously thought our genious medical staff would take Jimmy to the locker, take his shoe off, watch how his ankle inflamated, and send him back "cleared to play"
- One team shoots 60% for 3s..the other 27%.
- Tony has been great but he's no where near ready to defend a guy like KD
- Even Thibs has toned it down....he's not shouting near half what he used to
- That number 35 guy sure can play, how come I never heard of him before?...
- UC will change the promo “free big macs when they score 100”

quote of the game: "This is turribull"

Is nice seeing how Thabo improved, says lots about the GMs, we didn't want to pay to keep Thabo, we didn't want to pay to keep Kirk, we didn't want to pay to keep Noce, we didn’t want to keep Marco...anyone sees a trend here?

Erudain

[_Steve_]

Last game showed that The Bulls are very far away from the playoffs right now.
Bad news that Deng will sit some games because of his achilles tendon.
Even worse that Boozer - who started really good into the season - seems to be on a huge downslide. That should put an end to all serious and significant rumors about trades involving him.

[erudain]

Anyone saw this?
http://blogs.bulls.com/2013/12/bulls-ca ... mment=true

Apparently Thabo went to the Bulls locker room to chat with some of his old teammates.
After that he invited Jo over to the Thunder locker room, when both were coming it, he was stopped by Perkins.

Perkins: “They just let anybody in the locker room?”
Noah: “C’mon man.”
Perkins: “I’m just asking, though.”
Noah: “C’mon man.”
Perkins: “Just let anybody in the locker room now?”
Noah: “You want me to wait outside?”
Perkins: “I’m just saying, though.”
Noah: “If you want me to wait outside, I’ll wait outside.”
Perkins: “Get your ass up outta here.”
Noah: “Aight.”

First, I'm amazed Perkins even knows how to speak, 2nd If I were Noah I'd have told him "well, they just let anybody in the NBA?"

[shadowgrin]

I used to doubt Sam Smith's stories but when I remembered that he knew Dwight Howard was an entitled bitch even before most of the world knew I guess his stories are reliable.

[erudain]

and one day Bulls won again...must be a saturnalia miracle

[air gordon]

I'm guessing you're talking about making some major moves and not intentionally losing games, since the latter isn't on the level and would likely see them be stripped of the pick. In that case, who goes and who stays?

as long as players remain injured, there may be no need to tank. i don't see any reason for players like noah, deng, hinrich to try play through injury.

maybe this is influenced by Thibbs and Rose....i think management believes this core has a chance to compete for a title next year. i don't necessarily agree with it but i can see a scenario where Deng resigns for less then his market value, boozer is amnestied, mirotic comes over. the 1 million $ question is does deng sign for less???

or trade deng, amesty boozer, get some draft picks, spare parts. does this core make you smile?
Rose
Snell
Butler
Gibson/Mirotic
Noah
+draft picks

that is a lot offense to replace. can mirotic/butler/and draft pick fill in the gaps???

[Andrew]

It'll be a tough sell to get him to re-sign for less, but I guess I couldn't rule it out entirely. I can see another team overpaying for him and prying him away, though.

And yeah, that lineup isn't going to be a joy to watch at the offensive end.

[erudain]

Is last season all over again, serious lack of consistency.
You play great ball one night with excellent ball movement, lots of assists, nice looks, decent D….and then you go to the next game and you forget everything you just did and you lose badly.

2-15 from 3s is bad.

What an ugly and horrible refs crew that was…for both teams…Ts all over, fast 3secs calls, cutting the flow of the game for both team.
Luckily (for us) they missed a lot of FTs and the T they called on Dunleavy was his wake up call.

Lol Noah wanted that triple-double….he was frustrated in the last couple minutes of the game

[Andrew]

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Meanwhile, in classic Bulls front office style:

Adrian Wojnarowski reported in October that Adams was not brought back because of a contentious relationship he shared with Bulls general manager Gar Forman, who didn’t like assistant coach carping about personnel moves that cost Chicago Kyle Korver and C.J. Watson (while bringing in Kirk Hinrich on a much-criticized contract) over the 2012 offseason. Adams didn’t exactly confirm all of this while talking to the Chicago Tribune’s K.C. Johnson recently, but he did confirm at least one carp in the rare instance of an assistant coach going on record with the media.

"It's still a bit mystifying to me," Adams said. "And I don't understand it. And if the intent was to be hurtful to me and my family, it succeeded."

[…]

The Tribune reported in June that Forman took exception to Adams voicing displeasure over certain personnel moves. Adams confirmed this, saying he was told he "made a disparaging remark about the organization outside the walls of the Berto Center."

Granted, that situation is in the past now and both sides have moved on, but the dysfunction is disheartening.

[werewolf914]

Deng for Bynum + 2 2nd-round + 1 1st-round from Kings
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1911 ... -luol-deng

Luol Deng rejected a 3 year, $30 million extension with Bulls last week, league source tells Yahoo. Turned out to be prelude to trade.

For me, it's not too bad since Deng will walked away at season end. Just hope we'll draft wisely.

The Cleveland Cavaliers have acquired All-Star forward Luol Deng from the Chicago Bulls in exchange for center Andrew Bynum, three future draft picks and the right to swap 2015 first round picks with the Cavs (1-14 protected)

[Moz]

There you go... Boozer is next in line... then the management will have a tug of war game with Mirotic's euroleague team... it would've been nice though if they got Waiters instead of Bynum...

[Andrew]

With Deng turning down that extension, moving him before they lost him for nothing was a wise move. However, I'm unimpressed with the deal. It wouldn't be so bad if the picks weren't protected, but as it stands, there's a good chance the only worthwhile thing they'll get out of the deal is cap relief...which is what they would've received if they'd just let him walk at the season's end. It feels like they could've got a better deal than this.