NBA and Euroleague sign deal for 'NBA Europe Live'

[Matt]

lol@Pero and that Burger King jersey, lol so fitting

just because a guy is great in his own league doesnt mean he's gonna be good in the NBA. Andrew Gaze for one is an australian bball legend and he did jack shit with SAS. AC Green is an NBA bum and he came to the NBL and was abusing players like Michael Jackson was children.

[shachaf]

If you still belive that the players who are playing in the NBA aren't less than a gods, It will be stupid fo me to argue with you.
You have seen Parker 5 times and you decided that he is good just for a back up in the NBA.
Also about Jasikevicus, that isn't so far from steve nash and jason kidd at his passing skils...

[Jackal]

I'll believe it when I see it. (Don't you dare give me a link to some video.)

[shachaf]

A video will help you, but the fact is that i hope you wouldn't se him.
Jasikevicus is now making a decision if to go to the NBA or to stay in maccabi tel aviv(10 diffrent NBA teams are intrersted at him)
If he will stay, you can always watch NBA TV on thursday and see him playing.

[Jackal]

A video won't help, given he's playing against inferiour people, just because he's a star there, doesn't mean he'll be a star in the NBA. Stop being so hard headed.

As I said, I'll believe it when I see it.

[shachaf]

I will say it again- the nba isn't a leauge for gods.
The game in europe is really much diffrent( like somebody said here)- the defanse are stronger in a lot of teams than in the NBA. San Antonio and Detroit is the only teams in the NBA who play D. I think that even a european team could score more than 100 points aginst the funny defanse of Phoenix or Dalls.
The game is much more organised, also apart of SA and Detroit.

[mhood7]

I have seen Parker play many more times than 5 games. And I still say he is not starter material in the NBA. That is just my opinion. Yes the NBA is the league for gods as far as basketball goes. That is why the best in Europe are coming over here. Jasekevicius is a great point guard. Probably as good as Nash, but nowhere near Kidd. Kidd is the best point guard in basketball today, even if Nash was MVP. The game is a great deal different in Europe. It is more of a team concept. Which I think is good. The NBA is not as strong as it was in the 80's and 90's even though the talent level is much higher. THis has to do with poor team play and young guys being given too many minutes and too much freedom on the court. It is about entertainment first. However, games are much much more physical over here, and again the court dimensions play a huge role. Put Euro guys on a NBA court and their numbers would drop the same way NBA numbers drop on an FIBA court. THe trapezoid lane is a disadvantage to American bigs and the shorter 3 pt line is actually a disadvantage because only Rip Hamilton and Dwayne Wade shoot 20 foot jumpers in the NBA, the rest of teh guards are shooting 25 foot 3s or dunking.

Just my 2 cents

[NNpF]

These games should be interesting.

I would like to see some of the elite teams of the NBA play the elite teams in Europe.

And to who ever said there will be European teams playing in the NBA soon, I think it would be a little rough for a team to travel to Europe and then back to the United States/Canada for a home and home series.

[shachaf]

I have seen Parker play many more times than 5 games. And I still say he is not starter material in the NBA. That is just my opinion. Yes the NBA is the league for gods as far as basketball goes. That is why the best in Europe are coming over here. Jasekevicius is a great point guard. Probably as good as Nash, but nowhere near Kidd. Kidd is the best point guard in basketball today, even if Nash was MVP. The game is a great deal different in Europe. It is more of a team concept. Which I think is good. The NBA is not as strong as it was in the 80's and 90's even though the talent level is much higher. THis has to do with poor team play and young guys being given too many minutes and too much freedom on the court. It is about entertainment first. However, games are much much more physical over here, and again the court dimensions play a huge role. Put Euro guys on a NBA court and their numbers would drop the same way NBA numbers drop on an FIBA court. THe trapezoid lane is a disadvantage to American bigs and the shorter 3 pt line is actually a disadvantage because only Rip Hamilton and Dwayne Wade shoot 20 foot jumpers in the NBA, the rest of teh guards are shooting 25 foot 3s or dunking.

Just my 2 cents

Parker can replace ginobili in SA. And i'm not looking at the numbers, but at the style of playing.I hope maccabi will play SA next summer that you can see it.About Jasikevicus,I agree with you, Kidd is the best playmaker of the world. But still,Jasikevicus passing skils are not far away from Nash, And he is certainly a better shooter. The game in the NBA is more physical, But still, A lot of teams don't play D.

[Matt]

please give me a break.....didnt some Euro star named Antoine Rigadue or somethong come to play for Dallas? and he got made look amateur on both ends of the court by Cuttino Mobley who abused him.

I will say it again- the nba isn't a leauge for gods.
The game in europe is really much diffrent( like somebody said here)- the defanse are stronger in a lot of teams than in the NBA. San Antonio and Detroit is the only teams in the NBA who play D. I think that even a european team could score more than 100 points aginst the funny defanse of Phoenix or Dalls.
The game is much more organised, also apart of SA and Detroit.

The defense in Euro stronger than NBA? Not by a long shot. Perhaps as teams they are more cohesive but please, Euro's dont have the athletic wingmen to swipe the ball or the interior big men to swat shots like NBA teams do.

the fact is that Euro players are jump shooters with no inside game....i'd love to see them play against an NBA team like Phoenix or so with the NBA 3 point line. That'd be sweet. Amare would make any Euro 'big' man his bitch in the post dunking on them relentlessly. On the defensive end he and Marion would use their superior athleticism (the most athletic frontcourt in the NBA) to grab rebounds and then run the break against dudes that cant run for shit.

[shachaf]

please give me a break.....didnt some Euro star named Antoine Rigadue or somethong come to play for Dallas? and he got made look amateur on both ends of the court by Cuttino Mobley who abused him.

I will say it again- the nba isn't a leauge for gods.
The game in europe is really much diffrent( like somebody said here)- the defanse are stronger in a lot of teams than in the NBA. San Antonio and Detroit is the only teams in the NBA who play D. I think that even a european team could score more than 100 points aginst the funny defanse of Phoenix or Dalls.
The game is much more organised, also apart of SA and Detroit.

The defense in Euro stronger than NBA? Not by a long shot. Perhaps as teams they are more cohesive but please, Euro's dont have the athletic wingmen to swipe the ball or the interior big men to swat shots like NBA teams do.

the fact is that Euro players are jump shooters with no inside game....i'd love to see them play against an NBA team like Phoenix or so with the NBA 3 point line. That'd be sweet. Amare would make any Euro 'big' man his bitch in the post dunking on them relentlessly. On the defensive end he and Marion would use their superior athleticism (the most athletic frontcourt in the NBA) to grab rebounds and then run the break against dudes that cant run for shit.

Europe don't have athlethic player? Very funny. Where do you think Andry Kirilenko come from? Australia?
In europe, most of the teams play zone at D. In NBA we don't see' because to play a zone you need a team effort, that apart of Detroit and San Antonio isn't exsist on NBA, Because like in NBA LIVE 06, NBA is based on superstars. And for parker, it's really fonny to compare a roll player like Antoine Rigadue to him.

[J@3]

Are you done yet? This is getting really tedious.

[mhood7]

Rigadue or however you spell his name was a star in Europe, just as much as Parker is, the difference is that he was a European and Parker is an American. He just came to the US at the end of his career much like Sabonis did. There is absolutely no way that Parker could replace Ginobili. I certainly do hope that SA and Maccabi play, it would be a great testament to how much better the best team units in the NBA are than Euroleague's best team. On an NBA court with NBA refs, no team in Europe could compete with any team in the NBA. On an international court with international refs, there are US college teams that could beat NBA teams with the exception of about half the league. Certainly professional teams in Europe could compete with NBA teams on an international court with international rules (ie 2004 Olympics). With the kind of chances and money that NBA GM's take on unproven European teenagers, I think if Parker was as good as you think he is, he would have been offered major money over here.

[EZJ]

Anthony Parker would definitly suck in NBA. Look at Kasun, in Europe he was amazing, in the USA hes not.


mhood7 asked for an Rest Of the World All Star Team so here it is:


Center: Yao Ming, Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Power Forward: Dirk Nowitzki, Pau Gasol
Small Forward: Andrei Kirilenko, Peja Stojakovic
Shooting Guard: Manu Ginobili, Hidayet Türkoglu
Point Guard: Steve Nash, Tony Parker


Only NBA Players, but they still would lose!

[Matt]

Europe don't have athlethic player? Very funny. Where do you think Andry Kirilenko come from? Australia?

ok you mention one player....who else? Stojakovic? No. Dirk? No. Gasol? No.

the best from Europe in the NBA aren't even athletic, they are shooters. What use is Peja when he cant shoot...check playoffs none....Dirk? He got shutdown completely by a shooting guard, that's all he contributed.

While i'm at it zone defense is for pussies, it's for useless defenders, if you cant play 1-on-1 D on a guy then you should be a waterboy or @home being a housewife.

[shachaf]

Parker is much more athlethic than Manou. It's suprising me that if if you tell us you have seen him, you don't know that. Manou also shoot a tree pointers in a set shoot. Parker has an amazing jump shoot, and if you have seen him you should know it to.I think also that Ginobili is a better defender, but that wouldn't disturb if he was replacing Manou.
Compare Rigadue to Antohony Parker is funny. It's like compering kobe bryant to Quentin Richardson. Rigadue was a star in europe, but he was a great shooter and that's it. Parker does everyting on court: He scores, he passes, he rebounds and more...
Parker also was called '' The Jordan of europe'' that you can see how stupid is to compare him to Rigadue

[Matt]

wow, the Jordan of Europe.....wait, wasn't Harold Miner also the Jordan of College ball? that turned out well for him.

Parker does everyting on court: He scores, he passes, he rebounds and more...

congratulations to him....he comes into the NBA and he'll get abused on both ends of the court, his passes will look amateur and his rebounds will effectively be eliminated.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

While i'm at it zone defense is for pussies, it's for useless defenders, if you cant play 1-on-1 D on a guy then you should be a waterboy or @home being a housewife.

I just hate this American mentality... one-on-one and let the best man win... Being fearful of adapting to something different is what truly makes a man a pussy...

[shachaf]

The level of the NBA isn't so high now. When evey team in the NBA pick a 18- years old from europe just because he is 2.20, Parker has defenately place in the NBA as starter. Also, you talking abouth Parker and you haven't seen him once. You think that to be a star in europe
is a very simple, but it's not.

[shachaf]

While i'm at it zone defense is for pussies, it's for useless defenders, if you cant play 1-on-1 D on a guy then you should be a waterboy or @home being a housewife.

I just hate this American mentality... one-on-one and let the best man win... Being fearful of adapting to something different is what truly makes a man a pussy...

And it's a stupid mentality. You can't stop players like Iverson and Wade in a Men-To-Men defanse. you can bring reduce their precentages, But not more than that. There are good guards like Bowen and Big Ben, But they are rare when every child dreaming about dunk like Kobe or LeBron.

Another stupid thing in this mentality is that in the NBA they don'wt stop fast breaks with a fouls. For some of you it would be considered ugly, But I think it's a legitimate way to prevent easy points.

[Riot]

No, zone defenses suck because teams get easy offensive rebound chances.

Teams in the NBA like to play man to man defense so every guy is accountable for one man. It makes it easier to help on the boards and to box out. It also helps because when you play zone it's deal to crowd on side of the zone and then get beat on your rotations when the offense swings the ball around the perimeter from strongside to weak side.

If you attack the zone and have good ball movement you'll get an easy jumper everytime. That's why they don't use here in the NBA, because the offense will just abuse them.

Also, just because he "dominates European basketball" doesn't mean he'll dominate American basketball. There are two different styles and two different kind of players. American basketball has better athletes, and that's a fact. However, European basketball is more of a team-orienated (spell?) game. You can have your preferences as to which one you like but you can't say this guy in this league would come into this other league and dominate.

The NBA is the ultimate league for basketball in the world. It's where the best of the best go to compete. It's fair to say that Parker would struggle coming over and playing with more talented and more athletic players. Who knows how good he'll turn out? But at the beginning he'd struggle and if he isn't coached right or put in the right situtation he could disapear. It's all about timing and patience if you come over to the NBA from a different country.

But in my opinion, I think Parker would fold like a mofo.

[#12]

please give me a break.....didnt some Euro star named Antoine Rigadue or somethong come to play for Dallas? and he got made look amateur on both ends of the court by Cuttino Mobley who abused him.

I will say it again- the nba isn't a leauge for gods.
The game in europe is really much diffrent( like somebody said here)- the defanse are stronger in a lot of teams than in the NBA. San Antonio and Detroit is the only teams in the NBA who play D. I think that even a european team could score more than 100 points aginst the funny defanse of Phoenix or Dalls.
The game is much more organised, also apart of SA and Detroit.

The defense in Euro stronger than NBA? Not by a long shot. Perhaps as teams they are more cohesive but please, Euro's dont have the athletic wingmen to swipe the ball or the interior big men to swat shots like NBA teams do.

the fact is that Euro players are jump shooters with no inside game....i'd love to see them play against an NBA team like Phoenix or so with the NBA 3 point line. That'd be sweet. Amare would make any Euro 'big' man his bitch in the post dunking on them relentlessly. On the defensive end he and Marion would use their superior athleticism (the most athletic frontcourt in the NBA) to grab rebounds and then run the break against dudes that cant run for shit.

Europe don't have athlethic player? Very funny. Where do you think Andry Kirilenko come from? Australia?
In europe, most of the teams play zone at D. In NBA we don't see' because to play a zone you need a team effort, that apart of Detroit and San Antonio isn't exsist on NBA, Because like in NBA LIVE 06, NBA is based on superstars. And for parker, it's really fonny to compare a roll player like Antoine Rigadue to him.

Kirilenko is from russia

[Matt]

I just hate this American mentality... one-on-one and let the best man win... Being fearful of adapting to something different is what truly makes a man a pussy...

i'm not American....I'm European incidentally

and i still stand that zones are shit to play for more than 5mins

You can't stop players like Iverson and Wade in a Men-To-Men defanse

but you can make them work harder for their points. Like Riot said, in a zone you just pass the ball around and you'll get a good shot, in man to man there is always someone in your face unless you manage to shake free. I'd like to see someone play a zone against Seattle for a game.

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

i'm not American....I'm European incidentally

Oh, I know that... (incidentally) ... But the mentality is American and that's the issue...

Teams in the NBA like to play man to man defense so every guy is accountable for one man. It makes it easier to help on the boards and to box out. It also helps because when you play zone it's deal to crowd on side of the zone and then get beat on your rotations when the offense swings the ball around the perimeter from strongside to weak side.

So not playing zonal defense because it's harder to implement is the manly choice, me guesses.... Have you played basketball? If so , you would have been taught that playing man to man amounts to footwork, keeping in touch with your guy, and the most difficult part is adapting to marking switches that occur mostly after screens and pick-and-rolls... Try learning how to play zonal defense and cover space insteadd of man, and you'll see how 'easy' it is... It takes a smart and adaptable athlete, capable of making quick decisions, to effectively play zonal defense... But quick thinkink and adaptability are not exactly American trademarks...

[The X]

zone defense is easiest defense to learn as far as junior grades go....from my experience, it's an easy way to take a team that lacks a lot of individual skill and turn it inot a solid defensive team....although you cannot rely solely on the zone, as some teams will have offenses in place to counteract zones....main problem with zone is on defensive boards, but that is due to the fact that the players in the zone don't effectively pick up a body of an opponent who is in their area and box out....